The Boa lacing is simple to operate on the fly and gives you that perfect fit you want.
The full leather shoe is great for keeping the wind and water out.
The Virbam sole is great on all terrain. Walking in the store or hiking the bike over trees.
The neoprene uppers cuffs make for a tight fit around the ankle (but with easy movement for your ankle) keeping out water and snow.
Black leather boots are always cool looking.
Weak points
Heavy
Price $269.00US
If your foot is the least bit wide get the wide MXZ 302 X
I have only 3 rides with them with temps in the teens. 23 miles was the longest. My feet stayed warm over the coarse for the ride and some minor exploring of a wooded riverbank. This were I noticed the positive side of the Vibram soles. They preformed almost as good some mid weight-hiking boots I have. I feel I could use these boots in below zero temps for hours with wool socks and neoprene shoe covers.
edzo
11-19-07, 12:16 PM
did you have a previous pair of Lake MX300 ? and can you compare the two ?
I have a pair, and they still work, but are getting a little tired in the
neoprene ankle area and the velcro straps have always annoyed me a bit...
also, I do not understand why you would want covers for these shoes. My current
pair of 300's, I only need one very thin sock under one defeet wool sock on the
coldest nights and it is plenty warm for a 40 miler...are you saying the new shoe
is colder than the old Lake 300 ?
Gojohnnygo.
11-19-07, 12:37 PM
did you have a previous pair of Lake MX300 ? and can you compare the two ?
I have a pair, and they still work, but are getting a little tired in the
neoprene ankle area and the velcro straps have always annoyed me a bit...
also, I do not understand why you would want covers for these shoes. My current
pair of 300's, I only need one very thin sock under one defeet wool sock on the
coldest nights and it is plenty warm for a 40 miler...are you saying the new shoe
is colder than the old Lake 300 ?
No I haven't had any winter cycling shoes before this. It was always hiking boots and flat pedals. It is early winter and my thoughts might change about this boot. As for your question about if the lake is colder I don't know. but they do make my feet sweat at 24F when riding.
tsl
11-19-07, 12:41 PM
Mine came last week. I got the wide ones, MXZ 302 X.
The fit is fantastic. I hadn't realized how much my regular cycling shoes were squeezing my feet. They (both my feet and the boots) felt fine with three pairs of socks, yet with only one, the BOA lacing system took up all the extra space nicely.
Walking around the LBS in them I was very impressed with the soles. They're plenty grippy. I doubt I'll slide around the linoleum at the grocery store. They're also slightly more flexible my regular cycling shoes, but on the bike--in the trainer at the LBS, on a test ride and then on the ride home--I found them plenty stiff for pedaling.
I was initially concerned that there wasn't much clearance around the cleat mounting holes, but after my fitter got done, I'm happier with them than I am with my regular shoes.
I can't report yet on how they are in the cold since it warmed up to the 40s as soon as I had my cleats fitted. I am looking forward to dry feet and no more soggy booties in the wet.
Gojohnnygo.
11-19-07, 12:44 PM
also, I do not understand why you would want covers for these shoes. My current
pair of 300's, I only need one very thin sock under one defeet wool sock on the
coldest nights and it is plenty warm for a 40 miler...are you saying the new shoe
is colder than the old Lake 300 ?
All I can say to that is I have times when the temps drop down to minus 30 below F(my coldest -37F). so I'm doing some testing.
CastIron
11-19-07, 01:59 PM
All I can say to that is I have times when the temps drop down to minus 30 below F(my coldest -37F). so I'm doing some testing.
Good luck. My 301's crap out around zero without any warmers.
Gojohnnygo.
11-20-07, 01:30 PM
CastIron
I'll let you and everyone else know. I just want to see what improvements can be made, like what socks or which booties work best with these shoes at below zero temps. Now I need to go shop for some XL mountain bike booties.
Portis
11-20-07, 03:11 PM
My 300's crap out around 20F for me. It will be interesting to see how these fair.
rufus
11-20-07, 03:53 PM
maybe it's just me, but they don't look quite as Frankenstein-y, either.
Gojohnnygo.
12-10-07, 11:56 AM
Well I have a problem with my new Lakes (32 days old) Lake winter shoes MZX 302.
The leather upper ankle where it connects to the lower vibram sole on both shoes is pulling apart. In a big way! It’s pulling away all around the lower back half of the ankle.
I e-mailed Lake Cycling and they gave me an RMA number. They responded in less then an hours time. I’ll send the shoes back and hope for the best. I really hope they can restitch them properly I hope.
I really don’t need this happening a few weeks before the coldest part of the year.
I hope for the best. I’m not saying anything bad about Lake Cycling, but time will tell.
P.S. It' not from rubbing on my crank arms the separation started in the back of the ankle.
BearSquirrel
12-12-07, 09:25 AM
also, I do not understand why you would want covers for these shoes. My current
pair of 300's, I only need one very thin sock under one defeet wool sock on the
coldest nights and it is plenty warm for a 40 miler...are you saying the new shoe
is colder than the old Lake 300 ?
How cold are your coldest nights? The number one point for these shoes is that they are waterproof and have a higher cuff. You can step in puddle of a couple inches without disaster. This would be unthinkable for a summer shoe as waterproof implies really hot. If some people need a little extra warmth, adding a bootie or a gaiter is great.
A note to lake ... Why have a "road version". Road shoes would be completely useless on ice and snow. That's one point at which the roadies actually need some lug on the bottom. Seems to me you could make larger sizes if you dropped the roadie version. Larger sizes in this shoe are warranted as most people will be using shoes one or two sizes to large to accomodate extra insulation.
tsl
12-12-07, 11:46 AM
A note to lake ... Why have a "road version". Road shoes would be completely useless on ice and snow. That's one point at which the roadies actually need some lug on the bottom. Seems to me you could make larger sizes if you dropped the roadie version. Larger sizes in this shoe are warranted as most people will be using shoes one or two sizes to large to accomodate extra insulation.
I'm guessing the road version is for roadies who don't want to change their pedals and who ride in the cold, but not the wet, ice, or snow.
As for the larger sizes, this year the 302 comes in a wide version too. I have the 48 wide version (MTB sole). I can wear three pairs of socks without my feet being squished. I only ever did this in testing. My coldest ride to date this season was 12°F. One pair of crew socks in the 302 was plenty warm enough for me.
Gojohnnygo.
12-12-07, 12:11 PM
I'm guessing the road version is for roadies who don't want to change their pedals and who ride in the cold, but not the wet, ice, or snow.
As for the larger sizes, this year the 302 comes in a wide version too. I have the 48 wide version (MTB sole). I can wear three pairs of socks without my feet being squished. I only ever did this in testing. My coldest ride to date this season was 12°F. One pair of crew socks in the 302 was plenty warm enough for me.
TSL have you looked at your boots to see if they are separating from your sole? before I send them back I was told by a local cobbler(shoe repair dude) it would be better to use shoe goo(Brand Name) Then to have them restitch.
Mazaev
12-13-07, 10:44 AM
Just got these on Monday and while they've been rather warm, today was the first day they've seen some rain. Here's the thing: I had a pair of tights (polartec) on, with the bottoms over the shoes. Nonetheless, as soon as the rain started coming down, I felt a stream of water going inside the shoe. By the time I got home (10 miles or so later), my socks were soaked.
I do notice that there is some slack in the top around my ankle when velcroed up. Does anyone have particular experience in the rain with these? Would some kind of gaiter be able to keep the water out completely, or should I consider using a bootie?
tsl
12-13-07, 11:19 AM
TSL have you looked at your boots to see if they are separating from your sole? before I send them back I was told by a local cobbler(shoe repair dude) it would be better to use shoe goo(Brand Name) Then to have them restitch.
Johhny: Yeah, I've checked mine. No apparent trouble. I'm keeping an eye on them though.
I don't know if you read the papers that came with the boots, but at the bottom of the warrany page it says to use shoe goo to repair outsole delamination.
tsl
12-13-07, 11:22 AM
I do notice that there is some slack in the top around my ankle when velcroed up. Does anyone have particular experience in the rain with these? Would some kind of gaiter be able to keep the water out completely, or should I consider using a bootie?
Ride faster than the rain. :) I haven't experienced any trouble with that. I have a couple of longer rain rides in (one hour or more) along with several shorter ones. Just wearing regular Nashbar tights too.
Gojohnnygo.
12-14-07, 12:52 PM
Johhny: Yeah, I've checked mine. No apparent trouble. I'm keeping an eye on them though.
I don't know if you read the papers that came with the boots, but at the bottom of the warrany page it says to use shoe goo to repair outsole delamination.
Yes I have. It's been two days and the shoe goo stays ply-able and holds strong. This is a better option for me then sending them back to have them restitch. It's winter up here now! (you already know that:D) with the snow and very cold temperature forecasted we have for Sunday and beyond.
Mazaev
12-20-07, 07:21 AM
Well, it's been under two weeks of everyday use. As of this morning, the BOA lacing system snapped on one of the shoes. Upon inspection, the rear out sole has also separated from the stitching and is coming loose.
About to hit the LBS to see what they say.
NealH
12-20-07, 04:08 PM
Probably not surprising. Trade them in for a pair of Northwave Fahrenheits. They are not heavy, they are warm, and they don't leak because they seal properly. Here is a discussion from another forum on good winter boots.
Probably not surprising. Trade them in for a pair of Northwave Fahrenheits. They are not heavy, they are warm, and they don't leak because they seal properly. Here is a discussion from another forum on good winter boots.
Thanks. Unfortunately, with Lake's customer service, there won't be any trading in. I made it known to my LBS guy that I would rather return them as I had a couple other complaints about these and was overall dissatisfied. He's usually great at dealing with vendors at such issues.
Just for comparisons sake, when one of the straps ripped on my 6 month old Specialized shoes, it was an almost no questions asked, give the customer a new pair of shoes type affair. Frankly, I though it was a bit overkill, but it certainly didn't detract me form buying quite a bit more Specialized stuff afterwards. Lake didn't exactly work like that. At first, they offered a $15 credit for me to go get them fixed at some shoe repair place. Then they hiked that up to $30. After being appaled, and stating that such a defect would more then likely rear its head again (nevermind that we're dealing with an almost $300 pair of shoes), we asked for a new pair to be sent which was met with a firm NO. After some hold time, the best option they could offer was to send in the shoes and have it repaired by them, which would take something like 2 weeks. Never mind that winter is here and this is when these are most needed.
Aside from the downright silly initial offer, the Lake rep also mentioned that the stitching used for the heal was indeed inferior and that they would re-stitch with something better. This, I guess, should serve as a warning to any other potential buyers.
Has anyone else had similar experiences with their customer service?
rufus
12-21-07, 12:09 PM
that's pretty crappy initial service. but if it was me, I'd send them back and have them fix 'em.
And hopefully, them acknowledging that the stitching was bad, will lead them to make changes to the shoe for the future.
Mazaev
12-21-07, 10:27 PM
that's pretty crappy initial service. but if it was me, I'd send them back and have them fix 'em.
Precisely what I'm doing. Curious to see the result.
And hopefully, them acknowledging that the stitching was bad, will lead them to make changes to the shoe for the future.
This would all be OK if these were the 300's we were dealing with. This is their third attempt at this shoe; you'd think they'd get the point by now. I've seen quite a few people mention this problem when reviewing the 301s.
rufus
12-22-07, 11:58 AM
it's possible they had a different vendor make these shoes for them this season, and things just didn't work out. You know how it is, cheapest bid usually wins.
Gojohnnygo.
12-24-07, 12:00 PM
The shoe goo is holding on very strong! That says something about the stitches in the 302MXZ Lake winter shoes. Lake cycling should have got it right the first time! At almost 300.00 for a pair shoes! We are talking about frostbite and the possibility of missing toes. What happens to my feet when out on a trail and your shoes stitches decide to fail and it's 20 F below zero? Are you going to ask me to ship them back feet included? If so I'll ask my brother in advance to do so!
Gojohnnygo.
01-21-08, 12:02 PM
They do fail right about zero F degrees. The PI Xl shoes covers do add a few of degrees of comfort maybe five or ten at best.
Last night at my house it was 19 below zero F. My feet started to go numb with in 3 or 4 miles from the house. The Shoe covers did little in adding warmth. Next time I be putting the flat pedals on with the Lakes and my Neos shoe covers they are insulated. The shoe goo is still holding.
edzo
01-21-08, 12:52 PM
they do crap out about zero degrees. I tape a handwarmer to my foot
and then i am all set for 5 hours
just a short stripm of scoth tape diagonally across the handwarmer
which is sitting on my toe knuckles, and it stays put while I put on the boot
toasty
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2008 Lake winter cycling boots. I haz them.
this is my review.
I like them,
I had 300mxz from 2002,
but was sick of the velcro strap
deal always grabbin my socks and laces. so when I saw the BOA
setup I had to try some. I saved enough bottles and now got me
some 2008 Lake 302s
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old- shoelace system, then velcro strap system. it works
but is a pain to get perfect, and the velcro grabs your socks and
the laces and it is a 2 minute per foot operation. it was what
we had at the time and it still works
getting out was marginally faster than getting in...still a PITA though
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new- BOA lacing system. insert foot, crank laces. 20 seconds for both feet
it is always adjusted correctly, or you can crank the dial on the fly
getting out is freaky fast. pop the BOA, shoe flys open
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new Lakes also have a Vibram sole which grabs the snowy ground a bit better,
and more confidence hiking up over frozen rocks and whatnot if you need to
dab or portage a stream...they also come with 2 sets of spikes, small and embiggened
and finally, the famous Lake bubble footbed is upgraded with a new reflective mylar
layer on the foot side. it -is- a warmer boot than the old ones.
I throw in shimano thin footbeds on top of the Lake footbed, 'cuz I am crazy like that. I get my lakes 2
euro sizes bigger so i can do that, as well as add double fat wool for extra cold nights [or handwarmer]
the boa lacing has no problem making the shoe fit if I use a thin sock and delete the
extra footbed, so that is a plus as well. damn fine shoe
Ken Wind
01-21-08, 04:07 PM
Here is a discussion from another forum on good winter boots.
The recommendations were mostly for Lake and northwave. A few people gave props to Diadora Chilis too. I should get a pair of the Lake boots, even though the winters are relatively mild here in central Ohio. I've been pleased with my Lake MX165 mountain shoes.
icemanbb
01-21-08, 05:35 PM
I ordered a pair back in November. I've only worn them about five times and I have a problem with the stitching on both heels disintegrating. It would almost appear to be dry rot. I'm going to take them to a cobbler and see what he can do with them. Really dissapointing to pay that kind of money for something and get such poor quality. I doubt if I'll be buying anything else from them.
On a positive note. The fit was excellent and my feet were fine with just a thin wool sock with temperatures down in single digits (°F).
Mazaev
01-22-08, 04:01 AM
Update on my issue: No update. Got back from being out of town for two weeks and checked my LBS to see whether the repaired shoes came back. Nada.
We checked the tracking number to see that they received the shoes on the 24th of December. Thanks, Lake. Nothing like having yer $300 winter shoes not be usable in the damn winter because it takes a month to fix 'em by the people that make them.
bergjm
01-22-08, 06:32 AM
I also had the MXZ300 for 4 or 5 seasons. Up until this season, they stayed together very well, but have finally started to loose the stitching on the inside of the heels and at the glue at the one toe. I decided that it was time for a new pair since Lake finally came out with wide widths, and I could never wear thick socks with the old ones since I have EE feet. I normally wear a 46 so I bought a 47 like last time since I bought the wide version, MXZ302-X.
They are a much better fit for me than the MXZ300s, and the Boa lacing system is easier that the velcro straps. I have to say though that I think the velcro straps held the boot in place better than the Boa system, since I am constantly tightening the Boa lace. I think these are slightly warmer than the old boots (could be because they fit better), but I only have 4 rides with them, and the coldest ride was only 23 F for about an hour. I was hoping to ride longer that day, but family commitments got in the way :). I need a good 10 or 15 F day with wind to get a good test in.
I have two issues with the boots though. The first is the stiching on the back of the heel where the bottom is stitched to the leather (under the yellow Z), which came out of the left shoe after the third ride. Lake said that they could be sent back to them at their expense and they would restitch it and send it back, or they offer a $15 credit if I take them to a cobbler and him/her stitch them, but no exchange. Since this is the time of year I need them, I went the cobbler route, and he stitched them in about 2 minutes. I think Lake stitches them before they stitch the liner in since I didn't feel stitches in the other boot in that spot, but the cobbler stitched through everything, so maybe it will hold a little better?
The other issue is that the Boa knob came apart in my hand on the trail on the fourth ride. Luckily I had all of the pieces, so I screwed it back together and continued the ride. I talked to Lake and they said that the knob needs to be tightened once in a while - after 3 rides?? - with the little metal tool that was attached to the shoe. I reviewed the documentation that came with the shoes and no mention of the fact that the tool was for tightening the knob (I was wondering what it was for) and that it should be checked periodically. Now that I know what the tool is for, that makes sense that it needs to be checked, but I would think it would take longer to loosen. I checked both sides and the other side was nice and tight, but my trail fix needed to be tightened. I will be checking them after every ride now.
I still like the shoe, but I don't think the quality is what it used to be. I need some more rides to be sure. I looked at other shoes, but I liked my 300s, and most of the other shoes I looked at that were cheaper, didn't come up as far on the ankle as the Lakes, and I like this for those cold wet rides and snow rides. I would also like to note that even though I don't agree with the warranty policy on the shoes, I was happy that I could be reimbursed to go to a cobbler to get them stitched since it was the same thing they were going to do, and I could get them fixed right away instead of sending them out and waiting a couple of weeks or longer for them to come back.
Gojohnnygo.
01-22-08, 01:16 PM
The other issue is that the Boa knob came apart in my hand on the trail on the fourth ride. Luckily I had all of the pieces, so I screwed it back together and continued the ride. I talked to Lake and they said that the knob needs to be tightened once in a while - after 3 rides?? - with the little metal tool that was attached to the shoe. I reviewed the documentation that came with the shoes and no mention of the fact that the tool was for tightening the knob (I was wondering what it was for) and that it should be checked periodically. Now that I know what the tool is for, that makes sense that it needs to be checked, but I would think it would take longer to loosen. I checked both sides and the other side was nice and tight, but my trail fix needed to be tightened. I will be checking them after every ride now.
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Oh crap! part of that tool was for the BOA DIAL system? I was thinking it was for the toe spikes. I need to contact lake again.
edzo
01-22-08, 08:42 PM
Oh crap! part of that tool was for the BOA DIAL system? I was thinking it was for the toe spikes. I need to contact lake again.
it is a 1 inch long chunk of metal with BOA stamped on it
yeah, that is the one
jwbnyc
01-24-08, 05:13 PM
So, I checked mine Today. The heel counter stitching has indeed failed. It seems to be a design issue. The heel counter is stitched directly to the inner neoprene boot, no leather, no nothing. Neoprene is stretchy. The thread is not stretchy. This is not good. The thread itself seems to be of a very inferior grade as well. This is an odd (cheap) way to design a boot IMO. Even if one were to use a better grade of thread, it seems to me that there is the very real possibility of the thread sawing through the inner bootie if it doesn't fail. Going to get them stitched Tomorrow.
rbrsddn
01-25-08, 05:51 AM
I'm glad my old 300's are still in good shape. It sounds like the quality has gone south. I might check out the Sidi Winter shoes next time.
edzo
01-25-08, 07:36 AM
I'm glad my old 300's are still in good shape. It sounds like the quality has gone south. I might check out the Sidi Winter shoes next time.
no it hasn't gone south. the new lakes win over the old ones. I have a new set and
enjoy winter riding a lot more.
I don't know what the issue is with the other peoples lakes, but I am rampaging mtb in the woods
in the snow with my new lakes and it rocks, they are not falling apart.
the BOA lacing system alone makes these boots worthwhile
Gojohnnygo.
01-25-08, 01:32 PM
Thats a good point maybe they had a bad batch of shoes? Who knows what? I sent an E-mail to them 2 days ago an another today with a link to this discussion with NO response at all. What are they hiding from us?
I'm a bit pissed at Lake Cycling for not E-mailing me back.
Lake Cycling I'm not Happy with the $300 dollar pair winter cycling shoes you sold me.
Johnny
Gojohnnygo.
01-28-08, 12:41 PM
I have E-mailed them 5 plus times within 7 days with NO REAL RESPONSE. I'm going to post my review on Mtb reviews in 2 days about Lake cycling winter shoes and there customer service.
Portis
01-28-08, 12:53 PM
I have E-mailed them 5 plus times within 7 days with NO REAL RESPONSE. I'm going to post my review on Mtb reviews in 2 days about Lake cycling winter shoes and there customer service.
Some companies are horrible at responding to email. Have you phoned them instead? Email is still a relatively new method of communication for some companies, mainly because they are often owned by older people who are out of touch with reality. (don't ask me how i know)
Lake Cycling
805 Greenwood St.
Evanston, IL 60201
United States
1-800-804-7777
http://www.lakecycling.com
Intheloonybin
01-29-08, 11:52 AM
If no one tries to talk me out of the Lakes, I am going to buy a pair tonight. My regular LBS does not have my size in Shimano, and I don't know of any other great brand to try, or who carries them.
I called Lake, and the nice lady did acknowledge the problem, and said the same thing people said above. They would fix them if they were a problem. Since people seemed to like the boot other than the stitching, I think I will try them. Their phone # was 800-804-7777 if anyone wants it.
It's supposed to be -12F tomorrow am, and I would like to ride- but don't want to freeze anything off.
I tried sorrel boots with wool socks this morning, and they were not good. Have another pair of wool socks and hand warmers for my toes for the way home. Hopefully will make it, as the temp is now 0, and it is still windy- like portis's flag.
Portis
01-29-08, 12:53 PM
I've never had sorrel boots but i've always understood them to be very warm in temps like you describe. I certainly would wager that they are a LOT warmer than the 302's. I have the 300's and don't wear them when it gets much under 20F. They simply aren't warm enough for a one to two hour ride.
Intheloonybin
01-29-08, 02:22 PM
Thanks portis.
They are older sorrels, but they were not warm for riding. I'll try more socks on the way home and see how I fare.
The whacked thing is that up till now, I've been riding in my summer Lake mtn bike shoes with covers over them, wool socks, and hand warmers on top of my toes. This has taken me down to -5F comfortably, and -10F wishing I was at my destination about 3/4 of the way through the ride.
I know my lbs has re-chargeable undersole warmers that work well, but they are $300 and have a certain life expectancy based on how many re-charges they have. (sorry, don't remember how many)
So, $270 for boots that should last many seasons, or an electrical gadget that I am not sure of how many seasons you get.
I also like being clipped in. I did not care for the platforms today. I could probably live with it for the few days a year if need be, but would like something that covers warm and clipped in.
I wouldn't think it would be that hard to make the perfect boot.
Portis
01-29-08, 02:41 PM
I wouldn't think it would be that hard to make the perfect boot.
It wouldn't be. But they aren't trying to make boots. They are trying to make shoes. IOW, they take a cycling shoe and try and make it warm instead of taking a warm boot and making it into a cycling shoe. I suspect this is because a great deal of the cycling crowd are OCP (obsessive compulsive poseurs) who would not be caught dead cycling with something on that looks like a boot.
I don't give a crap what it looks like as long as it is warm. I think that is the exception rather than the rule. Regardless it is ultimately your call. I am not a fan of gizmos that go into shoes to keep the foot warm. You don't need them given the right footwear.
My warmest cycling shoes are size 12 Wolverine Thinsulate Hiking boots. I have been using them for years and they are big and wide and i can put a couple pair of heavy wool socks on and still have lots of wiggle room. I NEVER get cold feet with them.
Granted i have to use them with platforms but i'd rather have warm feet than clipless. On top of that most years i only have to wear them for a month or two.
tsl
01-29-08, 02:48 PM
I wore my trusty old Wolverines all last winter. Of the people I ride with, the only others who never had cold feet rode Lakes.
I bought a pair this year and have had no issues with the construction. I'm wondering if it's something with the size or something. I basically wear clown shoes--US size 13.5, EU size 48, and I wear the wide model.
biffstephens
01-29-08, 02:50 PM
I have some 2008's and I love them...I just looked at the heal and I dont see how they could come apart....they keep my feet warm that is for sure....I wish I could say the same thing for my hands...
:)
Intheloonybin
01-30-08, 09:37 AM
An update...
I bought the boots last night. My toes were painfully cold last night during the last 3 miles of my ride. Would have stopped if I was worried about frostbite though.
I wore them this morning for the ride with covers and a hand warmer on my toes. It was -15°F with a -30° to -35° windchill. My feet were very comfortable. I think I will stick with the warmers if it is that cold for now, until I can learn what I need at what temp.
Liked being able to be clipped in. Just preference. The guy at the shop threw in the spd cleats for me (even mounted them), and gave me a deal on some socks.
I wonder if they did not correct the newer boots. I don't see where these would come apart, but will keep an eye on them.
Thanks for your input! I appreciate it!
Oh, and my hands were warm too. Thin wicking gloves in some PI lobster mits.
Mazaev
01-30-08, 11:37 PM
Well, I finally got my shoes back after like 5 weeks. The BOA thing is good as new and the heels have been restitched. They said they would use better stitching, but to be honest, it doesn't look even particularly professional, what they did. Guess I'll just give it some time and see what happens.
bergjm
02-01-08, 11:18 AM
Well, I finally got my shoes back after like 5 weeks. The BOA thing is good as new and the heels have been restitched. They said they would use better stitching, but to be honest, it doesn't look even particularly professional, what they did. Guess I'll just give it some time and see what happens.
I decided to have my left boot/shoe heel restitched at a cobbler instead of waiting for the round trip to Lakes (took 5 minutes and $5). When he stitched it, he stitched it to the inside bootie, but when I run my fingers inside the other one doesn't feel like that stitching is attached to the bootie - the stitching that is inside the boot does not appear to be in the same spot as the heel stitching. When you got yours back, was the stitching attached to the inside of the bootie part?
Thanks.
John B.
jwbnyc
04-13-08, 12:52 AM
Well, it's at the end of the season. Just to update:
Re-sewed both heels. They haven't been a problem since.
The line on one of the Boa reels broke, even though it is steel cored.
I replaced both with 150lb. Spectra line. No problems since.
I kept the Boa adjustment tool on my keychain so that it would be handy when the mechanism needed tightening, which it did on a regular basis.
Overall, I'd give this shoe passing marks for overall design fit and warmth, and failing marks on quality. It's a good shoe once the bugs are ironed out - But - at the prices these go for one should not have to iron out anything especially when it's stuff that could be dealt with so easily.
Hopefully Lake will bump the QC up for next season.
vrkelley
04-13-08, 10:59 AM
Arriving at this party late ??? $300 bucks for boots that don't cut it - and NO MONEY BACK ?????? Wada rip! I'm keep'n my Northwaves @99.