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zzoundss
11-02-07, 08:35 PM
http://www.alienbikes.com/gear.html

Check out the frameset at the bottom. Lugged, no stupid flashy decals, no holes for brakes, no braze ons, no steep price tag. Also has room for wider tires. If I didnt just buy a Levant track frame, I would really wanna check this out

$400 coming soon.


I like the fork too. The lug work looks nice.


Legalize It
11-02-07, 08:43 PM
I like the companies mentality behind the design of the products.

Simple. Easy.

chungaroo
11-02-07, 08:47 PM
How much would an 07 Fuji Track frameset go for? Looks like a chance to upgrade


BistaPoy
11-02-07, 08:49 PM
That's a pretty good deal. I wonder how much shipping from Norway will be.

bicycle
11-02-07, 08:52 PM
That's a pretty good deal. I wonder how much shipping from Norway will be.

Not a problem; "Alien Bikes has main "offices" in Norway (shipments are made from a warehouse facility in Michigan)"

from the 'contact' page
http://www.alienbikes.com/contact.html

br995
11-02-07, 08:58 PM
Nice looking stuff. (except for those track ends)

edit: any idea what this piece is on the edge of the platform (right before the axle)?

http://www.alienbikes.com/ebay/B4EB7E55-00F0-4A26-A17B-A5310A92D62F.jpg

c0urt
11-02-07, 09:10 PM
reflector mount, my clipless pedals have them there is a amber reflector underneath the pedal

vee_dub
11-02-07, 10:13 PM
Nice looking stuff. (except for those track ends)

edit: any idea what this piece is on the edge of the platform (right before the axle)?

http://www.alienbikes.com/ebay/B4EB7E55-00F0-4A26-A17B-A5310A92D62F.jpg

I would buyy this pedals if they were Powdercoated black....it would look BAM.

eXCeSS
11-02-07, 10:24 PM
That top piece is plastic?

blickblocks
11-02-07, 10:37 PM
I really want those pedals.

And crankset.

Too bad the frame doesn't come in white, it would really make the black components pop.

doofo
11-02-07, 10:38 PM
i hate it when people use the word pop like that

JellyMeetsJam
11-02-07, 10:41 PM
I really want to see a better picture of their dayglow bike (blurry picture at the top of the page).

blickblocks
11-02-07, 10:41 PM
i hate it when people use the word pop like that

I'm trying to find a witty one-picture response but I'm all out.

doofo
11-02-07, 10:43 PM
what about

i hate it when i pop your mom like that

Straws
11-02-07, 10:46 PM
The track ends dont look too bad. A **** load better than some other drop outs shown in a thread earlier today and a hell of a lot cheaper than those Mission Bicicletas.

blickblocks
11-02-07, 10:49 PM
what about

i hate it when i pop your mom like that

:(

vee_dub
11-02-07, 10:58 PM
i hate it when people use the word pop like that

Everyone use word in a different way!

I hate it when people whinge about little **** like that.

vee_dub
11-02-07, 10:59 PM
what about

i hate it when i pop your mom like that

Why talk about peoples mum like that? Pleaseee dont talk about ppls mum they got nothing to deal with everything.

doofo
11-02-07, 11:02 PM
you remind me of the girl who sobbed in my 10th grade sex ed class because she didnt want to be told what love was

she wanted to discover it for herself

she said that the dictionary should contain an entry for every individual person's interpretation of a word

specifically the dictionary should be rewritten after she falls in love to include her description of it

um yeah

i wonder how that worked out

666pack
11-03-07, 01:21 AM
i saw that earlier.

they have those andel cranks for REAL cheap. the silver ones are less than a bill! even soma is selling them for way more than that!

charlesxbronson
11-03-07, 02:21 AM
i like those frames.

however, i'm jobless.

i'll ask for allowance.

maddyfish
11-03-07, 07:48 AM
Looks pretty good.

bonechilling
11-03-07, 07:53 AM
It's a good looking frame, and $400 is a good-enough deal, but it's not like it's that great. You're basically paying a $225 premium for lugs, over a comparable frame like the Kilo TT. Plus, you can find used, handmade lugged steel track frames on eBay in the $400-$500 range (especially in the smaller sizes), and I suspect that the price of these bikes are going to stay low or drop even more, with more entires like this into the market.

That said, they seem to have some really good deals, and I have no doubt that they'll sell a great many of these frames.

asherlighn
11-03-07, 08:16 AM
Not a bad price for those wheels either.

Those pedals look like they would really only be comfortable if you have slim feet or are wearing pretty stiff soled shoes.

Dumpsterlife
11-03-07, 08:40 AM
http://www.brooklynrecord.com/archives/25et.jpg

mathletics
11-03-07, 08:46 AM
I thought the frame (and pricetag) looked very nice until I read the copy.


This geometry might be odd for a road bike that sees high speeds on alpine descents, but for a fixed gear bike that is only ridden in a very narrow speed range, it's the bees' knees!

I don't know if this describes all track bikes and I'm whining about nothing, but I don't think the cycling world in general needs any more bikes that aren't actually made to be ridden.

asherlighn
11-03-07, 08:51 AM
I thought the frame (and pricetag) looked very nice until I read the copy.


This geometry might be odd for a road bike that sees high speeds on alpine descents, but for a fixed gear bike that is only ridden in a very narrow speed range, it's the bees' knees!

I don't know if this describes all track bikes and I'm whining about nothing, but I don't think the cycling world in general needs any more bikes that aren't actually made to be ridden.

I think he means it handles really well in the 15-25 mph range, as opposed to the 20-40mph range. It makes sense if you are going to be riding in the city.

monsterkidz
11-03-07, 09:52 AM
Those bikes look like a really good option at that price point. Anyone have an idea of how long until they are available? It will be interesting to see a company make a nice simple (affordable) lugged frame and fork without too much of a gimmick.

wildturkey
11-03-07, 10:53 AM
i'm really interested in the wheelset. $149 including cog and lockring! wonder how nice it is... or how it compares to something like my Somax wheelset that cost a lot more...

zzoundss
11-03-07, 11:24 AM
i'm really interested in the wheelset. $149 including cog and lockring! wonder how nice it is... or how it compares to something like my Somax wheelset that cost a lot more...

There is a review of it on FixedGearGallery.com

Straws
11-03-07, 11:37 AM
There is a review of it on FixedGearGallery.com

the review basically says "It's a 149 dollar wheelset for sale by our sponsor. uh, cool?"

conor
11-03-07, 11:40 AM
too bad you can't opt to get them machined.

JellyMeetsJam
11-03-07, 01:47 PM
Are they powdercoated or anodized?

metaljim
11-03-07, 07:52 PM
nice, but i simply refuse to buy anything names "alien."

xiamsammyx
11-03-07, 08:21 PM
i dunno, i used to love the shiz out of my alien workshop boards.

bonelesschicken
11-03-07, 08:43 PM
I wonder how wide "widish" means? 28mm slicks? cyclocross tires?

edit: from the alien page "if you like us think flip-flop hubs are an eye-sore" huh?

dddave
11-03-07, 08:43 PM
those alien computers are pretty sick, too.

and yea, that wheelset has piqued my interest.

kmart
11-03-07, 08:48 PM
This geometry might be odd for a road bike that sees high speeds on alpine descents

Meaning it's unstable and twitchy? Optimized for "ghettodrome"? I'm confused. I might be cruising along at <20 or drafting a city bus doing 30 and I'd like my bike to handle comfortably at either range....

Live2Die
11-03-07, 09:34 PM
Yeah the description is a little scary but the bike seems like it's worthy of a go.

NitroPye
11-04-07, 08:24 AM
I just ordered the wheelset, will do my best to post some form of a review after I get them and have a few miles on them.

fix:
11-04-07, 10:34 AM
the best part of the fgg review:
"Don't know about you, but it always bothered me having those fixed or free threads just spinning there empty. I'd even pondered making something to thread onto that waiting side. No problem with Alien's hubs. There's only threads on one side of these 120mm spaced hubs."

thats some grade-a shilling right there

doofo
11-04-07, 10:38 AM
lol

options ever bother you
?

then buy our product cause it dont have any!

Straws
11-04-07, 10:48 AM
the best part of the fgg review:
"Don't know about you, but it always bothered me having those fixed or free threads just spinning there empty. I'd even pondered making something to thread onto that waiting side. No problem with Alien's hubs. There's only threads on one side of these 120mm spaced hubs."

thats some grade-a shilling right there

yeah that was pretty stupid of FGG. I wonder how painful it was to write that and know that his bike with a flip-flop was sitting a few feet away.

piwonka
11-04-07, 11:32 AM
I don't know if this describes all track bikes and I'm whining about nothing, but I don't think the cycling world in general needs any more bikes that aren't actually made to be ridden.

so how is it not made to be ridden. would you do an alpine descent on your track bike? so what do you think your cadence would be at 45mph on the way down with a gear you could actually climb to the top with.

zzoundss
11-04-07, 11:46 AM
I think all this guy is trying to say is, "It has track geometry. It will feel a little different then road geometry."

gargiulo.mike
11-04-07, 11:58 AM
anyone happen to see this on fgg? i dont know if it was posted in this thread before because i dont read this forum.
http://www.fixedgeargallery.com/reviews/alien/wheelset/

Jonny Pockets
11-04-07, 12:17 PM
I am getting that wheelset for sure.

mihlbach
11-04-07, 01:02 PM
http://www.alienbikes.com/gear.html

Check out the frameset at the bottom. Lugged, no stupid flashy decals, no holes for brakes, no braze ons, no steep price tag. Also has room for wider tires. If I didnt just buy a Levant track frame, I would really wanna check this out.

Thats a really stupid combination. A half-assed lattempt at getting both track/street-cred and versatility leaves you with neither.

acoldspoon
11-04-07, 01:50 PM
Meaning it's unstable and twitchy? Optimized for "ghettodrome"? I'm confused. I might be cruising along at <20 or drafting a city bus doing 30 and I'd like my bike to handle comfortably at either range....
Any track frame is going to be twitchy and unstable at alpine descent type speeds. In fact any decent custom crit or time trial frame will be too. Many pelotons cruise at 30 MPH, and those speeds are easy to hit on a track too. When talking about alpine descents though, the speeds being referred to are 50 MPH+. I love my track frame and my crit frame, but they can be a handful on a two mile steep grade twisty descent. While in the city your speed range will generally be 0-30 MPH, in the mountains during a road race the speed range can easily be 0-50 MPH. This requires very different geometry. Thats why a lot of crit racers don't like TDF replica frames. That slack geometry is all wrong for a crit, but all right for long descents down mountains and long days in the saddle. In the City, my speed is predominantly in the 0-20 MPH range, and I need very sharp handling to navigate my way through traffic. Insomuch, traditional track geometry works very well for me. I'd be curious to see this frames geometry, as judging from my eye it looks about right for me. I especially like the shortened top tube. Great for my preferred heads up riding style, yet as mentioned in the ad it is all wrong for road racing.

piwonka
11-04-07, 03:45 PM
I'd be curious to see this frames geometry, as judging from my eye it looks about right for me.

i already emailed them about the geometry specs...