Singlespeed & Fixed Gear - If your not into Deep V's, then what?

So if you dont like Deep V's, what does everyone recommend? I am still riding my stock Alex Rims and probably will until they break. From what I hear, Deep V's are pretty tough but they're heavy. I do also realize they have become a major trend. But I also hear so many people raggin' on them. So those who don't like the deep V's, what do you recommend for a good strong street wheel. Remember, most guys on here ride the streets, not track. So lets recommend a good street wheel.

i'll start with an open pro.

Valocity Aerohead or Fusion (mid V). Mavic Open Pro

You want it to last? Think spokes...the more the better...and go hand built.

I ride Velocity Aeroheads. I like them.

Is the problem with Deep V's that too many people have them? For street riding, tough and heavy don't really sound like problems.

mavics.

but seriously how hard do your ride that you're going to break your wheels? if you want something that will jump off curbs, i'd suggest getting something like an alex adventurer and not a deep v type of aero rim.

Mavic: CXP22 on fixed, CXP33 on road bike, Open Pros what I will be using for my next build.

Mavic: CXP22 on fixed

Backed

open pros or velocity fusions

I'm running Salsa Delgado's now, but they are about as heavy as Deep V's with none of the *****in' looks. If I needed new rims, I'd probably get some cheap-ass suns/alex's or whatever and just build them up well. Light is right!

personally i hate deep v style rim look. i hate my velocity fusions.
open pros are sexy

I started out with Alex Rims on my Pista.

I weigh 235 all up, and don't baby my bike, and the Alex rims worked just fine.

I did break a spoke, so, if a person wanted a good, cheap and light street wheel, I'd say take your machine-built Alex's and rebuild them with Sapim spokes and nipples.

If a person has the bucks, the Cane Creek Volos wheels have a lot of merit.

They weigh next to nothing, they look like aeroheads, and, because they have no nipples in the rims, they have very low inertia.

In any event, I have my original Alex rims with Pista hubs hanging up in my garage, and eventually I'll get around to rebuilding them.
I've never built a wheel and this sounds like a good project for not much money.

I actually wish I had a nice box rim on my bike right now.

delgado discs were recommended to me from some (brakeless) NYC kids. some of sun's rims, like the ME13II, are box sectioned with eyelets, and are pretty cheap.

i'll start with an open pro.

+1...Mavic open pros. They aren't the most fancy, most bling, most hip...but they work amazingly well in all conditions....

I run about 190 and beat the hell out of aeroheads and they held up just fine without truing in over a year.. I was very happy with them

mavics.

but seriously how hard do your ride that you're going to break your wheels? if you want something that will jump off curbs, i'd suggest getting something like an alex adventurer and not a deep v type of aero rim.

Word.

Mavic Open Pro
DT Swiss RR 1.1

Mavic Ellipse are awesome. They are super light (20 spokes) and super strong. I'm a big guy and they withstood my abuse riding in Baltimore. I'm not sure how much hub or spoke customizing you can do. I think that they are pretty much a one-configuration deal. But, you can get a set new for $400-$450.

If you want custom hubs and all, I also like Mavic CXP 33.

C

I've been really happy with my CXP-33's so far.

I love aerospokes (i know i'm in the minority here).

Also, FGG just did a nice review on the Alien Bike's wheelset... they look nice & are very well priced:
http://www.fixedgeargallery.com/reviews/alien/wheelset/

everybody has deepV's and they are heavy too. i hate heavy wheels, if you ride with good technique you won't destroy rims. i jump off curbs on my saaveedra turbo's and just true 'em up a little every once in a while...you know like, spend 6 minutes on it in the truing stand at the bike shop every once in a while.

i'd like some black ambrosio montreals.

Ambrosio FCS (Focus).. I've loved Ambrosios for 20+ years.
Although the Cane Creek Track V caught my eye recently .. the hub has me hypnotized but I emailed them and only available with the wheel set ....
http://www.canecreek.com/track-v-wheels.html

Um, people...when being so exacting about weight, just repeating "they're so heavy" doesn't really jibe, does it? I don't think anyone who makes this qualitative statement can tell me how many more grams there are in a deep v versus an Open Pro. But go ahead and Google it to say that you've known that all along ;).

Deep V's aren't that heavy. Not even my Weinmann's. And stronger rims let you get away with fewer spokes, which is also a way of reducing weight. On account of the angle that they come into the rim, deep V's also let you tension the spokes more (as my LBS just informed me).

2/3 of a pound of rotating mass for two rims, deepV vs. open pro.
open pro are tough enough, why not get the lighter (and better looking IMHO) wheel.

I guess you can't go wrong with an Open Pro.
BTW, I personally think the quality of the build (tensioning) is more important than the rim, and I was poor when I built my wheels so they have Mach1 CFX rims. Easily good enough and - unlike deep V's - not butt ugly.

Um, people...when being so exacting about weight, just repeating "they're so heavy" doesn't really jibe, does it? I don't think anyone who makes this qualitative statement can tell me how many more grams there are in a deep v versus an Open Pro. But go ahead and Google it to say that you've known that all along ;).

Deep V's aren't that heavy. Not even my Weinmann's. And stronger rims let you get away with fewer spokes, which is also a way of reducing weight. On account of the angle that they come into the rim, deep V's also let you tension the spokes more (as my LBS just informed me).
Check the weight of your average double butted spoke versus the weight difference between a 36 hole open pro and a 32 hole Deep V....


32 hole Open Pro if you are under 180lbs, 36 hole if you are over. Accept no substitutes (besides DT Swiss Rims...)

Velocity Aeros. Love 'em.

aero section rims.
My Velocity ones are nice.

I love aerospokes (i know i'm in the minority here).

Also, FGG just did a nice review on the Alien Bike's wheelset... they look nice & are very well priced:
http://www.fixedgeargallery.com/reviews/alien/wheelset/

I with you buddy!!!:D

but I will agree Mavic Open Pro's could be your best friend. I have a pair and they be treating me well

I have two sets of Open Pros for geared bikes and if I were getting a new fixed wheelset, I'd go with those too. Classic looks, smooth ride, unbeatable reliability: what's not to like?

So if you dont like Deep V's, what does everyone recommend? I am still riding my stock Alex Rims and probably will until they break. From what I hear, Deep V's are pretty tough but they're heavy. I do also realize they have become a major trend. But I also hear so many people raggin' on them. So those who don't like the deep V's, what do you recommend for a good strong street wheel. Remember, most guys on here ride the streets, not track. So lets recommend a good street wheel.

if you are avoiding them just because they are a trend this seems insufficient.
Their weight is offset by their stiffness--and unless you are racing on a track
why is the weight a major consideration? I got a pair on sale when I needed
new wheels--they are solid--like em a lot even if everyone has them.

Open Pro for life.

I have aeroheads and I like them a lot.

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w201/rodri9osilva/PB030020.jpg

:D

if you are avoiding them just because they are a trend this seems insufficient.
Their weight is offset by their stiffness--and unless you are racing on a track
why is the weight a major consideration? I got a pair on sale when I needed
new wheels--they are solid--like em a lot even if everyone has them.

Rotational weight makes a huge difference, no matter what kind of riding you're doing. You're much better off having a heavy frame and light wheels than vice versa.

I love my 32spoke my velocity fusions (w/veloplugs). They're light and strong. I weight 230lbs. and fly off sidewalks, curbs, potholes, etc. The wheelweight difference was big compared to deepV. I don't think i'll go back to deepV.

I've got Fusions and Aeroheads. Like them both much better than friends' Deep V's. Aeroheads are my favorite but Fusions are a bit stronger and my Fus wheelset is the one that sees more curb hopping and all around debauchery on the streets. No matter what rim you choose, you're prolonging it's life by opting for double butted spokes and a good builder.

Mavic CXP22 on my fixed and CXP33 on my road bike. Both feel great and can take some abuse.

Q: when u order custom wheels (made exactly how i requested online) from Ben's, are they handmade or is there a machine that they use there? Serious question. My wheels were so inexpensive. Somebody said they HAD to be machine made. Anybody know what Ben's does?

Mavic Ellipse are awesome. They are super light (20 spokes) and super strong. I'm a big guy and they withstood my abuse riding in Baltimore. I'm not sure how much hub or spoke customizing you can do. I think that they are pretty much a one-configuration deal. But, you can get a set new for $400-$450.

If you want custom hubs and all, I also like Mavic CXP 33.

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Super light? The hell are you talking about, no they're not.

i've used cpx22 (great until i got hit by a car, and then even for awhile after that) in the front, open pro that's been amazing in the back, and i'm impressed by aerospokes in the front

nice thread.. i had kind of the same question :)

after my front deep v got stolen on my previous bike, i got a mavic cxp22 as a quick fix; good price. turned out to be a very nice and solid wheel. i rode it almost everyday for like 4 months and it stayed near-perfectly true.

Super light? The hell are you talking about, no they're not.

Well, let me reprhase...

They were super light compared to the 32 spoke Phil Wood + Deep Vees that I replaced them with.

Mavics: http://velospace.org/node/2934
Deep V: http://velospace.org/node/2936

Well, let me reprhase...

They were super light compared to the 32 spoke Phil Wood + Deep Vees that I replaced them with.

Mavics: http://velospace.org/node/2934
Deep V: http://velospace.org/node/2936

Gotcha. Ya, that must have been a nice improvement.

Um, people...when being so exacting about weight, just repeating "they're so heavy" doesn't really jibe, does it? I don't think anyone who makes this qualitative statement can tell me how many more grams there are in a deep v versus an Open Pro. But go ahead and Google it to say that you've known that all along ;).

Deep V's aren't that heavy. Not even my Weinmann's. And stronger rims let you get away with fewer spokes, which is also a way of reducing weight. On account of the angle that they come into the rim, deep V's also let you tension the spokes more (as my LBS just informed me).

Here's the thing: some bike shops basically work as though as soon as you walk in the door the sale has already been made. All they have to do is facilitate whatever it is that you (think you) want, and if that means pitching you reasons why Deep Vs would be the best rim (and completely skipping over reasons why they wouldn't) then they're doing a great job selling you, but they're not telling you the whole story.

weinmans =P

man, a nice little digital scale popped up in my kitchen from my roommate. i'll figure out a way to weigh some wheels in grams. i don't have anything deepV but i'll weigh my tubular rims with tires vs. my open pro with tires, see what the difference is. :D
when i get home from work and figure out a way to set the rims on there.

man, a nice little digital scale popped up in my kitchen from my roommate. i'll figure out a way to weigh some wheels in grams. i don't have anything deepV but i'll weigh my tubular rims with tires vs. my open pro with tires, see what the difference is. :D
when i get home from work and figure out a way to set the rims on there.

Digital scales hmmmmmmm????;)