"The 33"-Road Bike Racing - Optygen Users

I was thinking of giving Optygen a shot and was wondering how others incorporate it into their training. Is it a case of loading and maintaining during heavy training or do you take it all year round?

Optygen is completely and utterly useless/worthless.

Optygen is completely and utterly useless/worthless.

perhaps but that still doesn't answer my question.

perhaps but that still doesn't answer my question.

yes it does. Don't bother.

We did this already

http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=264049

We did this already

http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=264049

no....we went through the whole 'its great/it's sh*t' debate with that thread....i'm asking a specific question in regards to training and usage

yes it does. Don't bother.

call me stubborn......but i'd like to test the stuff out for myself.......then i'm going to try some dimpled wheels to see if i make it onto the fairway

call me stubborn......but i'd like to test the stuff out for myself.......then i'm going to try some dimpled wheels to see if i make it onto the fairway

answered your own question

Makes...me...fart...

...well, more than usual....:D

call me stubborn......but i'd like to test the stuff out for myself.......then i'm going to try some dimpled wheels to see if i make it onto the fairway

OK, waste your money. To actually answer your question, then, use it however you want. It won't work either way.

Pcad falls into the Optygen abuser category. I break the capsules and snort the contents.

Don't bother using it during training- take 1.5 to 2x the preload dosage during the loading phase.

Do it before events.

following the labels works pretty well... another rider I know takes the pure form- cordiceps (much cheaper) and essentially the same effect. EVEN IF IT DOESN'T WORK, the placebo effect is still efficient.

to answer your question-- you could try the instructions (loading then maintenance) but up the dosage to 2x the loading on RACE DAY. try out out-- it worked for me, I could last a bit longer on the climbs without feeling it

Didn't do dick for Pcad today. That is all.

How long before it ends up on the banned list?


:beer:

following the labels works pretty well... another rider I know takes the pure form- cordiceps (much cheaper) and essentially the same effect. EVEN IF IT DOESN'T WORK, the placebo effect is still efficient.

did you get that name right? cordiceps didn't turn up anything in my searches

did you get that name right? cordiceps didn't turn up anything in my searches

It's a fungus that attacks insect species. The spores invade their brain, force them to climb to a good spot for maximum environmental spread of more spores, then it kills them and a fungus stalk sprouts out of the head of the insect.

Real gourmet stuff.

http://ocid.nacse.org/research/cordyceps/assests/coraus_corcur.jpg

wiki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cordyceps)

video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3t4v8PmY_Q)

Hi,
I have tried cordyceps. It appears to reduce inflammation in the lungs. Not as well as my asthma inhaler, but well enough that I use it from time to time. You should be able to find it in your local
health food store.

I think anyone that likes it a lot should get their lungs checked.

At the end of the cycling day, sometimes you have the snot, and sometimes you do not.

That is all.

It's a fungus that attacks insect species. The spores invade their brain, force them to climb to a good spot for maximum environmental spread of more spores, then it kills them and a fungus stalk sprouts out of the head of the insect.

Anything that grows inside insect brains is good enough for me.

if you want to go down that path of what is in our diets, most of us would stop eating anything processed BUT that is just too much work!

Back to the point, its spelled CORDICEPS on optygen but is more commonly spelled as CORDYCEPS (with a Y)-- so try both searches.

Anything that grows inside insect brains is good enough for me.

Just so long as it doesn't develop a taste for human tissue.


At the end of the cycling day, sometimes you have the snot, and sometimes you do not.

That is all.

And sometimes you still have your $49.95 left in the bank.

You will do better spending the 50 bucks toward a coach.

You will do better spending the 50 bucks toward a coach.



Better yet save it for 8 months and buy a used Powertap!

This is the epitome of a BF thread. Question asked, opinions that dont answer the question abound, then off on a tangent until someone recommends getting a power tap.

That's why I keep logging in.:D

Glad I could complete the cycle.

:)

opinions that dont answer the question abound, then off on a tangent until someone recommends getting a power tap.


You'll never hear Pcad recommend the Power Tap, I'd need an MIT undergrad degree to figure out how to download the data onto a laptop. That's why the dudes who use them have user names like 'Doctor' W. Also stop pissing on baseless opinions and tangents. Without those BF would cease to exist.

I'd need an MIT undergrad degree to figure out how to download the data onto a laptop.

I believe your mistake was attempting to use a Mac for something useful.

I believe your mistake was attempting to use a Mac for something useful.

I generally use it for checking the price of Apple stock which has more than doubled since I purchased our shares in February. I did get a load of a late model Dell running Windows Vista recently. After my MacBook Pro running Leopard, it was like hopping in a 1973 Gremlin after driving a 2007 Porsche.

Check with me in January after Apple announces its quarterly results for the last three months of 2007 and we can discuss which Porsche I'll be purchasing. Only kidding. I'll be sticking with the Apple stock. In the meantime let's hope Mr. Jobs' Gulfstream doesn't pancake into a mountain.

<3 Macs. I've never had any problems downloading Power data onto mine.

<3 Macs. I've never had any problems downloading Power data onto mine.

How do you do that? Are you running Windows on the Mac?

. After my MacBook Pro running Leopard, it was like hopping in a 1973 Gremlin after driving a 2007 Porsche.
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thread hijack - Leopard rocks (addicted to Spaces) but are you having issues with Time Machine bogging down the system? Might be my RAM, 2 gig on a dual 2.4 MacBook Pro....

thread hijack - Leopard rocks (addicted to Spaces) but are you having issues with Time Machine bogging down the system? Might be my RAM, 2 gig on a dual 2.4 MacBook Pro....

I can't figure out how spaces works. I am truly a computer idiot. God help me. I am also the Computer Tech for my company.

Too busy. Cycling and drafting (patent drafting, not wheel sucking) come first.

Spaces is really pretty easy - Preferences sets up how many Spaces you have (I use 4). Then F8 shows the spaces, and let's you drag windows to different Spaces. You can also set defaults-like Excel always opens in Space 2. What you end up with is something like 4 different monitors - so for example you can group all your communications in one (Entourage, Skype, IM), browsing in another and maybe work stuff in a third, etc. It's like having multiple virtual monitors...

Spaces is really pretty easy - Preferences sets up how many Spaces you have (I use 4). Then F8 shows the spaces, and let's you drag windows to different Spaces. You can also set defaults-like Excel always opens in Space 2. What you end up with is something like 4 different monitors - so for example you can group all your communications in one (Entourage, Skype, IM), browsing in another and maybe work stuff in a third, etc. It's like having multiple virtual monitors...

When there is a break in the Pcad Action I will give it a whirl.

thread hijack - Leopard rocks (addicted to Spaces) but are you having issues with Time Machine bogging down the system? Might be my RAM, 2 gig on a dual 2.4 MacBook Pro....

It might be Parallels, I removed it and the folders for it, in both libraries, from the list of backups (in time machine prefs), and it works great now!!

If you don't have parallels, then I dunno.

Leopard is so much faster!

Greg

I can't figure out how spaces works. I am truly a computer idiot. God help me. I am also the Computer Tech for my company.

Too busy. Cycling and drafting (patent drafting, not wheel sucking) come first.

what are you doing using CAD on a mac for anyway?

what are you doing using CAD on a mac for anyway?

Why would I use CAD to do patent drawings? That's like hiring a brain surgeon to remove a splinter. We use Adobe Illustrator. I may call my business Cotsis CAD, but that is no more misleading than calling Pcad a 'bicycle racer' on BF. I'm hoping it works out for us, we've been doing it on a trial basis now for 16 years.

The degree to which the Windows weenies still don't get Apple is astonishing, and it even extends to Wall Street, but that's great. It makes AAPL (the stock symbol for Apple Inc.) a combination Secure Blue Chip/Hi Tech Contrarian stock play. Up another $1.91 per share today by the way. In that spirit, please redirect your CAD comments to the rocket scientists @ NASA, who also like their Macs.

It might be Parallels, I removed it and the folders for it, in both libraries, from the list of backups (in time machine prefs), and it works great now!!

If you don't have parallels, then I dunno.

Leopard is so much faster!

Greg

Thanks, good tip. yes I am running parallels and I don't need it backed up. I'll give it a try...

Aaron

Why would I use CAD to do patent drawings? That's like hiring a brain surgeon to remove a splinter. We use Adobe Illustrator. I may call my business Cotsis CAD, but that is no more misleading than calling Pcad a 'bicycle racer' on BF. I'm hoping it works out for us, we've been doing it on a trial basis now for 16 years.


emm...yea i can't really answer that......i use Autocad for more or less everything.......maybe i'm the problem here. I bought my Apple just for the looks.

emm...yea i can't really answer that......i use Autocad for more or less everything.......maybe i'm the problem here. I bought my Apple just for the looks.

And who can blame you? Macs do look cool.

Isn't there some powerful AutoCAD compatible application for the Mac? And if not, why not try installing Windows XP on your Intel Mac to see how it runs? We do patent illustrations, I called my business 'CAD' just because it sounded cool, and my clients figure if you're doing drawings on a computer it must be computer aided drafting. And I suppose it is. All semantics in one sense, but what we do isn't 'drafting' as much as it is illustration. There is a real difference.

Our website:

www.cotsiscad.com

Up another $1.91 per share today by the way.

How much of that was attributable computers, and how much of that was due to pink covers for overpriced MP3 players?

Isn't there some powerful AutoCAD compatible application for the Mac?
I think VectorWorks is a pretty nice cross-plat CAD, if I remember.

How much of that was attributable computers, and how much of that was due to pink covers for overpriced MP3 players?

Not all of it....

Apple Inc.'s share of the U.S. personal computer market for the third calendar quarter of 2007 was 8.1 percent, up from 6.2 percent during the same period one year ago, according to preliminary results released from Gartner on Wednesday.

Yep. It's the computers stupid (I paraphrase a successful 1990's presidential campaign slogan). Same as it ever was really. Even when iPods and iPhones are rocking, where do you think that way cool hardware and particularly software mojo comes from? Uhhh, oh yeah from the Mac platform. Keep your eye on the levitating Mac market share. Even Microsoft may start paying attention to that. But let's hope they don't.

Buy Apple stock boys. It's still cheap (< $200 per share). Don't you wish you had loaded up on Google @ that price (closing in on $700 per share today)?

What does all this have to do with cycling? Everything. You gotta pay for all this stupid overpriced bike schwag somehow.

<3 Macs. I've never had any problems downloading Power data onto mine.
A Mac lover and a Longhorn. You are the devil. My gf and I won Zipp t-shirts last year and were disappointed to find they're closer to Texas orange than Tennessee orange. ;)

What's faster than a bike weenie with an Intel Mac and Zipp 404's?

Dr. W., Cypress, Nomad VW and KP, but that's about it. OK, maybe botto without a bad hangover. But that's like finding a Republican without a major delusion.

A Mac lover and a Longhorn. You are the devil. My gf and I won Zipp t-shirts last year and were disappointed to find they're closer to Texas orange than Tennessee orange. ;)

You'll live ;). After all, it's all jealousy, since Texas > Tennessee, and Mac > PC's, right?

Texas is bigger n' France, anyway.