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Old Fat Guy
11-21-07, 02:57 PM
Last year I bought a Rossin right before I left AZ for MI. It was pretty rough, but barely used. Six months later I've bought more bikes and something has to go, so I get to work on the Rossin.
Here's my problem. I've finished it (apart from some new skinwall tires), and I think I like it too much to sell. I haven't taken it for any long rides yet, but it seems awfully nice in the short 'round the block' spins. Caterham has pointed out that they are very nice bikes, if not an 'unforgettable' ride.
So what to do? Send it to the bay in the Spring? Rossin's do not go for top dollar, it seems. Keep it and ? I have my De Rosa here in AZ, and a couple of nice bikes back in MI.
What do all of you think?
Here are the pictures:
http://lh6.google.com/A2UsedBikes/R0SfLpRb8ZI/AAAAAAAAAfk/YwOb6M4SajE/s800/PB211095.JPG
http://lh6.google.com/A2UsedBikes/R0SfOpRb8aI/AAAAAAAAAfs/igtEuXu1ck8/s800/PB211096.JPG
http://lh4.google.com/A2UsedBikes/R0SfYJRb8dI/AAAAAAAAAgI/58dQ0Q7hWBc/s800/PB211101.JPG
http://lh4.google.com/A2UsedBikes/R0SfbJRb8eI/AAAAAAAAAgQ/vBTaRUwNr9c/s800/PB211102.JPG
http://lh3.google.com/A2UsedBikes/R0Sfd5Rb8fI/AAAAAAAAAgY/LYR9fPOfX-Y/s800/PB211103.JPG
http://lh3.google.com/A2UsedBikes/R0Sfj5Rb8hI/AAAAAAAAAgo/3wFN_ffwsX8/s800/PB211105.JPG
http://lh3.google.com/A2UsedBikes/R0Sfg5Rb8gI/AAAAAAAAAgg/PUFbyzSWfB8/s800/PB211104.JPG
Lamplight
11-21-07, 03:03 PM
Hey, if I knew what to tell you I wouldn't have 4 bikes in my bedroom, 6 in the living room, and 5 in the "dining" room. :D Honestly, that is a beautiful bike and I doubt I'd be able to part with it either.
cyclotoine
11-21-07, 03:27 PM
I wouldn't part with it. It's beautiful, the pantoed parts and all... I vote keep it. It's everything I want my Faggin to be, but isn't. I might change the pedal for campy SL, but that's about it.
First thing I would do is shorten those brake cable housings.
Hard to say on selling it. Bikes like that are tough, because they do ride great, and usually get ridden more than rarer bikes in the stable. But they don't have the total coolness factor that makes you want to keep it even if you don't need it. Usually something new will show up down the line that you want and then it will be easy to let this one go.
FWIW, it's looks like a great size (54cm?) and I think would actually do pretty well on ebay.
it sucks...but you know you're gonna make more if you break it up...
Wino Ryder
11-21-07, 03:54 PM
GAAWD what a beautiful bike
You best keep that baby, I dont care if Rossins' go for top dollar or not. That bike is gorgeous
Old Fat Guy
11-21-07, 04:04 PM
First thing I would do is shorten those brake cable housings.
Hard to say on selling it. Bikes like that are tough, because they do ride great, and usually get ridden more than rarer bikes in the stable. But they don't have the total coolness factor that makes you want to keep it even if you don't need it. Usually something new will show up down the line that you want and then it will be easy to let this one go.
FWIW, it's looks like a great size (54cm?) and I think would actually do pretty well on ebay.
Yeah, the housings are a bit long, but I've found it easier to shorten them than lengthen them, and I just wanted to take it for a ride for now. I have a set of original Campy cables, but thought the White would look better than the Campy Grey.
Yes it is a 54cm.
I might change the pedal for campy SL, but that's about it.
Those are some Shimano 600s I had laying around. I'll probably put some Dura Ace pedals on it, those are my favorites., unless someone has some Campy SL or SRs they aren't using ;)
First thing I would do is shorten those brake cable housings.
Hard to say on selling it. Bikes like that are tough, because they do ride great, and usually get ridden more than rarer bikes in the stable. But they don't have the total coolness factor that makes you want to keep it even if you don't need it. Usually something new will show up down the line that you want and then it will be easy to let this one go.
FWIW, it's looks like a great size (54cm?) and I think would actually do pretty well on ebay.
The next thing I'd do is stop by the local electrical supply house and get some white electrical tape to replace that gawd awful black stuff you have on that nice white bar tape.
Then I'd ride the ell out of it. :)
Bikedued
11-21-07, 06:33 PM
White saddle, bare aluminum stem, and keep it!!!,,,,BD
Old Fat Guy
11-21-07, 08:04 PM
Heck, I'm still looking for a white saddle for my De Rosa, and dump the panto black stem? I don't think so!
Aside from the defect length brake housings, I'd keep the look.
Yes, you must sell it.....to me.
:D
of course, you also need:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-Campagnolo-Super-Record-Rossin-Panto-Shifters_W0QQitemZ190175189582QQihZ009QQcategoryZ27950QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
before you can call it complete, no?
Old Fat Guy
11-21-07, 11:00 PM
of course, you also need:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-Campagnolo-Super-Record-Rossin-Panto-Shifters_W0QQitemZ190175189582QQihZ009QQcategoryZ27950QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
before you can call it complete, no?
Those come up all the time. Rossin and pantograph go hand in hand.
I ride all my bikes, that's too much $$ for friction shifters.
I'm not one of those OCP guys, or whatever you call them.
Road Fan
11-21-07, 11:16 PM
Yeah, the housings are a bit long, but I've found it easier to shorten them than lengthen them, and I just wanted to take it for a ride for now. I have a set of original Campy cables, but thought the White would look better than the Campy Grey.
Yes it is a 54cm.
Those are some Shimano 600s I had laying around. I'll probably put some Dura Ace pedals on it, those are my favorites., unless someone has some Campy SL or SRs they aren't using ;)
Hey, Old Fat! Really nice bike, I would be having trouble, too!
Put on come C-record platform pedals, you'll like them!
Road Fan
Old Fat Guy
11-21-07, 11:32 PM
Hey, Old Fat! Really nice bike, I would be having trouble, too!
Put on come C-record platform pedals, you'll like them!
Road Fan
Don't you have pair of those you're not riding?
stringbreaker
11-22-07, 12:00 AM
Gee if it was my size I'd take it off your hands in a heartbeat (for the right price of course )
Gary Fountain
11-22-07, 02:00 AM
NICE!!! I know that I couldn't sell it. MI in the summer, PHX in the winter, perhaps you could re-locate to another State in the fall and have the Rossin there.
What do all of you think?
Its said that having two houses is like having two wives. Which from experience I can confirm is certainly true.
The upside is that with two houses you get to have twice as much stuff. Including bikes.
Nuff said?
East Hill
11-22-07, 07:31 AM
I ride all my bikes...I'm not one of those OCP guys, or whatever you call them.
Are you certain you've ridden that bike? I don't think I've ever seen anything quite that clean and shiny before :p .
I'm voting with the 'keep it' crowd. I think you've got a crowd pleaser there.
East Hill
Bikedued
11-22-07, 07:38 AM
Phoenix in the Summer is NO place for bike riding, lol. I tried on several occasions while I was there. Felt like riding into an open oven set on 350*. Winter might be okay, on the other hand,,,,BD
Trolley Guy
11-22-07, 07:45 AM
If that was my bike, it would remain my bike! It's beautiful. :)
Old Fat Guy
11-23-07, 05:06 PM
Here's the bike it is replacing, if I can bear to sell it!
http://picasaweb.google.com/A2UsedBikes/Guerciotti
http://lh4.google.com/A2UsedBikes/R0dodZRb8lI/AAAAAAAAAiY/3Ghf_xzEyEQ/s800/PB231115.JPG
http://lh4.google.com/A2UsedBikes/R0dojZRb8nI/AAAAAAAAAio/LJ8w0BM46Cg/s800/PB231117.JPG
http://lh6.google.com/A2UsedBikes/R0dop5Rb8pI/AAAAAAAAAi4/8herlHMGeDc/s800/PB231119.JPG
http://lh6.google.com/A2UsedBikes/R0dos5Rb8qI/AAAAAAAAAjA/fbxbX22Bc0I/s800/PB231120.JPG
http://lh5.google.com/A2UsedBikes/R0dovpRb8rI/AAAAAAAAAjI/YUKXZk-NdCQ/s800/PB231121.JPG
cyclotoine
11-23-07, 05:46 PM
OFG, I wouldn't have to think twice about selling the Guerciotti in order to justify the Rossin.
caterham
11-23-07, 05:56 PM
OFG, I wouldn't have to think twice about selling the Guerciotti in order to justify the Rossin.
gotta agree- gooches got their rep in no small measure for their georgeous ,elegant lugwork ,cutouts and classic lines. yours is a post golden era model and a butt fugly 2 tone fade 80's version at that. (not that there's anything wrong with that).
;)
k
Old Fat Guy
11-23-07, 06:04 PM
Thanks, Jerry!
caterham
11-23-07, 06:35 PM
Thanks, Jerry!
what?!!! don't I get a thank you, too? lol
best,
k
cyclotoine
11-23-07, 06:37 PM
what?!!! don't I get a thank you, too? lol
best,
k
I don't get it, I thought maybe you were Jerry but was confused because you signed "k".
Old Fat Guy
11-23-07, 06:49 PM
Jerry, as in Seinfeld..."Not that there's anything wrong with that"
Season 4, The Outing.
cyclotoine
11-23-07, 06:52 PM
got it! doh, of course.
caterham
11-23-07, 06:52 PM
doh!#*
fx-(sound of swooshing over my head)
Old Fat Guy
11-24-07, 06:25 PM
OFG, I wouldn't have to think twice about selling the Guerciotti in order to justify the Rossin.
The Guerciotti is actually a decent ride, very quick handling. In spite of having an 80's paint job, the colors go well in AZ. The chrome fork and chrome stays are a nice touch. The Modolo levers are more comfortable than Campagnolo, and the Supurbe Pro brakes work remarkably well.
I may end up selling both bikes in the early Spring. I may end up keeping all of them, if I can afford to.
I'm still learning at this, but I can tell a distinct difference between all the bikes I own. The De Rosa is, by far, my favorite. The Rossin appeals to me in a different way, it seems very solid. The Guerciotti seems more like a 'go fast' bike, not all that dissimilar to my Cinelli. I'm looking forward to restoring my Merckx in the Spring, and hope it is more like the De Rosa. I'm also going to look at a Mondonico Monday, but with modern components.
I think I may be a junkie.
Road Fan
11-24-07, 06:56 PM
Don't you have pair of those you're not riding?
No, I have a C-record on the Mondonico, and a Chorus on the Woodrup, and both sets of pedals just told me I'd have a big problem on the road if I even thought about moving them, poor dears!
It's terrible when your bike parts get to have mind of their own!
that's all the Campy I got - well not counting the Superleggeras on the Masi.
Road Fan
Road Fan
11-24-07, 06:58 PM
Are you certain you've ridden that bike? I don't think I've ever seen anything quite that clean and shiny before :p .
I'm voting with the 'keep it' crowd. I think you've got a crowd pleaser there.
East Hill
East Hill, Old Fat has bikes that he rides regularly that look better than new!
Road Fan
Road Fan
11-24-07, 07:02 PM
The Guerciotti is actually a decent ride, very quick handling. In spite of having an 80's paint job, the colors go well in AZ. The chrome fork and chrome stays are a nice touch. The Modolo levers are more comfortable than Campagnolo, and the Supurbe Pro brakes work remarkably well.
I may end up selling both bikes in the early Spring. I may end up keeping all of them, if I can afford to.
I'm still learning at this, but I can tell a distinct difference between all the bikes I own. The De Rosa is, by far, my favorite. The Rossin appeals to me in a different way, it seems very solid. The Guerciotti seems more like a 'go fast' bike, not all that dissimilar to my Cinelli. I'm looking forward to restoring my Merckx in the Spring, and hope it is more like the De Rosa. I'm also going to look at a Mondonico Monday, but with modern components.
I think I may be a junkie.
What would Jeff Foxworthy say, "yew just might be a bike junkie"
Old Fat Guy
11-24-07, 07:47 PM
Road Fan, you are much too kind.
My bikes are all riders, but I try to take pictures when they are polished and hopefully have clean bar tape.
You have a pretty darn nice collection yourself, Im sure the folks here would love to see some pictures of your stable.
PS---Did you see Matt's Colnago? It's your size ;)
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