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NY Times Ethicist Randy Cohen weighs in on the ethics of urban transportation
Randy Cohen, who spends most of his day analyzing right and wrong as the New York Times Magazine’s acclaimed “Ethicist,” turns out to be one of New York City’s most captivating and articulate voices for Livable Streets.
Interview produced by Streetfilms in association with The Open Planning Project
http://www.streetfilms.org/archives/transportation-ethics/ (http://www.streetfilms.org/archives/...tation-ethics/)
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All I got was a 404 error. Page not found.
All I got was a 404 error. Page not found.
Looks like the forum abbreviated his URL for some inexplicable reason. Try:
www.streetfilms.org/archives/Transportation-ethics/ (http://www.streetfilms.org/archives/Transportation-ethics/)
thanks mr. underbridge!
yes, that is it:
http://www.streetfilms.org/archives/transportation-ethics/
what an absolutely excellent and inspiring film!
When I lived in manhattan I didn't own a car. If I needed to take trips out of the city to places the train/bus didn't go, I'd rent a car.
And I never felt freer than when I dropped off the rental car at the end of the trip (usually to the W 76th St location of Avis or Hertz).
Unfortunate fact of life now where I live I do need a car. But I bike as much as I can, commute by bike. Especially in summer when I have errands and shopping to do it's even quicker by bike, and much more relaxing and enjoyable.
thanks for watching!
yeah, car ownership in manhattan is something i don't understand too well... perhaps this video will inspire people to give a little bit of thought to the larger implications of driving in the city.
thanks for watching!
yeah, car ownership in manhattan is something i don't understand too well... perhaps this video will inspire people to give a little bit of thought to the larger implications of driving in the city.
Nor do I understand it. I love to visit boston by taking the train from providence or springfield mass, into south station. There I am, eating a bagel and reading the newspaper to start the day, without a car to worry about parking/driving, the whole city to see on foot or using the T, and saving money and energy to boot. My whole point of LIVING in a city would be to be carless.
Out here in the boonies its a mix of auto, motorcycle and bicycle. I actually prefer to walk if I can...have NOTHING to worry about.'
roughstuff
thanks for watching!
yeah, car ownership in manhattan is something i don't understand too well... perhaps this video will inspire people to give a little bit of thought to the larger implications of driving in the city.
The problem with Manhattan is not the private automobile. While it would be great if they weren't there, the largest number of vehicles are taxies and private limos. The city is making MILLIONS off these taxis which is why the traffic is horrendous. There are far too many taxies on the street and the situation will never get better because congestion charge will only decrease the private autos which are the minority already.
The problem with Manhattan is not the private automobile. While it would be great if they weren't there, the largest number of vehicles are taxies and private limos. The city is making MILLIONS off these taxis which is why the traffic is horrendous. There are far too many taxies on the street and the situation will never get better because congestion charge will only decrease the private autos which are the minority already.
Taxis and limos are a form of public transportation, though obviously not the ideal form.
Also, having lived ten years in manhattan I find it very hard to believe that there are more cabs/limos than private cars. In fact the side streets of Manhattan (not to mention Queens and Brooklyn) are jam packed with parked private cars, and the streets are packed with private cars from New Jersey, Ct and other places outside the city -- often from places where a pedestrian culture is absolutely alien -- as well as from other parts of NY.
I think Bloomburg's concept of putting in congestion pricing is absolutely genius. People driving private cars in Manhattan are imposing a huge externality on people who live there and there's absolutely no reason they shouldn't have to pay for that. As the video very accurately depicts -- for anyone who has actually been a pedestrian in any of the areas portrayed in that video or in others on that site -- the current setup is hugely stacked in favor of cars and against pedestrians. It's time to turn the tables, get the priorities right, and make the city work for pedestrians, and yes, cyclists.
The video is right on in its view of cars. And I say this as someone who now lives in a place where having a car is unavoidable.
One does not have to be an automobile-basher to admit that traffic and its externalities of noise, heat island effect, congestion, and smog, are arguably the worst bane of urban core living. An internal combustion powered 2-ton vehicle is simply not an economical, efficient, or environmentally reasonable fit to dense city driving. Plug-hybrids are coming and will help, but they won't address congestion.
NY Times Ethicist Randy Cohen weighs in on the ethics of urban transportation
Randy Cohen, who spends most of his day analyzing right and wrong as the New York Times Magazine’s acclaimed “Ethicist,” turns out to be one of New York City’s most captivating and articulate voices for Livable Streets.
Interview produced by Streetfilms in association with The Open Planning Project
http://www.streetfilms.org/archives/transportation-ethics/ (http://www.streetfilms.org/archives/...tation-ethics/)
(I hope no one minds that I've created this thread in two different forums... it's quite appropriate both here and in "Living Car-Free"!)
Thanks for sharing this film. The points Mr. Cohen makes are so simple and true like the abuse of placards for parking. When I first started commuting in Chicago in 87 it was in response to not having the wherewithal to obtain a car and being sick of public transportation I chose to cycle commute to my job. It was a truly life-revolution for me. Suddenly, the 'urban experience' opened up and I actually started to enjoy my life! Wasn't stuck on a bus 2-3 hours per day and got into some of the best health of my life. Learned some mechanical skills I otherwise would have never attempted. Why anyone would want to have a car in Manhattan is quite beyond me. The slow realization of the tyranny of the individual automobile is becoming increasingly a topic of conversation. I find people asking me all sorts of questions about utility cycling, commuting, etc in all kinds of random situations. Post office, grocery store, bank, library, at traffic lights! Theses things would NEVER happen as little as 2 years ago, but I'm having them all the time now.
Have read several of your posts and have become a bit of a fan of your Threads...not to glad hand you, but when I see your name as the 'starter' I always check them out right away because I know it's either going to be painfully funny or painfully true. You're like the 'thinking man's' Ninja commuter. :p Thanks again.
... When I first started commuting in Chicago in 87 it was in response to not having the wherewithal to obtain a car and being sick of public transportation I chose to cycle commute to my job. It was a truly life-revolution for me. Suddenly, the 'urban experience' opened up and I actually started to enjoy my life! Wasn't stuck on a bus 2-3 hours per day and got into some of the best health of my life. Learned some mechanical skills I otherwise would have never attempted. Why anyone would want to have a car in Manhattan is quite beyond me. The slow realization of the tyranny of the individual automobile is becoming increasingly a topic of conversation. I find people asking me all sorts of questions about utility cycling, commuting, etc in all kinds of random situations. ...
I would make the same observation regarding my young married starving grad student years, when my wife and I lived about 2 km south of UCLA, in car-happy west Los Angeles. Anyone who has ever driven around Wilshire and Westwood Bls. during "rush" (gotta love that term :) ) hour or who has needed to find a parking space on or near the UCLA campus will quickly realize why we did not buy our first car until we were both 26 years old and buying our first house. Even then, because I commuted via public transit, on foot, and by bicycle, we got by very nicely for several years as a one-car family.
I would make the same observation regarding my young married starving grad student years, when my wife and I lived about 2 km south of UCLA, in car-happy west Los Angeles. Anyone who has ever driven around Wilshire and Westwood Bls. during "rush" (gotta love that term :) ) hour or who has needed to find a parking space on or near the UCLA campus will quickly realize why we did not buy our first car until we were both 26 years old and buying our first house. Even then, because I commuted via public transit, on foot, and by bicycle, we got by very nicely for several years as a one-car family.
Funny, I first got into cycling commuting when I moved from NYC to Palo Alto. In NYC I relied totally on subway, buses and walking. When we moved to Calif everyone said we'd have to have a car. But we managed on bikes, even with a one-year old. I loved it, being totally car free, and biking everywhere we needed to go.
When we moved here (finger lakes upstate ny) we finally had to buy our first car -- first car for both of us -- at the age of 35. But since my commute is very bikeable I've been doing it on and off since we got here. The stuff here at BF, including threads like this one, others in commuting, and in winter cycling, have really inspired me to continue my bike commuting through the entire winter this year.
NY Times Ethicist Randy Cohen weighs in on the ethics of urban transportation
Randy Cohen, who spends most of his day analyzing right and wrong as the New York Times Magazine’s acclaimed “Ethicist,” turns out to be one of New York City’s most captivating and articulate voices for Livable Streets.
I just saw this short film and thought it was just great; deserving of a bump!
http://www.streetfilms.org/archives/transportation-ethics/
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