Electric Bikes - currie scooter motors

hey guys will those currie scooter motors run just as well on an ebike?is there any reason not to use them on a currie ebike i cant see what difference it would make and maybe they will even go faster on an ebike yes no?

i am still chasing up parts and batteries i decided to go for nimh packs,so far i have only got to buying extra cases to fit in those currie racks $60 each i got two more and will make a 28 volt 10ah pack.hopfulley 3 of them,man parts in sydney are like hens teeth very hard to find and the internet well that cost alot in frieght but i guess thats the only way i am gunna get anything

www.youtube.com/luc59457 (http://www.youtube.com/luc59457)

Dave Karma Youspeed1911, good people don't put down good people, bad ethics. You brag about your loosy 6 sales and you don't even have half of the views I have ON JUST 1 Of my Videos, given you put all your videos TOGETHER lmao!! Also your videos are garbage compared to ours. Are you afraid to show people all the copies of other peoples work that you are doing? IS that why you disable comments, disable channel comments, etc, and make your videos with low light. AND MOREOVER, you would have NEVER in your life accomplished our crank freewheel system if it wasn't for us, A-hole! Why because thats what you really are lmao! Show some appriciation towards the people who made you make money, when the invention is not even yours, stealer. We give people good and honest information and you make bad out of it, GREAT JOB YOUR THE MAN, and how old are you? You look twice my age in your videos. Also Youspeed1911 Karma, this forum is named: Currie scooter motors, and you come in here talking about your hub, desperation much? Your getting it from someone half your age bud! I'm not desperate for hits, I get them in an honest way. If anyone wants to see youspeeds videos you can go to: http://www.youtube.com/youspeed1911 (http://www.youtube.com/user/youspeed1911) he still has some interesting good video. BTW youspeed1911 because I wrote that proves I will never sink to your level. Keep being selfish it suits you. If you want me to remove these messages, you should remove the insulting comments you made especially after selling 6 of our freewheel system that we created. How much lower can you sink, lets see... BTW I believe your going to want to send me more spam after these honest messages - that annoy you.

Karma you haven't seen all the videos, there is front cams and even a road that says 60km/h and I am 5-10km/h from following the cars. There is even a cam that shows close-ups of the speedo

Check the site I stated above to see all the videos that karma unfortunately didnt see

Currie just did 63km/h on 5th gear, flats no wind tonight. Couldn't believe how fast that little motor was going, 39miles/hr! On The videos we took it was all 1-4th gear. Too bad we didn't have the camera handy.. =( That was with a 170lbs rider! This is seriously the fastest motor of its cost! www.youtube.com/luc59457/
We are hoping others try our system to further prove all our tests true.
Luc
Hey Karma, long time no chat =) I remember talking to you in a forum almost a year ago. What bike do you ride?

hey karma judging from the crank arm...you have a kranked bike?
i just picked one up near mint 6 weeks old with reciept for $100
how much would you charge me to replicate your freewheel setup?
how many a123's do you think could fit in the triangle thats left?
thx

This is a very interesting project karma and Luc. I find the idea of the motor being used with all the speeds of the bike very interesting. I ordered the parts for it just in case.

Do you think the original ct izip crank and pedal can be modified for this set up? Would there be a substantial difference?

Thanks, I imagine the pedal arms are steel too. Everything else on the bike is steel.

I wouldn't want to have pants caught in there at 40+ km/hr too. I was thinking of sheet metal for the chain guard. Easy to bend (after making a template) and color match the paint to the bike's colour. I was also thinking about covering the triangle on both side for a better looks and stealth as long as enough air enters the front to cool the motor.

great pics karma keep em coming
btw the first thing i did to my kranked bike
was remove all decals and reflectors even blacked
out white writing on derailer and crank arms...

its alive :)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bgiStolBI0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lcUYRHDudk

the motor chain and tenchener are finished. i found a use for the old pocketbike calipers :)



:roflmao2:


and it looks fasstt...

are you planning any susp upgrades?
i was thinking of using a 24" on back
and using custom pivot brackets for
new rear shock

there great for project motors you should have no problem using them on any bicycle.

even a scooter like ebike. faster? sure if you up the voltage :)

I like your conversion. My brother has been asking about the possibility of making a multigeared off road bike for camping. I think your bike would work better than a single speed hub motor.

Yes, if I could get all that electric power working for me in the bush, I might sell my ATV, and buy a lightweight generator for the camper. It would be a good way to merge my lazy hobbies with some light exercise.

I'm sure this has been asked before, but where did you get the freewheeling front crank? I'd like to find a good online store for things like this. it would be great for planning a project.

thanks Karma!

Thanks all. It's truely great to see people in here interested in our freewheel crank system. If anyone would like a detailed walkthrough of it you can find it through:www.youtube.com/luc59457 It is similar to cyclones however, if you use the cyclone freewheel you will not get the options of ratio that we can achieve with our system because cyclones minimum bike sprocket is 36 tooth. Ours is 22. This is extremely important if using the 36v currie 1000w. The cyclone freewheel system is really only meant for it's couterparts however, it is possible to add another pitched sprocket to it (for slower rpm 1+hp motors - best choice)

Here is a quick gearing course:
Our freewheel system with the ratio we have currently is "borderline" 5.333:1 - The motor overheats on "intense" accellerations and high speeds (50k+) constant in about 5 minutes.. The first ratios we attempted was even more straineous on the motor. Our first motor lasted only 320kms because of this! There is a thermal shutdown when the motor gets too hot and a shutdown when the batteries get low. At this ratio you should have no thermal shutdowns at speeds up to 45km/h cruise, under 170lbs rider, and not forcing uphills (1st gears). You can still boot it safely for around 30 seconds at a time, split evenely several times throughout the ride. The more you boot it, the faster your batteries die! It's another Hawg. Use good batteries. Ours are good, but minimum. It will kill your batteries if you desire, so be smart and still have fun! Also this freewheel ratio will be fine for motors with same torque at 2500rpms and less. Our ratio could still be adjusted a bit (because of the 2600rpms)but smaller bike sprockets and bigger #25 sprockets than us are less common and most likely will be more trouble to install. The currie 36v 1000w spins at 2600rpm 1+hp. Be sure to grease up your freewheel both sides often, to stop moisture and dirt, otherwise get a cover! Enjoy ps: Make sure you build it alone! or you will be fighting over who will ride first! =) Luc 59457

http://tncscooters.com/product.php?sku=103210 (http://tncscooters.com/product.php?sku=103210)
http://tncscooters.com/product.php?sku=103240 (http://tncscooters.com/product.php?sku=103240)

http://tncscooters.com/partsdb.php?type=ES (http://tncscooters.com/partsdb.php?type=ES)

Hey Karma, how's the bike since you put your freewheel crank. Have you taken it for a spin. Any good/bad things to share about the exercise/experiment??

btw, as I can see it, I'll only need the clutch and the 65 tooth sprocket, right? Once welded, I am further guessing that the sprocket that was at the pedals will also stay there? right. So as to have a sprocket going to rear cassette and the other sprocket attached to motor.

Am I guessing this right?

TIA

:)

so far so good i took it for a ride in the parking lot it works but i need to make the crank ratio
even smaller or the motor will overheat.

its about the same as the cyclone kit, the chainrings on the crank freewheel. pedal to get some speed hit the gas and go :)

Yes, that's what stumping me also with my motor replacement of the izip bike. I'm using a tnc motor without gear reduction and it's much harder to figure the ratio. I'm told it could be as high as 1 to 9.

My motor has 11 teeth and the sprocket has 44 and it's not enough. Like you, the motor heats like a biaatch. Geared motors are much easier to deal with.

Btw, I went to cyclone usa and they sell the crank, the extender, all the kit separate to install a cyclone motor, so that'll save some welding time etc... allthough I've also ordered the tnc parts you guys used to make the crank, so I'm setting up for the winter modding time. I have a warehouse to work from and when it doesn't snow(we're in snow removal) I'll just mod away most days.

So what size crank do you have now? Sounds like you'll need the 66tooth one.... or more?

:)

Still looks like ur bike gear needs to be smaller. Is it a 22 tooth yet? I just saw you were using the 500w motor. I pray you don't test drive it too long if you did. www.youtube.com/luc59457 (http://www.youtube.com/luc59457) What a dink youspeed karma. Common sense! You put a hub on chain drive.

well i gave it a go it works well but i find you need to upshift and downshift allot in stop in go traffic.

not a bad setup luc59457 but im still getting higher speeds from my overvolted hubmotor. well that and it just cant beat the TORCH of a hubmotor :)

So Your getting "a bit" more speeds, by raising your voltage on your hub (common sense) to only cost you alot more money, I guess your rich. With your hub down there I assume your using our freewheel system which also adds to your cost. unfortunately the currie is only meant to handle 36v. So what if you get a few more km per hour Out of a hub! Is it really worth it... considering you'll have more batteries to replace in all that time!? Ok maybe you'll buy lifep04 to counter that, but it's totally not worth it YET for people who want to save $ compared to how cheap sla's go for! This also takes into account the batterys $/lifetime. $38 each compared to a - +1000$ total for lifep04's. Another thing, I saw your gear ratio, you clearly didn't follow our last ratio. We do not have to change gears AT ALL from 0-45km/h. More torque than the hub as we have a hub e-bike at www.youtube.com/luc59457 (http://www.youtube.com/luc59457) with the same voltage to test this. The currie has almost DOUBLE the take-OFF. Next, a hub kit usually goes for more $ than the currie we use. This motor makes the Hub a lousy deal. Learn your facts Youspeed1911 or known as Karma. Or are you simply looking for attention, the bad kind.

Obviously youspeed you are not helping people save money!

We also used the 1000w I remember you were using the 500w, did you change it yet karma?

Duracutter and Karma, you'll want to use the 80 tooth #22 sprocket and a 22tooth bike sprocket max. if using the currie 1000w we used. Lower ratios will burn the motor, higher ratios than what I stated will be better for torque and - reduced heat for this motor. Like I said in my videos, the last ratio is borderline

Karma, people won't be so thankful if you teach them the wrong things. You do not have to change gears much with this motor if you would have done it right. www.youtube.com/luc59457 (http://www.youtube.com/luc59457). 1st goes to 45k which is plenty for most and as you can see through my latest videos, lots of accellerations from the start. Stop taking credit on the freewheel unless your here to do it right Karma. I don't care if you help people, but don't end up costing people $$$!

You'll never get the speed karma that we get out of a 36v hub, don't care what you say youspeed, i know the facts. Karma, I can see you like to copy others ideas and sell them, GREAT JOb, YOUR THE man!

So if people want to save money, let them!
Also read Karma's response below this, you can go to my channel after and see that karma likes to copy my information. www.youtube.com/luc59457 (http://www.youtube.com/luc59457) You can see he copied all my prices, when I already give you the facts on my channel. WHat a breakthrough karma! Karma claimed: ok just for you i did the math... Actually those facts were taken from my channel, obvious. That is actually my math, thanks for copying again, EXPOSED!

lol trust me im not taking any credit on this one ;) your da man big guy:roflmao2:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4uqoAnGkB4

ok just for you i did the math

motor $109.99
controller cheap 1200watt $59.99
spocket $15.99
sla x3 $38 each
free wheel procket $8.99
chain $9.99

$321.99 before taxes u.s
http://www.monsterscooterparts.com/

and dont forget the extra's bolts nuts.

i dont do it to save people money, i do it because i enjoy working with electronics. i just dont charge for my time its a hobby.

cheers

old ratio or the new one i wonder nice vid :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAREIR_k4q0

your now up to $431.98

yuck the snow is here. o well mod time :)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRqvEud_sxQ


cheers

We don't charge for the time, we charge for the product, just like you would.
There you go again with your estimates lacking facts such as where to buy. Oh and those prices have been on my channel before you posted them here, so no, you didn't do much math. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ls1K8LSvf_E I already did the math for you buddy. Look I already tried to help you with some advice on your youtube video's lacking light especially the ones of the freewheel mod. I can see that it is a hobby for you to steal.

Another fact you should know... We've had inquiries into our freewheel from cyclone customers because of wear issues. One claimed to have used 3 freewheels in only 100km. We've done over 650km distance and the freewheel is still strong. Also keep in mind it is taking the force of up to 2hp with this motor. www.youtube.com/luc59457 (http://www.youtube.com/luc59457) www.areaall.com (http://www.areaall.com)

Karma youspeed or dave, however you'd like to be called, I think your just being annoying. I obviously help save people money, yes at my own expense but i show videos WITH LIGHT so people can SEE what happens. How old are you? Nevermind, I don't want to know... Oh and thanks for the 10 irrelevant video spam responses on my youtube channel, your the man my favorite idol, hopefully you got something original for once . =) here this is for you http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mG8XP53t5o

enjoy the spam you Earned It for being annoying. anyway i enjoy this little spat its making me money.

more hits on my webpage more orders :) just mailed out six kranks this week, like i said your the man big guy :thumb:

welcome to the internet:lol:

Oh you think it works like that hey, You welcome to the internet. Karma. What you have just wrote exposes you and makes you look really bad, especially after you posted a video called the luc59457 mod which has been grabbed by search engines. Actually read what I'm saying buddy. Maybe I have been on the internet less than you but your jealousy is radiating through your response. FIRST of all, your the low life copier copy cat. Second of all, you have a poor channel with bad lighting, poor rating and don't even allow responses because your too scared of what people might say to you there. Third of all you said our system was a flop, the only system that was a flop was your own. Ours is working great, and yes because we spent a bit more we can help save others by not making errors we built this so we know best. BTW Karma, sorry if the truth is annoying to you, it usually is, I hope you sleep at night =)

Also I think your a very poor lier to say the freewheel was a flop when you CLAIM you sold 6, poor customers!

What is it a flop or a success dave? If you sold 6 that proves it was a success, make up your mind, I think your loosing it. Stop being jealous KARMA Youspeed1911 and stop being a baby. All your doing is stealing ideas to make money thats not right. Everyone will get to read this and it will tarnish your name. You will loose hits, you will be exposed.

Dave Karma Youspeed1911, good people don't put down good people, bad ethics. You brag about your loosy 6 sales and you don't even have half of the views I have ON JUST 1 Of my Videos, given you put all your videos TOGETHER lmao!! Also your videos are garbage compared to ours. Are you afraid to show people all the copies of other peoples work that you are doing? IS that why you disable comments, disable channel comments, etc, and make your videos with low light. AND MOREOVER, you would have NEVER in your life accomplished our crank freewheel system if it wasn't for us, A-hole! Why because thats what you really are lmao! Show some appriciation towards the people who made you make money, when the invention is not even yours, stealer. We give people good and honest information and you make bad out of it, GREAT JOB YOUR THE MAN, and how old are you? You look twice my age in your videos. Also Youspeed1911 Karma, this forum is named: Currie scooter motors, and you come in here talking about your hub, desperation much? Your getting it from someone half your age bud! I'm not desperate for hits, I get them in an honest way. If anyone wants to see youspeeds videos you can go to: http://www.youtube.com/youspeed1911 (http://www.youtube.com/user/youspeed1911) he still has some interesting good video. BTW youspeed1911 because I wrote that proves I will never sink to your level. Keep being selfish it suits you. If you want me to remove these messages, you should remove the insulting comments you made especially after selling 6 of our freewheel system that we created. How much lower can you sink, lets see... BTW I believe your going to want to send me more spam after these honest messages - that annoy you. Oh and 1 more thing, you should be carefull what you sell, we're already in the process to patent our freewheel and we have significant proof that we made it. And once our patent pending goes through, you'll have to stop selling our idea so be nice! You're making money on our idea! as a conclusion No more biggering from both sides.

Dave Karma Youspeed1911, good people don't put down good people, bad ethics. You brag about your loosy 6 sales and you don't even have half of the views I have ON JUST 1 Of my Videos, given you put all your videos TOGETHER lmao!! Also your videos are garbage compared to ours. Are you afraid to show people all the copies of other peoples work that you are doing? IS that why you disable comments, disable channel comments, etc, and make your videos with low light. AND MOREOVER, you would have NEVER in your life accomplished our crank freewheel system if it wasn't for us, A-hole! Why because thats what you really are lmao! Show some appriciation towards the people who made you make money, when the invention is not even yours, stealer. We give people good and honest information and you make bad out of it, GREAT JOB YOUR THE MAN, and how old are you? You look twice my age in your videos. Also Youspeed1911 Karma, this forum is named: Currie scooter motors, and you come in here talking about your hub, desperation much? Your getting it from someone half your age bud! I'm not desperate for hits, I get them in an honest way. If anyone wants to see youspeeds videos you can go to: http://www.youtube.com/youspeed1911 (http://www.youtube.com/user/youspeed1911) he still has some interesting good video. BTW youspeed1911 because I wrote that proves I will never sink to your level. Keep being selfish it suits you. If you want me to remove these messages, you should remove the insulting comments you made especially after selling 6 of our freewheel system that we created. How much lower can you sink, lets see... BTW I believe your going to want to send me more spam after these honest messages - that annoy you. Oh and 1 more thing, you should be carefull what you sell, we're already in the process to patent our freewheel and we have significant proof that we made it. And once our patent pending goes through, you'll have to stop selling our idea so be nice! You're making money on our idea! as a conclusion No more biggering from both sides.

Holy smokes, can you guys keep it down! Btw, to what post are you replying? If it's somewhere else luc, can you keep it there...pleaaaaase. It's polluting the board with this cat fight...

Keep it to bikes, not personal insults...I'm sure others are getting tired of this show...


Thanks luc and good luck

:)

lol im in the middle of moving to hamilton. funny stuff.

cheers

Not so personal when someone brags about selling your idea and posts spam on your channel now is it. Unlike you I see first hand how old karma acts for his age. Don't bite the hand that feeds you. Any person who wants to make money out of my freewheel crank system like dave is doing, fine, don't go aside the topic of helping people, that's what these forums are for. Thats why I made my little conclusion not to you, but obviously u want to mix yourself in it so heres my conclusion to you. Duracutter it's not about polluting the forum. I really don't care if you take sides like you obviously are. I'm here to talk about the currie scooter motor and its related accessories which I use for this e-bike.

If you want to talk anymore aside the topic you can continue...

One thing you said that I appreciate, dura, Thanks

:deadhorse:

:deadhorse:

hahaha... yeah... :p