Favorite supplement [Archive]

Machka

11-01-07, 07:51 PM

That's not really a supplement.

In case you hadn't guessed yet, there are those of us who don't see the point of supplements. :)

I take some vitamins and minerals when my diet isn't as good as it should be, or when I'm on one of my brevets or randonnees and my body is seriously depleted, but that's about it.

PDay

11-01-07, 08:08 PM

One-a-day vitamins. Gatorade to hydrate. Ibuprofen after nearly every hard or long workout.

Another nice thing Ive discovered are ice baths...very very good for recovery. Not a supplement I know, but just throwin that in there.

Marrock

11-01-07, 08:22 PM

Mt. Dew and Slim Jims

DataJunkie

11-01-07, 08:52 PM

I have tried a variety of supplements and found nothing that helpful. Eating a reasonably healthy diet while not ridding and an appropriate amount and type of food while riding helps the most. Also, recovery drinks to keep me from eating myself out of house and home after I am finished with a ride.

Blade-Runner

11-02-07, 08:56 AM

In case you hadn't guessed yet, there are those of us who don't see the point of supplements. :)

So maybe they shouldn't reply to this post. ;)

I perfer Muscle Milk Light for a post ride meal/drink along with some almonds or walnuts.

pcates

11-02-07, 09:34 AM

So maybe they shouldn't reply to this post. ;)

I perfer Muscle Milk Light for a post ride meal/drink along with some almonds or walnuts.

but what would BF be without people ignoring the original question and giving their own opinion instead?

as far as supplements goes....there is a balance. Athletics put great demands on their bodies, and as such need a little extra at times. I agree that a proper diet is key but sometimes its not enough. A multi-vit is good as is a calcium/magnesium supplement (google cal/mag and cycling to find out why). A recovery drink is a good idea because not everyone has access to a meal right after a workout, and thats the time your body needs to replenish most. As far as other supplements....to each his own. If you want to take a protein drink everyday or stock up every vitiman under the sun go nuts, short of seriously overloading your body with these things its not going to hurt you.

The funny thing is most people don't know what a 'proper diet' really is and as such miss out on alot of the nutrients they really need. so a little supplement isn't a bad thing.

and to answer the question. I take a multi-vit, a cal/mag, omega 3-6-9 and use a recovery drink. My diet consists of lots of fruit, veggies, whole breads, chicken and fish. I limit my red meat intake, and avoid processed foods. I bake rather than fry ( i suggest baked sweet potatoes they really are great), but i won't shy away from the occasional treat. Like everything diet is about moderation. Depending on my training i'll 'experiment' with other things, sometimes i stick with them other times i disregard them as a waste of money

Carbonfiberboy

11-02-07, 11:40 AM

+1 on the cal/mag. Second favorite is a schooner of draft porter. There is nothing like draft porter to make the pain in your legs simply vanish. I don't know why it works, just that it does.

Machka

11-02-07, 04:31 PM

as far as supplements goes....there is a balance. Athletics put great demands on their bodies, and as such need a little extra at times. I agree that a proper diet is key but sometimes its not enough. A multi-vit is good as is a calcium/magnesium supplement (google cal/mag and cycling to find out why). A recovery drink is a good idea because not everyone has access to a meal right after a workout, and thats the time your body needs to replenish most.

The thing is, the OP is someone who does not ride much, unless he has increased his distances in the past few months. The 10 or 11 miles a day he was riding a few months ago would hardly put a great demand on his body ... not enough for supplements. The OP is also one who is looking for magic beans. He wants a supplement which will help him lose weight and gain muscle mass. Check out his previous posts.

As far as other supplements....to each his own. If you want to take a protein drink everyday or stock up every vitiman under the sun go nuts, short of seriously overloading your body with these things its not going to hurt you.

You've got to be really careful with vitamins. You can overdose very quickly on the ones which are not water soluable, and end up in trouble.

The funny thing is most people don't know what a 'proper diet' really is and as such miss out on alot of the nutrients they really need. so a little supplement isn't a bad thing.

So true!! It amazes me ... especially considering we're taught all this stuff right from when we were in Elementary school.

VanceMac

11-02-07, 04:40 PM

So true!! It amazes me ... especially considering we're taught all this stuff right from when we were in Elementary school.

Canada was probably better, but almost everything they taught regarding nutrition in my elementary schools (US, 60's and 70's) was bogus -- perhaps because it was essentially marketing literature from the meat and dairy lobby.

Machka

11-02-07, 06:05 PM

Canada was probably better, but almost everything they taught regarding nutrition in my elementary schools (US, 60's and 70's) was bogus -- perhaps because it was essentially marketing literature from the meat and dairy lobby.

This is what we are taught here in Canada:

http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/fn-an/food-guide-aliment/index_e.html

It has changed a bit since I was in school ... probably for the better. If a person followed the information presented there that person would have a fairly well-balanced diet. I also like the fact that they include information about healthy habits and active living.

Edgecrusher

11-04-07, 02:47 PM

In case you hadn't guessed yet, there are those of us who don't see the point of supplements. :)

I take some vitamins and minerals when my diet isn't as good as it should be, or when I'm on one of my brevets or randonnees and my body is seriously depleted, but that's about it.

:rolleyes:
Uhg...more lecturing from the left.
I'm with you EJ, dope it up baby! It's my body, it's my life, period.
If I so choose to take the risk of ingesting questionable supplements
I will accept the consequences.

I take, (on the recent advice of another here) Bronkaid, (ephedrine)
Super! Lots of Taurine, and DHEA. I would love to get my hands on some
andro and hgh. It is hard to find a reliable source though. I'm always looking for
a good boost illegal or legal. Forget training hard, it's too taxing on older bodies.
I suffer enough, so having something to aid in my performance is the unfair advantage.

Perfectly fine in my book. It is no different than smoking dope, or drinking alcohol
any alcohol. Of course the self-righteous will tell you different, because they
do not use logic in their arguments, instead, they like to pick and choose what
THEY think is right and wrong, and tell you and I how we should act and live...:rolleyes:

Most of these types are infinitely hypocritical and cannot think clearly. ;)

cat4ever

11-04-07, 03:53 PM

The thing is, the OP is someone who does not ride much, unless he has increased his distances in the past few months.

That doesn't seem to be the point of the original question.

"Curious to read about your single most prized supplement you take for any reason what so ever, whether sports or casually related."

To that I say Endurox R4. That was simple.

Machka

11-04-07, 04:29 PM

That doesn't seem to be the point of the original question.

"Curious to read about your single most prized supplement you take for any reason what so ever, whether sports or casually related."

To that I say Endurox R4. That was simple.

These might give you an idea about the point of the original question:

http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=255165&highlight=supplement

http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=255389&highlight=supplement

http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=241238&highlight=supplement

EJ123

11-04-07, 04:36 PM

The OP is also one who is looking for magic beans. He wants a supplement which will help him lose weight and gain muscle mass. Check out his previous posts.

Hey now, that's a highly erroneous statement. I've known from the start that the only reasonable way to drop body fat was primarily a reduction in calories combined with (ana)aerobic exercises. From a few diet/fitness books I've read, that's what they're asserting, which got me wondering, and consequentially questioning whether I should try that or focus on one plan. Therefore I found it's better to drop the fat first then work on the muscle mass, not taking supplements without any physical activity. Even if I had the most well-balanced diet, you appear to insinuate that all supplements are worthless. What do you think of when it comes to beneficial Omega 3's? I doubt most well-balanced diets can provide the amount it takes to be helpful, among other substances.

there are those of us who don't see the point of supplements.
I take some vitamins and minerals when my diet isn't as good as it should be...but that's about it
Now that's ironic.(hypocritical?)

I believe supplementation is beneficial when an individual is either lacking nutrients (highly common) or needs to increase something due to an activity (weight-loss, demanding exercises, illness, ect) But there are even other supplements I support other than mere vitamin/minerals, for instance: MSM, chlorella, fish-oil especially. I just don't appreciete the judgement that I was looking for a quick-fix from supplements.

mateo44

11-04-07, 04:43 PM

Yeah, since those right wingers are known for supporting things like drug legalization and abortion. :p

:rolleyes:
Uhg...more lecturing from the left.
I'm with you EJ, dope it up baby! It's my body, it's my life, period.
If I so choose to take the risk of ingesting questionable supplements
I will accept the consequences.

I take, (on the recent advice of another here) Bronkaid, (ephedrine)
Super! Lots of Taurine, and DHEA. I would love to get my hands on some
andro and hgh. It is hard to find a reliable source though. I'm always looking for
a good boost illegal or legal. Forget training hard, it's too taxing on older bodies.
I suffer enough, so having something to aid in my performance is the unfair advantage.

Perfectly fine in my book. It is no different than smoking dope, or drinking alcohol
any alcohol. Of course the self-righteous will tell you different, because they
do not use logic in their arguments, instead, they like to pick and choose what
THEY think is right and wrong, and tell you and I how we should act and live...:rolleyes:

Most of these types are infinitely hypocritical and cannot think clearly. ;):p

gapowermike

11-08-07, 07:17 PM

Super Mega Gold Multivitamin
Co Q 10
Selenium
Vitamin C
B Complex
Flaxseed Oil
Magnesium
Ginger Root

My diet sucks. I've got to get some of the good where I can.

Michael

POLK727

12-04-07, 09:22 AM

One of my favorite past time is to go biking with my girlfriend but my passion is lifting weights. For that I like taking creatine and NO, it helps me recover quicker and build muscles. Im currently stacking Green Bulge (http://www.illpumpyouup.com/controlled-labs/green-bulge.htm) and White Blood (http://www.illpumpyouup.com/controlled-labs/white-blood.htm)

dannys1981

12-04-07, 11:38 AM

Testosterone Enanthate...

ZXiMan

12-04-07, 11:43 AM

Epo? :lol:

edzo

12-04-07, 11:53 AM

I straight-up inject C267H402O76N64S6
and C256H381N65O79S6 [after workouts and before eating]

along with some disodium hydrogen phosphate dihydrate for that added kick-in-the pantz

and I beat all the doping tests. I suggest everyone do it.

/not really everyone do it

//I am doping though

///uci says I can do it

Nickel

12-04-07, 01:39 PM

Even though you are trying to lose weight, you can still lift weights and make strength gains. There are newbie gains where you can build muscle and lose fat but they don't last very long.

I take EPA/DHA, Calcium/D/Mg, and 1/2 a multi. And coffee. ;)

Hey now, that's a highly erroneous statement. I've known from the start that the only reasonable way to drop body fat was primarily a reduction in calories combined with (ana)aerobic exercises. From a few diet/fitness books I've read, that's what they're asserting, which got me wondering, and consequentially questioning whether I should try that or focus on one plan. Therefore I found it's better to drop the fat first then work on the muscle mass, not taking supplements without any physical activity. Even if I had the most well-balanced diet, you appear to insinuate that all supplements are worthless. What do you think of when it comes to beneficial Omega 3's? I doubt most well-balanced diets can provide the amount it takes to be helpful, among other substances.

Now that's ironic.(hypocritical?)

I believe supplementation is beneficial when an individual is either lacking nutrients (highly common) or needs to increase something due to an activity (weight-loss, demanding exercises, illness, ect) But there are even other supplements I support other than mere vitamin/minerals, for instance: MSM, chlorella, fish-oil especially. I just don't appreciete the judgement that I was looking for a quick-fix from supplements.

tdister

12-07-07, 03:09 AM

B vitamin complex....and really weak black tea for rides (with some Ultima replenisher at times). I can't really handle caffeine anymore, but just a tiny bit really seems to help me go a little longer and a bit more intense. And it tastes better than just plain water. Not that I don't drink water, but I find I drink more when I have tea

Richard Cranium

12-07-07, 06:06 AM

favorite
adj 1: appealing to the general public; "a favorite tourist
attraction" [syn: favourite]
2: preferred above all others and treated with partiality; "the
favored child" [syn: favored, favorite, favourite,
pet, preferred]
n 1: something regarded with special favor or liking; "that book
is one of my favorites" [syn: favourite]
2: a special loved one [syn: darling, favourite, pet, dearie,
deary, ducky]
3: a competitor thought likely to win [syn: front-runner, favourite]

The adjective "favorite" isn't usually applied to dietary supplements. I wonder if the original post is supposed to mean - "What supplement do you take that you feel is the most beneficial? The most effective?

An intelligent method of eliciting the same information would be to ask if anyone feels their diet is deficient in some way -- and is their use of a supplement effectively treating this deficiency?

So far, the only supplement to my diet that can positively be identified as effectively improving my health is my blood pressure medication. It's a testable, repeatable result that I can identify.

I can hazard a good guess that Cytomax benefits re-hydration after exercise, but I doubt I could prove it works much better than dozen other everyday drinks.

So how many of you take a supplement or dietary aid that produces, repeatable, testable results? Is it your "favorite?"

ChunkyB

12-07-07, 07:23 AM

Diet Coke and skittles.

VanceMac

12-07-07, 10:47 AM

So how many of you take a supplement or dietary aid that produces, repeatable, testable results? Is it your "favorite?"

When it comes to supplements (or anything that will have difficult to quantify, long-term effects) I prefer testable, repeatable results on a statistically significant number of subjects in sound scientific studies, rather than anecdotal, unscientific self-observation.

favorite
adj 1: appealing to the general public; "a favorite tourist
attraction" [syn: favourite]

The adjective "favorite" isn't usually applied to dietary supplements. I wonder if the original post is supposed to mean - "What supplement do you take that you feel is the most beneficial? The most effective?

An intelligent method of eliciting the same information would be to ask if anyone feels their diet is deficient in some way -- and is their use of a supplement effectively treating this deficiency?

Perhaps your dictionary has an entry for "pedantry"?

Carbonfiberboy

12-07-07, 11:31 AM

Training is like a hammer. "Supplements" are like a feather. Training is my favorite supplement. It results in testable, repeatable results in a statistically significant number of subjects. That said, vegans and vegetarians can benefit from protein and/or B12 supplements. But nothing compared to consistent training.