Classic & Vintage - Sorry all, another one needing some info on.
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11-29-07, 12:18 PM
This is for a friend's bike - a MBK Super Record. We did some digging around, but didn't find a whole lot on this particular model. Can anyone shed some more light on this model, possible value? Thank you in advance.
11-30-07, 01:05 AM
Sorry to report this but Robert Millar reported on, in an article in Cycle Sport magazine at the end of his career, his worst and best of everything cycling list: Best bike: Colnago; worst bike: MBK. He stated that MBK bikes were, "Made by Klingons. If you want to cruse the universe look no further, if you want to race (ride a Colnago)."
I have never ridden an MBK bike so I can't comment. I have also seen Sean Yates on an MBK. They obviously sponsored professional teams over the years.
Your friend's bike looks to have a Campagnolo Victory groupset which dates to around 1986/7. They were a pretty good groupset but were restricted by a crank spider PCD of 116mm. It was hard to source chainrings - but that wouldn't matter if the chainrings were in good condition and you weren't using it for intense training.
Being labelled 'Super Record', I would guess that the frame was made during the Campy Super Record era and the Columbus decal on the frame was used on Columbus SL tubing after 1978. There are 2 sets of biddon mounts which would suggest a mid 80's build. The top tubing (Columbus) in the mid 80's was Columbus SLX and most top-of-the-range racing bikes would have been built with SLX. Columbus SL was superseded but remains a very good frame material - I think it was actually lighter than SLX. The seat cluster pinch bolt looks to be in an interesting position under the seat stays (if I am not mistaken). This is unusual and is an interesting feature.
The bike looks really nice. Forgetting David Millar's view, I would say that the bike looks like a pretty good racing machine.
Value??? I would guess at $500.
Best of luck,
11-30-07, 09:12 AM
I think the crankset on yours is Triomphe, not Victory. I picked up a similar MBK Grand Record frame set this Summer, primarily because it was fillet brazed. All the earlier GR I had seen were of lugged construction. It is very light for steel, 3.8 pounds for the bare frame without the fork.
Mine had the same chromed fork & a good Campagnolo headset. The Columbus sticker was on the seat tube but almost obliterated, appeared to be a generic type but hard to tell. The seller said my frame was a 1988 based on a magazine review he had found on the net somewhere(I couldn't find anything when I researched). Paint on mine was in poor condition so I had it powdercoated. So far, I have installed a new BB & crankset.
11-30-07, 10:08 AM
I think the crankset on yours is Triomphe, not Victory.
Yes, it is Triomphe. The Victory crank doesn't have the small flare outs from the end of the spider arms.
11-30-07, 10:27 AM
Those campy parts ain't worth a continental. I'd rate those parts to be funky like Huret. The frame looks like a beauty. Did you powder coat it? I sort of liked the original 80's funky paint scheme.
A revised component group will make that bike very nice and just as good as any modern day steel bike from the store. Please post pics of the final build.
11-30-07, 11:10 AM
That crank is definitely Triomphe, but I think that rear derailleur is Victory, and those shifters aren't Triomphe either, they look like Super Record to me.
11-30-07, 01:46 PM
Wow, thanks all. Very knowledgeable group here - I'm learning a lot lately :) Again, thanks - this totally helps.
Luis Ocana 1973
11-30-07, 02:45 PM
I've ridden quite a bit on an MBK in France but i didn't realize they were sold in America after Moto morphed into MBK.
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