Classic & Vintage - LOOP7531 scamming bike e-bay

loop7531 is at it again, trying to sell a bike on e-bay item # 110190438930 . They tried to sell a bike a few days ago that they stole the pictures off this forum. We bid it way up and they figured it out and canceled the auction. Not sure if this one is fake but it probably is.

the pictures came from bike works nyc same exact pics and i tried to bid this time and they had me blocked so i couldn't bid

Here's the auction:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110190438930&ru=http%3A%2F%2Fsearch.ebay.com%3A80%2Fsearch%2Fsearch.dll%3Ffrom%3DR40%26_trksid%3Dm37%26satitle%3D %2B110190438930%2B%26category0%3D%26fvi%3D1

East Hill

I asked if my (fictional) brother in nearby Idaho could pick it up and pay for it in person.



From: Peter Deli <loop1357@yahoo.com>

im not home right now im in california and i took the
bicycle down with me, its been all ready disembled and
boxed up. i brought it down for a potetial buyer in
sanfrancisco where i got the bicycle with other items
at an estate auction sale.
the buyer skipped out on me though. im currently in
fresno visiting family and wont be home in a few weeks
or so. the winning bidder if so will have the bicycle
shipped from fresno not oregon and a payment by money
order or cashier check will only be excepted, i have a
monthly limit on my paypal account for receiving any
funds, its a 500.00 limit
and i maxed it all ready. so good luck bidding.

yeah right. . .

And I have some nice waterfront property in Arizona to sell ya

Can I get in on this? Looks like fun......:D

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(switching to dickhead mode....)

I asked if my (fictional) brother in nearby Idaho could pick it up and pay for it in person.

So, now someone needs to email and claim they live in Fresno, and ask for local pickup.... :D

Way to go Team C&V! Keep on this Cheesed**k and chase him back to the Nigerian bank scam!

Wait until the last few seconds of the auction, and then bid it up to $25,000 or so, so the scammer can't retract the auction - thereby leaving him a nice little Christmas present of a big, honkin' percentage fee slapped on his credit card by eBay.

That'll discourage him, not to mention make him **** in his pants.

-Kurt

So, now someone needs to email and claim they live in Fresno, and ask for local pickup.... :D

That is my plan......
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I'll tell you what: this jerk sounds an awful lot like this guy Chris (Reznick?), I can't recall his last name,
from Seattle that scammed me and several others out of bike stuff a few years back. He eventually moved to Oregon to get away from the law, and as I recall, he came from San Francisco.
I would be very reticent to buy anything from this guy.

here's the one i just sent:

hey loop- that's a sweet ride! Im seldomly fresh to selling on ebay too, i was wondering if i could come over to take it for a ride? i'd certainly be willing to spend many dollars if this is correct.I tried other auctions but really no luck with that or a compatible demographic. thanks so much!

I would be very reticent to buy anything from this guy.

We aren't! This is the third or fourth time that this person has stolen photos of nice bikes and tried to pry money out of people.

http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=354823&highlight=paramount

East Hill

Wait until the last few seconds of the auction, and then bid it up to $25,000 or so, so the scammer can't retract the auction - thereby leaving him a nice little Christmas present of a big, honkin' percentage fee slapped on his credit card by eBay.

That'll discourage him, not to mention make him **** in his pants.

-Kurt

Dang Kurt, that is an evil plan :eek: .

Eventually he's going to figure out that someone is on to him :p .

East Hill

Dang Kurt, that is an evil plan :eek:

An evil plan for a thieving ba$-turd.

Muuuahahahahahaha...

-Kurt ;)

An evil plan for a thieving ba$-turd.

Muuuahahahahahaha...

-Kurt ;)

You know, I could throw around a few scripture verses about such behavior--- but I won't. :p Great plan!

So who's going to create the fake ID? Kurt and Margaret? Ha! Let's see, ;) Kurt's new ebay ID could be "Miami Vice" and Margaret could be "Hill Street Blues." Start your bidding war from either side of the country and just imagine the guy weeping. Good luck you two!

... but then aren't you required to pay for it? No seriously, aren't you?

Or are you banking on, if he takes action you can counter with the evidence of where the bike really is?

I wasn't a smartazz... but sent him a message just to fill his box a little more. Asked for some specific pictures ;)

"Rumor has it you are a thieving turd. Rumor has it you are in Fresno CA...Can I come see the bike? Or are you going to admit you are a fraud? We might bid the bicycle up to 1 million dollars just to piss you off. You really need to knock this **** off!"

I sent this message. With any luck this guy will quit before he goes to prision.

He hasn't answered either my ebay inquiry, or the email I sent him.

Funny, eh?

You know, I could throw around a few scripture verses about such behavior--- but I won't. :p Great plan!

Indeed :D


So who's going to create the fake ID? Kurt and Margaret? Ha! Let's see, ;) Kurt's new ebay ID could be "Miami Vice" and Margaret could be "Hill Street Blues." Start your bidding war from either side of the country and just imagine the guy weeping. Good luck you two!

I wouldn't try it unless I knew quite well that it could be done without trace, which would probably be best done through the use of a poorly structured wireless internet cafe as one's access point.

Malicious, ain't it? I'm not going to be the one to implement it.

-Kurt

You know, I could throw around a few scripture verses about such behavior--- but I won't. :p Great plan!

So who's going to create the fake ID? Kurt and Margaret? Ha! Let's see, ;) Kurt's new ebay ID could be "Miami Vice" and Margaret could be "Hill Street Blues." Start your bidding war from either side of the country and just imagine the guy weeping. Good luck you two!

I think he would start figuring out someone's onto him. Those are great usernames (especially the Hill Street Blues :D ).

I'm wondering when he's going to change his eBay name and try to elude us. Ha!

East Hill

Wait until the last few seconds of the auction, and then bid it up to $25,000 or so, so the scammer can't retract the auction - thereby leaving him a nice little Christmas present of a big, honkin' percentage fee slapped on his credit card by eBay.

That'll discourage him, not to mention make him **** in his pants.

-Kurt

ok we need to do this over a biding site like auction steeler. One person go $20,000 at 5 seconds and another go $25000 with 3 seconds. No more emails to him. Just lay low and wait til you see the whites of his eyes.

ok we need to do this over a biding site like auction steeler. One person go $20,000 at 5 seconds and another go $25000 with 3 seconds. No more emails to him. Just lay low and wait til you see the whites of his eyes.

Pretty much.

-Kurt

Wouldn't Ebay take care of this if notified of the situation?

Wouldn't Ebay take care of this if notified of the situation?

They haven't yet, and they've been told.

East Hill

Ebay doesn't care to investigate matters like this. I am thinking that this listing (http://tinyurl.com/2bfvuw) might help...

Nevermind. Apparently eBay acts quickly on postings like mine...

Funny, Ebay yanked an listing of mine for a Shimano Sante derailleur, described as "like Ultegra", which it was. Of course I had to pay to relist it as "Shimano Sante Ultegra" derailleur. They called it keyword spamming, I called it an accurate description.

Funny, Ebay yanked an listing of mine for a Shimano Sante derailleur, described as "like Ultegra", which it was. Of course I had to pay to relist it as "Shimano Sante Ultegra" derailleur. They called it keyword spamming, I called it an accurate description.

More money for them in the long run.

-Kurt

More money for them.

I might try the snipe attack on this guy. He deserves it, and hopefully, has a credit card being auto-billed...

-Kurt

XXXXX XXXX XXXX XXX XXXXX! ;) (Edited at the request of the fleabay sting task force for security and undercover purposes. :eek:

Miami Vice lays his snare! ;)

Heh heh...

P.S.: Could you remove that quote? Thanks. ;)

-Kurt

I asked if my (fictional) brother in nearby Idaho could pick it up and pay for it in person.


My real sister is in san fran - and she picks up stuff for me all the time - maybe we can sunff this dolt out.

My real sister is in san fran - and she picks up stuff for me all the time - maybe we can sunff this dolt out.

I think he'll be full of snuff in short order...

:beer:

-Kurt

So, now someone needs to email and claim they live in Fresno, and ask for local pickup.... :D


I did already! I need to get a junk ebay account for situations like these.

Still there, only 6 hours left! Can't wait to see how this plays out!

I notified eBay yesterday. I notified the highest bidder today. Not a peep from either. WTF, I don't care it's his/her money. I even told the bidder where the pics come from.


EDIT: who's this highest bidder with 0 feedback? One of you guys, or from the SSFG forum? Anyway, good job.

I notified eBay yesterday. I notified the highest bidder today. Not a peep from either. WTF, I don't care it's his/her money. I even told the bidder where the pics come from.

High bidder has 0 feedback. Very likely a shill.

By the way, although loop7531 has not managed to successfully con any one into buying his bogus bicycles, he has managed to successfully win an auction:

http://cgi.cafr.ebay.ca/HUGE-LOT-OF-27-GO-BOTS-GOBOTS-VINTAGE-NICE_W0QQitemZ280165517832QQihZ018QQcategoryZ753QQcmdZViewItem

East Hill

High bidder has 0 feedback. Very likely a shill.

I know. It is now. It's not the one I notified, the one I notified was legit.

Wait until the last few seconds of the auction, and then bid it up to $25,000 or so, so the scammer can't retract the auction - thereby leaving him a nice little Christmas present of a big, honkin' percentage fee slapped on his credit card by eBay.

That'll discourage him, not to mention make him **** in his pants.

-Kurt

Won't you get slapped for "non-payment" of $25,000 ??

Wait until the last few seconds of the auction, and then bid it up to $25,000 or so, so the scammer can't retract the auction - thereby leaving him a nice little Christmas present of a big, honkin' percentage fee slapped on his credit card by eBay.

That'll discourage him, not to mention make him **** in his pants.

-Kurt

You will need two bidders to get it to go to the limit or your 25 large will only go to the next highest bid.

FWIW the winning bidder's personal information (home address etc) will be visible to the seller after the auction. So I would suggest only doing this if you have a completely bogus ebay i.d to use. This seller does not seem sharp enough to cause you any real damage but why open yourself up for any problems.

Also, he can just file a non paying bidder claim and get out of paying the commision. But your high bid will at least spare some sucker from getting ripped off.

You will need two bidders to get it to go to the limit or your 25 large will only go to the next highest bid.

FWIW the winning bidder's personal information (home address etc) will be visible to the seller after the auction. So I would suggest only doing this if you have a completely bogus ebay i.d to use. This seller does not seem sharp enough to cause you any real damage but why open yourself up for any problems.

Also, he can just file a non paying bidder claim and get out of paying the commision. But your high bid will at least spare some sucker from getting ripped off.

I'm not doing it - looks like there's someone who has taken my advice on it though, and stole my user name idea to boot. Should have copyrighted it :lol:

Take care,

-Kurt

well now doesn't this look firmiliarClicky Clicky (http://www.bikecult.com/works/archive/04bicycles/diamantTK.html)

well now doesn't this look firmiliarClicky Clicky (http://www.bikecult.com/works/archive/04bicycles/diamantTK.html)

Indeed! Nice detective work. :D

Someone needs to flip him the bird through eBay's "ask seller a question" in ASCII.

-Kurt

A legit account just bid $2000. I hope this is one of you who is then going to use their fake account to put in a higher bid. Otherwise you suckered somebody into thinking this is a valuable bike.

A legit account just bid $2000. I hope this is one of you who is then going to use their fake account to put in a higher bid. Otherwise you suckered somebody into thinking this is a valuable bike.

Anyone want some fake accounts to play with? :rolleyes:

-Kurt

Anyone want some fake accounts to play with? :rolleyes:

-Kurt
Yeah, I'll buy them from you for $2025. :)

Go figure. All of that, and a newbie moron from Argentina ends up purchasing it (either that, or it's an alias of Loop's, used as a protection for himself).

-Kurt

darn I thought I had him for sure at 2k

I think it's a stolen account...the guy in Argentina seems to have something to do with music/clubbing, not bicycles.

Update: the winning bidder, loki7records, is supposedly a person named Alex Shulgin/aka Toxic-Toy/aka Dr. Shulgin. He's reputed to be a professional DJ in Buenos Aires.

For those of you not into the drug scene, Alex Shulgin is the inventor of Ecstasy.

East Hill