That's because they plan on going further than 8 miles! lol

+100
:lol::roflmao::lol:

If you want hilly, do tour of sierra madre. I think it currently leaves wednesdays from Velo Pasadena, probably at 6 pm. I haven't done it in ages, but it used to have a winter route (pre-daylight savings) and summer route (during daylight savings). Hardest group ride I've ever done-- it's usually small enough that you can't hide in the pack and get dragged along. It also used to be way more civilized than montrose (not sure if it still is)-- stopped for lights, regroup points, stopped for flats, etc.

I've always wanted to try this ride. How does it compare (speed, toughness, safety), to the Simi Ride, for those that have done both? thx

gene r

the beginning is too slow imo, they need to ramp it up at the start. Too bad its the same route everytime, that area is nice, they should mix it upyou really don't understand race training rides, do you?

I've done both, and I'd say the Montrose Ride is a little easier to keep up with just because it's relatively flat until the very end. The average speed was low 20's, which I imagine gets faster as the season gets underway. I always got dropped shortly after Norwegian Grade on the Simi Ride, so in my opinion the hills do me in on that one.

you really don't understand race training rides, do you?
He doesn't want to. It's much more fun for him to spat off random comments and read our responses.

I've always wanted to try this ride. How does it compare (speed, toughness, safety), to the Simi Ride, for those that have done both? haven't done simi in about 15 years so... ...so montrose is flatter, the hills are mostly short sprinter type hills and come all at the end on the short ride. the long ride you get all of the hills of the short ride plus a few extras. the pace is pretty fast (unless your ovoleg) the group is usually 150 riders plus or minus. have seen pros from toyota-united, rock racing, slipstream, discovery, and a guy that rides for a french continental pro team

you really don't understand race training rides, do you?

I don't think he understands cycling. Oh yeah he can ride 8 miles fast, he can ride more than 100 miles but he has to stop for meals. Don't forget he can swim 1500m. Supposedly he can also play football. To satisfy him I won't report in the "race report" thread because I am "boasting" and that is somehow hypocritical. When I talk about the training ride I am also supposedly "boasting" about "racing" although I always go out and do my pre-planned workout no matter how it affects my position in the ride.

Ovo I am not raged, you remind me of Wesley Snipes's character in "White Men Can't Jump". You talk trash to piss people off. I will bow to your talents as the king of internet trash talking. If I ever see you on a bike you will bow to me as long as your not on the ground because a motorcycle got too close and you overlapped a wheel.

haven't done simi in about 15 years so... ...so montrose is flatter, the hills are mostly short sprinter type hills and come all at the end on the short ride. the long ride you get all of the hills of the short ride plus a few extras. the pace is pretty fast (unless your ovoleg) the group is usually 150 riders plus or minus. have seen pros from toyota-united, rock racing, slipstream, discovery, and a guy that rides for a french continental pro team

The Grandview finish, which has been used in the past and is currently being used is the longest climb and is the only one that is over about 2 min. It is not really a sprinter type hill since you are climbing for about 8 min. I've ridden it in the small ring a few times this winter.

He doesn't want to. It's much more fun for him to spat off random comments and read our responses.i don't think america ready for another yakov smirnoff...
http://www.crystalgrand.com/images/smirnoff_yakov2.jpg

redal, I have to say everybody around, including Oleg, knows the score between you and Oleg. I know a lot of people enjoy hearing yours and others race and training reports. I don't even race and I enjoy them and sometimes pick up some tips. So, I am asking, don't stop your chatting because Oleg rants. He is just playing and no one takes him seriously.

redal, I have to say everybody around, including Oleg, knows the score between you and Oleg. I know a lot of people enjoy hearing yours and others race and training reports. I don't even race and I enjoy them and sometimes pick up some tips. So, I am asking, don't stop your chatting because Oleg rants. He is just playing and no one takes him seriously.

Thanks Thomson.

Actually, there seem to be a few that take him seriously. They will have a blood pressure problem if they keep it up.

+1 on the race reports. I need to live vicariously until I get respectable places myself.

maybe we can divide the forum into two sections, like a library- fiction and non-fiction. i think we know where we can find all the authors.

Where am I talking trash? Puhleez...if I wanted to race I could, but I like my collarbone :)
It's okay, we cant all be superhuman like me...dont get jealous!

Also i dont read your girly race reports, feel free to keep posting them lol.

Brian wtf, Im serious in 100% of the time. Intranet forumz are serus beezness yo.

Hey guys quick question...... i have 25 patches in my front tube and 57 in the back tube...... when do you think i should change them... i bet i can beat any of you in changing flats....

socal, you don't need to change the patches at all. They will outlast the tube itself. <grin>

Hey guys quick question...... i have 25 patches in my front tube and 57 in the back tube...... when do you think i should change them... i bet i can beat any of you in changing flats....


i challenge you to a flat changing duel! ITS ON BOI

Where am I talking trash? Puhleez...if I wanted to race I could, but I like my collarbone :)

You were supposed to join Liquid Fitness and be a rabbit for Vance, maybe a leadout guy if you could reach the end of the race :p

You were supposed to join Liquid Fitness and be a rabbit for Vance, maybe a leadout guy if you could reach the end of the race :p

Well...I happen to have a little bit of pull on that team...and I..don't...know...

Don't know if he could make it to the finish line or don't know if you want him on the team? :D

Don't know if he could make it to the finish line or don't know if you want him on the team? :D

:lol: Yes.

i challenge you to a flat changing duel! ITS ON BOI


will you show up a day early?????? :roflmao::roflmao::roflmao::roflmao::roflmao::roflmao:

i challenge you to a flat changing duel! ITS ON BOI


again...are you going to show up a day early to this too????? :roflmao::roflmao::roflmao::roflmao::roflmao:

will you show up a day early??????

^^:roflmao::lol::roflmao::lol::cry::cry::roflmao::roflmao::lol:

I tip my hat to socalcycling. A true competitor...

dat can kiC yo aZ$

Antics aside, I plan on doing this ride on Sat.

Well, who was there today?? I saw Will and redal and larry..anyone else?

I was there. The one in the Bicycle Johns kit. What kind of bike does redal ride, i think i saw him.

I was there, and I saw Bigdraft. Will and Jeff were there as well, along with some guy named Brad I met while commuting a few months ago. Mercx89, this is probably a stupid question, but what bike were you on and what jersey? I was on the debadged Litespeed in plain blue... not to be confused with the blue/black jersey on the Cannondale that couldn't hold a line and learned how to rub shoulders as a result.

not to be confused with the blue/black jersey on the Cannondale that couldn't hold a line and learned how to rub shoulders as a result.

I couldn't clip in fast enough after a light, and that apparently annoyed another rider enough that was caught behind me to teach me how to rub shoulders as he went by. :)

The ride today was the first time I've ridden with a group, and I had a blast. Then again, and according to Will, the ride doesn't start until the road pitches up towards the end (where I ended up being dropped), so maybe I didn't do the ride after all? :D

Thanks again Will for getting me out there and for all the pointers. Can't wait until next week.

Glad you gave it a try. Who were you (since we only know people by their bikes and jerseys around here)?

Black Felt and just about solid white jersey.

Merckx 89-I ride a Cannondale SystemSix. I was wearing Incycle clothes today. I got in on Arrow in Irwindale.

Well, who was there today?? I saw Will and redal and larry..anyone else?

It seemed like a few folks normally near the front were missing today and there were a few I didn't recognize. I guess some were taking it easy for MLK tomorrow. Pat, as always, was near the front.

It seemed like a few folks normally near the front were missing today and there were a few I didn't recognize. I guess some were taking it easy for MLK tomorrow. Pat, as always, was near the front.

The MLK crit was today, I think, if that's what you're referring to.

Black Felt and just about solid white jersey.
Ah yes, I saw you talking to Will every now and then.

I was there, and I saw Bigdraft. Will and Jeff were there as well, along with some guy named Brad I met while commuting a few months ago. Mercx89, this is probably a stupid question, but what bike were you on and what jersey? I was on the debadged Litespeed in plain blue... not to be confused with the blue/black jersey on the Cannondale that couldn't hold a line and learned how to rub shoulders as a result.

I was on a black look 595 with a bicycle johns jersey and plain shorts.

Is the ride rain or shine? I want to ride tomorrow (26th), but I don't want to wake up early and ride alone when I can sleep in and do the same thing. :)

It'll be a big group tomorrow morning due to the break from the weather. Guaranteed.

I'll be there again.

The 8:00 PAA group from Trader Joe's is a little mellower. I can hang with them, but not tomorrow. :)

The same Trader Joe's as the Montrose Ride does? I might have to check that out some time if they allow outsiders. I like the pace of the Montrose Ride, although I'm not too keen on some of their traffic maneuvers. I kinda like living at the moment.

tomorrow is rain suckas, no riding

In Pasadena it calls for sunshine all morning. I'll be riding and back home before it starts up again.

The same Trader Joe's as the Montrose Ride does? I might have to check that out some time if they allow outsiders. I like the pace of the Montrose Ride, although I'm not too keen on some of their traffic maneuvers. I kinda like living at the moment.yeah, i've mentioned it a couple of times. the 8:00 group leave tj's in so pas and does the long route (although some go short) and mostly rides a double paceline at a reasonable pace. it mostly runs in the winter with about 40 or so riders. anyone can go. there is one or two coaches there with their riders. when the coaches and their riders stop showing up the the early rides they kinda die out.

do the ride a few more time and you'll get used to the traffic situations

Oh, I'm used to the traffic situations. I just still don't like it. I know it's kind of a necessity with that large of a group, but I still don't like giving drivers one more reason to hate us. I will say that most drivers seem very understanding when the first 10-20 get through and wait while the rest of the 100-200 follow in the yellow and red. Drivers in Simi are not as patient.

Just fyi, I will be there tomorrow, along with zWill, UK, and JP. Anyone else?

I hope JP is careful since he isn't 100%. (I know, I'm a w-o-m-a-n and I worry about such things with all you fast riding m-e-n).