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How could this happen? A while ago my neighbor told me he hit someone on a bike. He told me he braked but couldn't stop in time, he hit the cyclist who went up onto his hood but held onto the hood until the car stopped. He said the cyclist wasn't hurt but the bike was destroyed and he bought him a new bike.
I've been wondering about the accident for a while, so I asked him how it happened. He said, "I moved here, he moved there, and I hit him". His explanation was clipped and cold so I didn't ask him anymore about it. So he basically he moved to the right and then the cyclist moved to the left right in front of him, he braked but still hit him. How is it that he hit cyclist from behind but the cyclist ended up on the hood? Second, I still can't understand how there were no injuries.
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How could this happen? A while ago my neighbor told me he hit someone on a bike. He told me he braked but couldn't stop in time, he hit the cyclist who went up onto his hood but held onto the hood until the car stopped. He said the cyclist wasn't hurt but the bike was destroyed and he bought him a new bike.
I've been wondering about the accident for a while, so I asked him how it happened. He said, "I moved here, he moved there, and I hit him". His explanation was clipped and cold so I didn't ask him anymore about it. So he basically he moved to the right and then the cyclist moved to the left right in front of him, he braked but still hit him. How is it that he hit cyclist from behind but the cyclist ended up on the hood? Second, I still can't understand how there were no injuries.
Why are you asking this forum? How the heck would anyone here know? Oh, I Know! Lack of any info won't stop several posters from blaming the "cager's" bad driving, and several others from blaming the cyclist's faulty technique. And somehow bike lanes are to blame!!
Why are you asking this forum? How the heck would anyone here know? Oh, I Know! Lack of any info won't stop several posters from blaming the "cager's" bad driving, and several others from blaming the cyclist's faulty technique. And somehow bike lanes are to blame!!
:roflmao::roflmao::roflmao:
Dude, you have over 8,000 posts, I'm surprised you don't have an answer. With 8,000 posts your an avid cyclist, as an avid cyclist I am sure you've been run over and lived to talk about it:):):)
Given the minimal description, it seems a "dart-out" variant. Normally dart out is from a parking space or side street. Variant when two drivers head for the same vacant lane and either hit side to side or the faster vehicle from behind hits the slower moving in from the right. US conventions on road side. Reverse for UK.
With a bicycle, can suddenly be moving left around a parked car, moving out of a bike lane into the mixed lane for turning or whatever. Can be a no fault thing - cyclist looks, then moves, motorist looks and moves, both at the same time. Empty lane becomes too full in an instant.
Up on the hood is pretty safe. I did that as a pedestrian with a roll-through stopper. Jumped right as the car got a couple of feet away and rolled onto the hood. Didn't even get bruised, although the car did. After I stomped it. Much better than going under. I'm ready to jump a bike up and lean into a car when I'm city riding. Can bounce off the hood and then to the ground, gives a couple of seconds for the car to slow, less chance of going under the wheels, and even the cell phone drivers in the vicinity have a bit more time to react to the accident.
Having been on a hood and under wheels, I'll pick the hood any day!
It was the cager's bad driving.
Dude, you have over 8,000 posts, I'm surprised you don't have an answer. With 8,000 posts your an avid cyclist, as an avid cyclist I am sure you've been run over and lived to talk about it:):):)
You ARE confused. 8000 posts does not make any poster an avid anything but an avid poster, certainly not an answer man for dingy questions. Here is an idea to end your confusion on this topic, why don't you go back and direct your question to the motoristwho was there, and then get in touch with the bicyclist for his side of the story?
You ARE confused. 8000 posts does not make any poster an avid anything but an avid poster, certainly not an answer man for dingy questions. Here is an idea to end your confusion on this topic, why don't you go back and direct your question to the motoristwho was there, and then get in touch with the bicyclist for his side of the story?
Why don't you put your head back in your ass where it belongs.
OFF TOPIC :
Sorry ILTB has hit me up with this stuff before too,
but he is a necassary 'evil' :D
Im sure this thread will go into 3 pages of ponderous
conjecturing and hypothetical situationing. His posts
might seem harsh now, but will make much more sense later.
A small dose of realism in 100,000 words of..........nothing.
:beer:
Why don't you put your head back in your ass where it belongs.
'Cause he couldn't use it, then, to give the only appropriate answer to the OP's question. Why y' pickin' on 'im, anyway.
The OP asks a question to which there are none but rhetorical answers, ILTB points that out, OP comes back with "dude" type disrespectful answer, and you pile on with obscenity. I don't quite get it.
ILTB's reply is right on. How is advocacy and safety served by speculating on such a question? The OP sounds quite suspicious of the motorist who, by the OP's account, sounds quite embarrassed and unwilling to discuss the answer to the OP's question.
If the motorist and cyclist have settled it, who cares at this point how the accident happened. If the motorist and cyclist aren't telling, then, all the snobbish, disrespectful speculating by all the self-proclaimed experts in the world isn't going to shed any new light on the subject.
I, too, wonder why the OP posted the question.
So, why don't you put some mittens over those disrespectful "finners" of yours. Some of us find your post much more offending to the atmosphere of this forum than that by ILTB.
Caruso
How could this happen? A while ago my neighbor told me he hit someone on a bike. He told me he braked but couldn't stop in time, he hit the cyclist who went up onto his hood but held onto the hood until the car stopped. He said the cyclist wasn't hurt but the bike was destroyed and he bought him a new bike.
I've been wondering about the accident for a while, so I asked him how it happened. He said, "I moved here, he moved there, and I hit him". His explanation was clipped and cold so I didn't ask him anymore about it. So he basically he moved to the right and then the cyclist moved to the left right in front of him, he braked but still hit him. How is it that he hit cyclist from behind but the cyclist ended up on the hood? Second, I still can't understand how there were no injuries.
It's entirely possible that your neighbor isn't telling you the whole story. He knows you ride, right? If he had done something negligent or otherwise stupid, he might be embarassed to tell you.
Why are you asking this forum? How the heck would anyone here know? Oh, I Know! Lack of any info won't stop several posters from blaming the "cager's" bad driving, and several others from blaming the cyclist's faulty technique. And somehow bike lanes are to blame!!
And somewhere in the thread, we can always count on ILTB to join in with his diatribe.:rolleyes:
I have no idea but the biker may have been riding the wrong way. I dont know how they could have played that game any other way.
Dude, you have over 8,000 posts, I'm surprised you don't have an answer.
Naw. ILTB has one post, submitted over 8000 times so far.
How could this happen? A while ago my neighbor told me he hit someone on a bike. He told me he braked but couldn't stop in time...
Why are you asking this forum?
Because it's called, "BikeForums?"
Oh, that's right. You need a valid I.D. to post here, and a major credit card.
:rolleyes:
Please, like you or I are somehow special...
Conjecture; the cyclists was a wrong way cyclists and there was a little dance similar to what wrong side peds do on a MUP. You think they are staying out of your way so you start to speed up and then they change their mind and you have to brake hard.
And somewhere in the thread, we can always count on ILTB to join in with his diatribe.:rolleyes:
OK JackAss, help the confused fellow out, let's hear your ignorant explanation!
Because it's called, "BikeForums?"
Better it be posted on the crystal ball forum, but then again, this forum IS filled with cycling swamis who never let their own ignorance of the issue get in the way of their conjuring an "explanation." Might even satisfy the confused and/or gullible.
Better it be posted on the crystal ball forum, but then again, this forum IS filled with cycling swamis who never let their own ignorance of the issue get in the way of their conjuring an "explanation." Might even satisfy the confused and/or gullible.
I guess you know everything then, right?
I guess you know everything then, right?
I know a confused question that can't be intelligently answered given the lack of any details; which is obviously more than you, the confused OP, and the handful of dingy posters who will use the OP's bait as a catalyst for further pontification.
OK JackAss, help the confused fellow out, let's hear your ignorant explanation!Another fine example of how ILTB got to over 8,000 post.
Another fine example of how ILTB got to over 8,000 post.
Good "confused" response about the subject from a BF "Conventional Wisdom Man". Which of course means no answer at all. But sorta on topic since it demonstrates the poster's same "confusion" (i.e. childish whining) and problem with logical thought/argument as the original poster.
Good "confused" response about the subject from a BF "Conventional Wisdom Man". Which of course means no answer at all. But sorta on topic since it demonstrates the poster's same "confusion" (i.e. childish whining) and problem with logical thought/argument as the original poster.
And your *****-ass whining is helping how, exactly?
And your *****-ass whining is helping how, exactly?
Helps any reasonable reader to figure out which posters don't have a dang clue about rational thought. My concise spot-on analysis can be counted on to prompt the logic deprived posters such as yourself (and other BF hysterics) to float to the top of the bowl and reveal an inability to read and/or comprehend any idea that does not fit your preconceived notions of "correctness."
IMO seems my posts especially irk the confused slice of the Roadie/Vehicular Cyclist/Safety Nanny persuasions who demonstrate their intolerance to any divergent opinion (with posts such as your own and CB HI's) and get all apoplectic and self righteous in defense of their sacred cows/beliefs.
I'm getting the extreme impression, I-Like-To-Bike, that you hit a cyclist while driving and you were deemed at fault, maybe I'm wrong. In any case, you are a very unhappy person. God Bless
Only on the ASS forum can a newbie, in good faith, post a question that has no answer, because he really has no information that we can go on, yet, it sparks the immediate speculative "how many angels can dance on the head of a pin" argument and the inevitable flame wars.
25 posts and Helmet Head hasn't even chimed in! I predict 75+ posts.
To get back on topic...Clarks, I have fallen off of 2 Harley Davidsons on
separate occasions and didnt get hurt as much as when I fell off of
my Schwinn Traveler in 1985. Unless it has been filmed, the dynamics and
outcomes of crashes and falls really can only be theorized upon. There really
is no method for determining why stuff happens the way it does. Anything
here is speculation. My personal speculation is that this is a very uncomfortable
subject for your friend and he just doesnt want to discuss it further.
Ive crashed a lot of two-wheeled stuff in my life and the only thing that I know
with any absolute certainty about crashing is that when people say the cliche'
"I had to lay it down" , they are lying :)
It's simple physics. inertial energy is added to the bike by the car hitting it, at a point lower than the rider's center of gravity. The bicyclist comes off the bike and is transferred to the car hood. Think about the transfer of energy between billiard balls.
This thread, of course, is simply another personality test. Is life not filled with them?
Only on the ASS forum can a newbie, in good faith, post a question that has no answer, because he really has no information that we can go on...
25 posts and Helmet Head hasn't even chimed in! I predict 75+ posts.
The OP was posted "In good faith"? Ya think? Maybe. I'd say confused is the more accurate description. But no worse than the answers provided by the BF Safety Clairvoyants and BF Wise Men
I'm getting the extreme impression, I-Like-To-Bike, that you hit a cyclist while driving and you were deemed at fault, maybe I'm wrong. In any case, you are a very unhappy person. God Bless
Maybe you should ask the Bike Forum another question; this time, if the full moon, genetics or a chemical imbalance is the cause of your "extreme impressions."
Helps any reasonable reader to figure out which posters don't have a dang clue about rational thought. My concise spot-on analysis can be counted on to prompt the logic deprived posters such as yourself (and other BF hysterics) to float to the top of the bowl and reveal an inability to read and/or comprehend any idea that does not fit your preconceived notions of "correctness."
IMO seems my posts especially irk the confused slice of the Roadie/Vehicular Cyclist/Safety Nanny persuasions who demonstrate their intolerance to any divergent opinion (with posts such as your own and CB HI's) and get all apoplectic and self righteous in defense of their sacred cows/beliefs.
I've made no assumptions of who was at fault in this incident, and I agree that any responses are hypothetical in nature. However, what you fail to grasp is that whilst the responses may not tell us what did happen, they could provide an opening for intelligent discussion on how such accidents may occur, and what we as cyclists (and some of us as motorists, also) can do to help avoid being involved in such situations. You would seem to prefer whining about how we can't be sure what happened, and that this means we can't possibly learn anything from a discussion of the events.
Maybe if we just avoid discussing potential dangerous situations on the road and wish really, really hard, they'll just cease to exist, and we'll all be totally safe on the road :rolleyes:
This is the funniest topic ever! I'm laughing wine out my nose.
Here's what I think.
A while ago my neighbor told me he hit someone on a bike.
Dear Abby, a friend of mine has a nasty venereal disease...
How is it that he hit cyclist from behind but the cyclist ended up on the hood? Second, I still can't understand how there were no injuries.
..and I'm wondering how come my friend hasn't given this disease to her boyfriend...
Please.
I was hit while riding my Vespa square on the side. I had no injuries and landed on the hood of the vehicle. My Vespa was totaled. It happens. Next time, wear a condo..I mean, make sure it's safe before you proceed.
.....How is it that he hit cyclist from behind but the cyclist ended up on the hood?
Would it have made more sense to you had he ended up on the trunk instead?
ILTB You have become the exact mirror image of all that you despise, that is just sad.
However, what you fail to grasp is that whilst the responses may not tell us what did happen, they could provide an opening for intelligent discussion on how such accidents may occur, and what we as cyclists (and some of us as motorists, also) can do to help avoid being involved in such situations.
I grasp your concept about the utility of the OP and friends' "intelligent discussion" just fine. You still believe in the tooth fairy too? Maybe an equally "intelligent discussion" about her whereabouts and origins might help us understand the process of dental decay and how to avoid it.
To get back on topic...Clarks, I have fallen off of 2 Harley Davidsons on
separate occasions and didnt get hurt as much as when I fell off of
my Schwinn Traveler in 1985. Unless it has been filmed, the dynamics and
outcomes of crashes and falls really can only be theorized upon.
Very true. I crashed onto a sidewalk at 25mph earlier this year, and walked away with road rash and an injured shoulder that probably won't ever be 100% but works pretty well. Other people have the same crash and end up with a broken wrist, collarbone, and hip. Dumb luck, in my case.
Naw. ILTB has one post, submitted over 8000 times so far.lol
How could this happen? A while ago my neighbor told me he hit someone on a bike. He told me he braked but couldn't stop in time, he hit the cyclist who went up onto his hood but held onto the hood until the car stopped. He said the cyclist wasn't hurt but the bike was destroyed and he bought him a new bike.
I've been wondering about the accident for a while, so I asked him how it happened. He said, "I moved here, he moved there, and I hit him". His explanation was clipped and cold so I didn't ask him anymore about it. So he basically he moved to the right and then the cyclist moved to the left right in front of him, he braked but still hit him. How is it that he hit cyclist from behind but the cyclist ended up on the hood? Second, I still can't understand how there were no injuries.
Based on your statement that he hit the cyclist "from behind" and the "I moved and he moved" comment, it sounds to me like he was overtaking a cyclist going the same way as him, moved left to pass the cyclist, and the cyclist moved left too (or tried to turn left).
That's all speculation, but as to how the cyclist could end up on the hood and avoid injury, while his bike was totalled, that's completely plausible. A cyclist's centre of gravity is at least as high as a car hood, so even if hit from behind the cyclist might be thrown (backwards) onto the hood, but in theory could twist around and grab the edge of the windshield wiper compartment and hang on. The bike meanwhile would be run over. So in response to your question "how could this happen?", that's one scenario of how it could happen.
Why are you asking this forum? How the heck would anyone here know? Oh, I Know! Lack of any info won't stop several posters from blaming the "cager's" bad driving, and several others from blaming the cyclist's faulty technique. And somehow bike lanes are to blame!!
It's true. It's very common that someone asks a rather confused or naive question, and by the second or third post gets some stereotypical, knee jerk response that adds nothing but hostility to what might otherwise be a useful or interesting thread.
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