"The 33"-Road Bike Racing - If you could improve your cycling performance this much, you'd have something

Intel Mac running Adobe Illustrator CS 3 vs. G5 PowerMac running Illustrator CS2 Pcad test:

The identical 2.5mb Illustrator file, Select All, Rotate/Copy:

G5 PowerMac with CS2: 185 seconds

Intel Mac with CS 3 upgrade: 33 seconds

That's like Floyd cheating by using a one liter sport motorcycle. The most dramatic performance improvement I've ever witnessed going from one machine to the next generation, and I've been updating hardware/software for 16 years. I like it.

Sure it's foo, but what isn't?

Yeah, Adobe got to take advantage of a lot of Intel optimizations (that were already in place for the PC) when the Mac went Intel.

Don't underestimate the impact of the move to CS3...

any chance i can get a copy of that when i'm back in the US? :D

btw - pcaddy, i'm not joking.

any chance i can get a copy of that when i'm back in the US? :D

btw - pcaddy, i'm not joking.

Pirating software isn't particularly possible these days. You need a hacker friend. Pcad is a computer idiot. Which segways nicely with his bicycle imbecilia.

I don't understand the 'don't underestimate CS3' comment above. My original post highlights the mojo of CS3. Illustrator on Leopard on an Intel box is smokin'. As well it should be. I'm typing this on a dual 2Ghz G5 tower. As soon as Apple upgrades the towers I'm there. I'll probably get my main drafting dude his new iMac before the end of the year. Those are the last two non-Intel machines here. Then we'll be all Leopard/Intel/CS3 (Pshop and Illustrator).

It ain't cheap. Neither are Zipps (desparate attempt to link this to cycling).

Pirating software isn't particularly possible these days. You need a hacker friend. Pcad is a computer idiot. Which segways nicely with his bicycle imbecilia.

I don't understand the 'don't underestimate CS3' comment above. My original post highlights the mojo of CS3. Illustrator on Leopard on an Intel box is smokin'. As well it should be. I'm typing this on a dual 2Ghz G5 tower. As soon as Apple upgrades the towers I'm there. I'll probably get my main drafting dude his new iMac before the end of the year. Those are the last two non-Intel machines here. Then we'll be all Leopard/Intel/CS3 (Pshop and Illustrator).

It ain't cheap. Neither are Zipps (desparate attempt to link this to cycling).

no need to pirate. i'll bring my computer along to nyack. ;)

wanna throw a copy of cyclingpeaks in the mail for me while you're at it?

i'll dedicate my first win next season to you. promise.

You are all pathetic amateur bicycle racing paupers. I may be slow on a bicycle, but at least I'm not begging for pirated software on BF. Stop riding so much and focus on your careers. I do realize there are those here who first need to get careers. Pcad has structured his life so that career and cycling addiction do not conflict. And that is the most profound secret to Pcad Cycling Zen.

Sadly, cold toes continue to F with the Cycling Zen. Winter Sucks (that can not be overstated). It wasn't so bad this AM, but I sensed another segway into whining, so I jumped. Whenever the NY stations say 'It's 46º in Central Park this morning' it's never warmer than 32º here. It's consistently 10-15º colder on Fall/Winter/Spring mornings. This only really starts becoming problematic in Dec/Jan/Feb. But again, anything worth whining about warrants a post here.

stop your whining about your old mans circulation, or in other words HTFU.

who loves ya, you old weenie?

My "don't underestimate" statement was pointed at your crediting the hardware for the performance improvement. Granted, much of it is from hardware, but probably 40% of it is from software, through IPP libraries and version optimizations.

I don't pirate software either :beer:

Stop riding so much and focus on your careers.

Blasphemer!

My "don't underestimate" statement was pointed at your crediting the hardware for the performance improvement. Granted, much of it is from hardware, but probably 40% of it is from software, through IPP libraries and version optimizations.

I don't pirate software either :beer:

I think you're correct, it's about 50/50 software/hardware, but the net improvement is just astonishing to somebody who has spent 23 years on Macs and 16 years in the graphics Mac trenches. The machine I started my business with was a Mac IIci, and from there I've gone through Quadras and PowerMacs etc. ad nauseum. I've lost count of how many Macs I've owned, but we currently have four (plus my kid's Macbook). I started on Illustrator version 3, and now I think it's version 13. That performance boost is just staggering to me. I figured it would be 2-3x faster. But 600% faster?? Not only on the complex processor intensive move, but in redrawing this file it was like 'One Mississippi' on the Intel/CS3 iMac and 'One..Two...Three..Four..Five Mississipi' on the G5/CS2 tower. And the newer Macs we'll get in here in the next 90 days are faster still, particularly the tower that will sit under my desk.

I want to have one full bore tower in my office just in case we get a file that makes smoke come out of the iMac's ears. And we do occasionally get some of those. I suspect there will be a personal computer on my desk some day that I can't bring to its CPU knees with Illustrator or Pshop one of these days, but it's not here yet. These new Intel machines are a lot closer however. Very impressive. Very few of the projects we work on here will have us tapping out toes waiting for the machines going forward.

As recently as 5-8 years ago some of the processor intensive graphics moves that an Intel box with CS3 can accomplish in under 5 minutes would simply have crashed an older Mac. I've done it enough times to know. I've never sat down and figured out how much faster a state of the art current system is than my original IIci, but my guess is 1000x faster in some circumstances. And that is not hyperbole or exaggeration. I think that's accurate (or possibly an understatement). Back in 1991 the hard drives were 80 MEGabytes, not 500 GIGabytes. Obviously this same comparison applies to the Windows side. PCs just keep getting better. The machines I'm on now are so much better in every way than what I had 5+ years ago it's amazing.

Technology ROCKS. Right up until it kills you, then it sucks.

You are all pathetic amateur bicycle racing paupers. I may be slow on a bicycle, but at least I'm not begging for pirated software on BF. Stop riding so much and focus on your careers. I do realize there are those here who first need to get careers. Pcad has structured his life so that career and cycling addiction do not conflict. And that is the most profound secret to Pcad Cycling Zen.


guilty. one hundred bucks is a lot of money at the moment, so i'll use the free stuff until my career does get on track. i've sold all but two bikes to make rent, so cyclingpeaks is a future luxury at the moment. and i'll look forward to the first edition of Pcad Cycling Zen when it comes to print. ;)

edit - and as to the mac stuff, i've used macs exclusively my entire life (Apple II and up) and was lucky enough to work for apple for a couple years, so i'm inherently biased

>> i'll look forward to the first edition of Pcad Cycling Zen when it comes to print. <<

You can come to the book signing, I'll hold it out of the back of my car at some fleabag crit in PA.

>> i'll look forward to the first edition of Pcad Cycling Zen when it comes to print. <<

You can come to the book signing, I'll hold it out of the back of my car at some fleabag crit in PA.

would that be every crit in PA?

Pcad get a new Mac Pro; 8 core processing, 16 GB of ram, and a TB of storage.

Forget Zipps, that thing is a brand new car.

You are all pathetic amateur bicycle racing paupers. I may be slow on a bicycle, but at least I'm not begging for pirated software on BF. Stop riding so much and focus on your careers. I do realize there are those here who first need to get careers. Pcad has structured his life so that career and cycling addiction do not conflict. And that is the most profound secret to Pcad Cycling Zen.

Sadly, cold toes continue to F with the Cycling Zen. Winter Sucks (that can not be overstated). It wasn't so bad this AM, but I sensed another segway into whining, so I jumped. Whenever the NY stations say 'It's 46º in Central Park this morning' it's never warmer than 32º here. It's consistently 10-15º colder on Fall/Winter/Spring mornings. This only really starts becoming problematic in Dec/Jan/Feb. But again, anything worth whining about warrants a post here.

Dude, I work for a government entity. It's a way of life. What the heck, I've always liked Mark Twain.

Pcad get a new Mac Pro; 8 core processing, 16 GB of ram, and a TB of storage.



8 core is too pricey and is processing overkill for our needs. Plus Apple is on the verge of a new batch of towers. No later than MacWorld in January, hopefully sooner.

You are all pathetic amateur bicycle racing paupers. I may be slow on a bicycle, but at least I'm not begging for pirated software on BF. Stop riding so much and focus on your careers.


Meh. I just got a new laptop with CADD (well, it's in the mail) and GIS suites.

With your address, I could predict how you get to any local store, if and when a flood will sweep your riverside shanty away, determine where you should buy said shanty should you choose to relocate, and all sorts of other cool and trivial crap.

My job, FTW.

You are all pathetic amateur bicycle racing paupers. I may be slow on a bicycle, but at least I'm not begging for pirated software on BF. Stop riding so much and focus on your careers. I do realize there are those here who first need to get careers. Pcad has structured his life so that career and cycling addiction do not conflict. And that is the most profound secret to Pcad Cycling Zen.

Sadly, cold toes continue to F with the Cycling Zen. Winter Sucks (that can not be overstated). It wasn't so bad this AM, but I sensed another segway into whining, so I jumped. Whenever the NY stations say 'It's 46º in Central Park this morning' it's never warmer than 32º here. It's consistently 10-15º colder on Fall/Winter/Spring mornings. This only really starts becoming problematic in Dec/Jan/Feb. But again, anything worth whining about warrants a post here.

These are pretty warm so far.
http://www.performancebike.com/shop/profile.cfm?SKU=24344

Pcaddy has a hilltop shanty, FYI.

And by the way - it's MY job FTW. None of your jobs compare.

Beware PCaddy...crossing over to the Intel platform is a good thing, but check thy momentum lest ye be thrust into the dark and suicidal world of Windoze!

We are not in flood danger here. My deck is sliding down the shale cliff into the valley below however. At least it's happening very slowly. And that my little weenies, is a $50K cluster ****. But it will have to wait until after Pcadette graduates at the top of her class from NYU.

In summary, while I own a perfectly lovely house that may eventually fail to obtain a town C of O because of deck with bad footings, but I'll have awesome views when I tell the local building inspector to go F himself. Again, nothing $50K won't fix. Give that Apple stock another 18 months and we'll review this matter again.

Windows. DocRay will paint an American flag on his ass and streak the Canadian Parliament before I go over to the Dark Side.

P.S. The 17% grades that I climb every day to get back to my driveway for those killer view are wrecking my right knee. I'm buying a keg of Glucosomine/Chondroitin tabs next week.

Dude, I work for a government entity. It's a way of life.

Bureaucrats have it made. I did get a kick out of the Beetlejuice depiction of such jobs as an afterlife penance for bad deeds however. Kind of makes you wonder how that film went over at the local DMV.

Man, my old 1.33ghz G4 Powerbook is really showing its age.

Man, I could have bought a new Intel Laptop if I didn't buy those wheels...

All this talk about intel, made me look up the current stock price. It made me wish I held on to my stock options a bit longer, oh well.

Man, my old 1.33ghz G4 Powerbook is really showing its age.

Man, I could have bought a new Intel Laptop if I didn't buy those wheels...

I went from a 5 year old 400Ghz G4 Powerbook to my current MacBook Pro with a 2.1 Ghz Intel processor, wider display, etc. Huge difference. The best part about my business is the ability to buy any computer gear I want at any time and write it off as a completely legit expense. My upgrade cycle here has been 3+ years on average. I had my last laptop for 5 years, my main desktop now will be 3 and my assistant's machine is 5+ years old. My desktop and my assistant's machines get replaced very soon, within 90-120 days, as soon as Apple comes through with new towers. I'll probably get him a new machine before Jan 1 regardless. It's easy to justify if you use them in your business.

I bought a Dell system 4 years ago to have in case I needed to access Widows files for clients. Never really needed it. And it lost the ability to pull an IP address off the Airport 2+ years ago for some unknown reason. Calls to Dell, Linksys and Microsoft plus a visit from a local consultant failed to resolve the matter. I think it's a bad network board which would be a $50 repair, but frankly we haven't needed it. Our client interface issues are gone largely thanks to the Mac version of MS Office which never seems to fail.

The whole Mac/Windows barrier isn't really there these days with respect to interfacing with a Windows world. Computing seems to be moving towards more of a web-based scenario anyway. You have to wonder how long it will take Google to start gaining traction with web-based apps that steal Office's thunder. I happen to like Office, works well for us.

By the way I do access cycling related sites on my Mac (desperate attempt to link thread to cycling #2).

I went from a 5 year old 400Ghz G4 Powerbook to my current MacBook Pro with a 2.1 Ghz Intel processor, wider display, etc. Huge difference. The best part about my business is the ability to buy any computer gear I want at any time and write it off as a completely legit expense. My upgrade cycle here has been 3+ years on average. I had my last laptop for 5 years, my main desktop now will be 3 and my assistant's machine is 5+ years old. My desktop and my assistant's machines get replaced very soon, within 90-120 days, as soon as Apple comes through with new towers. I'll probably get him a new machine before Jan 1 regardless. It's easy to justify if you use them in your business.

I bought a Dell system 4 years ago to have in case I needed to access Widows files for clients. Never really needed it. And it lost the ability to pull an IP address off the Airport 2+ years ago for some unknown reason. Calls to Dell, Linksys and Microsoft plus a visit from a local consultant failed to resolve the matter. I think it's a bad network board which would be a $50 repair, but frankly we haven't needed it. Our client interface issues are gone largely thanks to the Mac version of MS Office which never seems to fail.

The whole Mac/Windows barrier isn't really there these days with respect to interfacing with a Windows world. Computing seems to be moving towards more of a web-based scenario anyway. You have to wonder how long it will take Google to start gaining traction with web-based apps that steal Office's thunder. I happen to like Office, works well for us.

By the way I do access cycling related sites on my Mac (desperate attempt to link thread to cycling #2).

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/botto/screen.jpg

Macs rock.
That is all.

Macs rock.
That is all.

Yup.

I don't have any cycling-related backgrounds to put up screen shots like Botto though.

And my girlfriend makes sure there's a healthy dose of background photos of her in the daily rotation. (bah...)

Macs rock.
That is all.

Thank you and Duh.

I haven't touched a Mac since my days with an Apple IIe. They sure look cool, but not enough to get me to go into that silly apple store.

I haven't touched a Mac since my days with an Apple IIe. They sure look cool, but not enough to get me to go into that silly apple store.

That's the silly retail chain that went from zero to six billion dollars in annual sales with only 200 locations in about 5 years. It's like F.A.O. Schwartz for adults. But it's not for everybody.

The only thing more pathetic than a hapless bike weenie is a hapless Windows weenie. Pcad has half that covered anyway.

I sorted my expense database yesterday by 'hardware'. The amount of $ I've spent on hardware (computers, monitors, printers, etc.) since the inception of my business in 1991:

$137,000 (approximately)

That's about $8K annually for the better part of two decades. So if you're wondering why Apple stock is > $180 per share, that has something to do with it. That figure does not include iPods.

My new 24-inch 2.4Ghz intel-iMac setup. MAN IS IT SWEET!

http://photos-a.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v142/137/35/535775282/n535775282_417784_6689.jpg

My new 24-inch 2.4Ghz intel-iMac setup. MAN IS IT SWEET!

http://photos-a.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v142/137/35/535775282/n535775282_417784_6689.jpg

Very nice!:beer:

Just got my assistant's new 24" iMac. We'll have it up and running the Adobe CS 3 products by Monday.