"The 33"-Road Bike Racing - Cat 4s Doping Now !?!?

I snipped this from the thread listed below. Jeesh !!! This guy is meesing himself up just to try to compete at a Cat 4 !?!?

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If you've been on this board for any period of time - which you (madtrack) have - then you know the major f'ups RealGains could have helped me avoid regarding test/EQ/turanibol etc. a couple of years ago....not only would I have saved money on peds, I'd of saved money on physical therapy too after - surprise, surprise, I blew-out/strained/tore a tendon after I more then doubled my squat and tried transfering that to the kilo (for awhile I thought I had jumped from a 4 to a 2....till my body reminded me I was a 4)

I'm still recovering....my threshold is about 225 for example, yup 225...that beats the 160ish that it was last winter....in TT's last season I couldnt even put out the power to get my HR up to the previous 168-172bpm that it would get in TT's...instead 155ish...I didnt even bother with crits...why pay 30 bucks to get dropped in < a lap?

My theory on why I'm taking so long to recover, is that I am fairly new to being fit (< 5 years -fittest in my life) and lets just say if 40+ masters races wasnt so damn hard, I could race in it, so getting back to that hard fought fitness level (mid packer cat IV) is proving long and slow.

http://www.cuttingedgemuscle.com/Forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=172288#post172288

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this person is a tool and not a cyclist.

threshold of 225? I don't think so.

I heard a rumor that people sometimes tell lies on the internets.

whatever...my max heart rate is like 230....with a resting pulse of about 13.

i am a cat 5.....strung all out on EPO.

I've said it before: If you need dope to beat me, you shouldn't even bother getting out of bed. Really, what's the freakin' point?

threshold of 225? I don't think so.

I heard a rumor that people sometimes tell lies on the internets.

Yes, but these are only rumors.

I've said it before: If you need dope to beat me, you shouldn't even bother getting out of bed. Really, what's the freakin' point?

yeah the only way anyone would need to dope cat4 is if it is prescribed to sort out a real
medical condition.

otherwise there is no point.

cycling at that level is about time in the saddle.

you want to dope ? get to be a cat 1 first without dope, then don't get caught.

that is the only time you'd see a difference vs putting in real actual miles. slobs with low miles
don't get upgraded for a reason...dope won't help

I snipped this from the thread listed below. Jeesh !!! This guy is meesing himself up just to try to compete at a Cat 4 !?!?

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If you've been on this board for any period of time - which you (madtrack) have - then you know the major f'ups RealGains could have helped me avoid regarding test/EQ/turanibol etc. a couple of years ago....not only would I have saved money on peds, I'd of saved money on physical therapy too after - surprise, surprise, I blew-out/strained/tore a tendon after I more then doubled my squat and tried transfering that to the kilo (for awhile I thought I had jumped from a 4 to a 2....till my body reminded me I was a 4)

I'm still recovering....my threshold is about 225 for example, yup 225...that beats the 160ish that it was last winter....in TT's last season I couldnt even put out the power to get my HR up to the previous 168-172bpm that it would get in TT's...instead 155ish...I didnt even bother with crits...why pay 30 bucks to get dropped in < a lap?My theory on why I'm taking so long to recover, is that I am fairly new to being fit (< 5 years -fittest in my life) and lets just say if 40+ masters races wasnt so damn hard, I could race in it, so getting back to that hard fought fitness level (mid packer cat IV) is proving long and slow.

http://www.cuttingedgemuscle.com/Forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=172288#post172288

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His theory is wrong. He kinda sucked all natural. Funny no mention of winning any races doped either.

I'm with CastIron. If you need the juice to beat ME, you should consider ritual suicide.

threshold of 225? I don't think so.

I thought he was talking about wattage.

How'd you find that post? I didn't mean for it to be posted here!

I agree with edzo.

No doping stories surprise me, after a bunch of fat and lazy rec softball players were found juicing in my area, just to up thier home-run totals.

Anyone doping as a Cat 4 has some serious self esteem issues. Probably has or had other drug addictions as well. It is pretty sad, really.

whatever...my max heart rate is like 230....with a resting pulse of about 13.

i am a cat 5.....strung all out on EPO.


I bet you do LT training every day 7 days a week too. Thats the only way to get faster you know.

24k question is "why are you looking at PED forums in the first place".

No doping stories surprise me, after a bunch of fat and lazy rec softball players were found juicing in my area, just to up thier home-run totals.

I actually find this to be kind of hilarious. It's got to at least make it as a SNL or South Park skit


24k question is "why are you looking at PED forums in the first place".

Pedophile?

I thought he was talking about wattage.

+1

I'm pleased to say that my "naturally aspirated" left leg is as strong as both of his were last winter...combined.

What a f###ing p_ssy.

No doping stories surprise me, after a bunch of fat and lazy rec softball players were found juicing in my area, just to up thier home-run totals.

What?

Link?

Truly laughable...I wonder if he also needs Viagra and Rogaine.

My theory on why I'm taking so long to recover, is that I am fairly new to being fit (< 5 years -fittest in my life) and lets just say if 40+ masters races wasnt so damn hard, I could race in it, so getting back to that hard fought fitness level (mid packer cat IV) is proving long and slow.


He has me worried if mid packer cat IV takes hard fought fitness.

Truly laughable...I wonder if he also needs Viagra and Rogaine.

The stealth potshots @ Pcad are duly noted.

24k question is "why are you looking at PED forums in the first place".

It was posted here last week and it's pretty fascinating to read. When I have more time I'm going to search and see how many posters from here I can find there(so far one).

He has me worried if mid packer cat IV takes hard fought fitness.

Spoken like a true Road Nazi. You are hereby awarded the BF Road Nazi Iron Cross. Congratulations.

Spoken like a true Road Nazi. You are hereby awarded the BF Road Nazi Iron Cross. Congratulations.

You mean this?

What?

Link?

I can't find a link, but two years ago when the Dearborn Police arrested a man selling steroids his number one clients were highschool football players, and his second greatest amount of clients were rec-league softball players.

I can't find a link, but two years ago when the Dearborn Police arrested a man selling steroids his number one clients were highschool football players, and his second greates amount of clients were rec-league softball players.

no really that surprising.

Pedophile?


Performance Enchancing Drugs

he was making a joke, sorry you missed it. i thought it was funny

you dudes probably don't know what it's like as a Cat 4 in California! the top 10 in a cat 4 race, look like mutants who could be doing great in cat 3!!! and california cat 3's look like the guys who place top 10 in paris roubaix!

you dudes probably don't know what it's like as a Cat 4 in California! the top 10 in a cat 4 race, look like mutants who could be doing great in cat 3!!! and california cat 3's look like the guys who place top 10 in paris roubaix!

Meh. There's dopers racing cat5 in Florida. Big deal. Just trudge on and do your best.

you dudes probably don't know what it's like as a Cat 4 in California! the top 10 in a cat 4 race, look like mutants who could be doing great in cat 3!!! and california cat 3's look like the guys who place top 10 in paris roubaix!

I don't. Then again, I want a freak show I pay a carny for the pleasure.

It was posted here last week and it's pretty fascinating to read. When I have more time I'm going to search and see how many posters from here I can find there(so far one).


Why does it bother you to the point of needing to "out" a rider for posting on a PED forum? Yeah it sucks racing against others that are on PEDs but in today's world thats just a fact of life. The closer you get to pro status in any endurance sport the more athletes you will see on PEDs. I myself am clean due to a fear of DEATH, having no access to any PED, and having no money to buy PEDs.

If folks want to risk death just to hit the next level then let them be. In no way does their PED use impact you at all.. even if you are racing against somebody taking PEDs. The improvement you get at our level from those drugs is really small when compared to the bike skills needed to acually win a race. Either they will win a few times and upgrade away from your class or will never win.

I agree that forum has some interesting threads though. Now you have me browsing :)

you dudes probably don't know what it's like as a Cat 4 in California! the top 10 in a cat 4 race, look like mutants who could be doing great in cat 3!!! and california cat 3's look like the guys who place top 10 in paris roubaix!

Some of us do (several guys on here race nor-cal in the 1,2 or 3). You also see or hear about the guys "training plans" and just kind of shrug it off. If you ego so fragile that you are willing to take years off your life and massive risks to beat me for a $20 prize and a velo promo t-shirt then rock on. I'll do it the hard way.

Truly laughable...I wonder if he also needs Viagra and Rogaine.

oh, no, contra-indicated, leads to this...

http://images.usatoday.com/life/gallery/uncool/mohawk.jpg

Woohoo! I'm a mutant! I'm so glad I catted up.


(By the way, if you need drugs to produce 221 W, take up bowling.)

guy must be desperate to dope at that level...

I dunno, my opinion is that there is nothing wrong with this, as long as we properly educate let them ruin their lives. I feel great after a bike ride/race and in the end that's what matters to me.

Why does it bother you to the point of needing to "out" a rider for posting on a PED forum?

Because doping as an amateur is just ****ing pitiful and most people know this. Those who do and are stupid enough to post semi-anonymously about it at least deserve the embarrassment and possible ostracization of being outed. Plus it's amusing which is the main motivation behind most of my posting.



The improvement you get at our level from those drugs is really small when compared to the bike skills needed to acually win a race.

Speak for yourself. PEDs can make a huge difference in my races.

I dunno, my opinion is that there is nothing wrong with this, so you won't make a big deal when i sit out the first three quarters of the next race and just jump in to win the sprint? i can just pick and choose the rules i want to follow?

so you won't make a big deal when i sit out the first three quarters of the next race and just jump in to win the sprint? i can just pick and choose the rules i want to follow?

if that's what you want to do to win... im not advocating doping, i just think we make too big of a deal out of it. In my opinion cycling would be a lot better of a sport if UCI took off the weight regulations of a bike and made it limitless as well. Same thing with F1 racing, they put all these rules into effect that in my opinion take away from the sport.

if that's what you want to do to win... im not advocating doping, i just think we make too big of a deal out of it. In my opinion cycling would be a lot better of a sport if UCI took off the weight regulations of a bike and made it limitless as well. Same thing with F1 racing, they put all these rules into effect that in my opinion take away from the sport.

And without those rules in effect, the competitors in each sport DIE as a result.

Running 50lbs of boost in a 3.0L engine is not safe. Or any engine, for that matter.

Just like running your hematocrit at 60%. People die in their sleep.

Because doping as an amateur is just ****ing pitiful and most people know this. Those who do and are stupid enough to post semi-anonymously about it at least deserve the embarrassment and possible ostracization of being outed. Plus it's amusing which is the main motivation behind most of my posting.



Speak for yourself. PEDs can make a huge difference in my races.



Do you think outing somebody that has no regard for his/her body in this manner is a good idea? remember the semi-anonymously nature of the internet is a two way street... If somebody is dealing with an illegal drug and you help "out" that person it might go bad. For reference watch Dave Chapelle's "when keeping it real goes wrong".

Do you think outing somebody that has no regard for his/her body in this manner is a good idea? remember the semi-anonymously nature of the internet is a two way street... If somebody is dealing with an illegal drug and you help "out" that person it might go bad.

hahaha...

dear jrennie, i was attempting humor.

http://fairwheelbikes.com/forum/images/smiles/Smiley_nonono.gif

I guess I missed the joke cause I know guys in california that are using and its not really funny.

You mean this?

We'll have to add the coveted BF Photoshop Oak Cluster to that.