Classic & Vintage - Help with reserve price

I have a 1985 Pinarello Treviso Im going to be listing on ebay and I wanted to get some opinions on what I should set the reserve and BIN prices at.
Some details
55.9cm BB-TT
54cm SeatT-HT
Derailleurs: Dura Ace
Shifters: Dura Ace
Brake Levers and Callipers: Dura Ace
Bar and Stem: Cinelli stem length 110
Crankset: Dura Ace 170mm
Campy Headset
Campy Hubs on Mavic Rims
I picked this bike up a few weeks ago from a local collector and have been battling back and forth over to keep it or to sell it. At one point I listed it then backed out of the sale. I've since put a few hundred miles on it I have a few people very interested but I cant decide what to do.
There are a few superficial nicks but it is a great looking and even more a excellent riding bike.
What do you guys think
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Nice looking bike. If that's your daughter I think she's saying that'll fit her in about 14 years.

You might be able to get 700 or so out of it, depending on condition of the components, that's just my guess.

Do you need to sell it? Sounds like you're on the fence.

Keep it !!!
(If it's your size.)

You don't expect to get your hands on a better bike in the near future, do you!?

I've ridden it and its a great bike. Its about 1cm small but that can be compensated for i have a 110mm
Cinelli on there right now it originally had a 90mm and that kinda made the difference. I really am on the fence though we just bought a new house and we're doing projects and what not so a little extra $$ this time of year never hurts. I was thinking $600 reserve price and $750 BIN so sounds like i was on target

No reserve or B.I.N. Really.

I have been quite lucky selling selling Pinarellos on ebay, for the first treviso I sold ,I got over $1000 (super record, decals flacking badly) , the second, sold recently for $860 (campagnolo victory panto, decals replaced).The decals on yours are in excellent condition, but being equipped with shimano I think a buy it now of $750 , as you suggested , would be fair and the bike should go quickly. I would suggest that you only put a buy it now, no starting price, no reserve. People will just wait till the end to get a better deal when they could pay the $750. Just my opinion, I hope you will get what you want for it.

How about this Trek, I have about 15 bikes and decided to let go of a few of them.
I picked this trek upa while back from a yardsale for $30.
Any Idea what i could get for this through the Bay
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Skip the reserve and the BIN. I'd wait until late Feb to sell, if it were mine. The Shimano won't help the price, unless you find someone like me who loves that era DA.

If this is a spare, I say sell. If you don't have a nicer bike, what do you expect to be able to get for $6-800 that would be as nice? In that case


KEEP IT!

edit: saw you have 15 bikes, in that case , part it out, you'll make more $$$$

part it out, you'll make more $$$$

This is true.

Like individually? Components as a group or Everything by itself?

what do you guys think about the trek could I get $225

Everything by itself.

part it out and mail me the headbadge thx

what do you guys think about the trek could I get $225

Those rusty chips don't look so hot...

It's those little things that make people shifty.

I never put reserves. If you want to make money - start your bidding at 25 cents, with no reserve. If it's worth money - you'll get money for it. I've done all my auctions like this, and have almost never gotten less for something than I was expecting to get.

I never put reserves. If you want to make money - start your bidding at 25 cents, with no reserve. If it's worth money - you'll get money for it. I've done all my auctions like this, and have almost never gotten less for something than I was expecting to get.


Sometimes I think you're right. Reserve auctions might scare off a lot of people. I know from personal experience setting your start price high definitely will scare off a lot of people.

But, you have to know your market and the time of year to sell. I personally don't like to gamble, especially when it means putting money in ebay's pocket, less in mine and the winner keeping more in his/hers.

What scares me about what you said, is "almost".

Okay, so you have 15 bikes....what else ya got? If you're selling this, either it's your best bike, need the money for now, or there's some other awful good stuff hiding in the stable. Cmon....tell us.

I had a local offer for the Trek of $160 maybe Ill consider it a little.
As for the head bagde that would greatly decrease the frame value lol..but if I ever wreck it real bad its yours.
Ill probably just sell the whole thing I dont forsee myself wanting to ship like 20 boxes here there and everywhere.
I appreciate all the imput guys

Well for now Im just selling three
The Pinarello
The Trek And
My 1979 Raleigh Competition GS
This one has a lot of sentimental value to it. This was my first build up and she may not be the prettyest
bike on the block but shes definately one of my all time favoritesIm pretty sure its a 79 I bought the frame years back and built it up like I said the only thing stock is the headset.
it has a Shimano 600 Crankset, Shimano 600 Rear derailleur, Shimano Dura Ace downtube shifters, Shimano Dura Ace Front Derailleur, Campagnallo Headset,
Wolber 27" rims on Campy hubs, Tires are new 27" X 1" Performance Forte (K).
It has a Felt carbon Fiber Seat post, Shimano 105 Breal levers and Callipers. the paint is original few dings but nothing major.

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Sometimes I think you're right. Reserve auctions might scare off a lot of people. I know from personal experience setting your start price high definitely will scare off a lot of people.

But, you have to know your market and the time of year to sell. I personally don't like to gamble, especially when it means putting money in ebay's pocket, less in mine and the winner keeping more in his/hers.

What scares me about what you said, is "almost".

The only really dissapointing one was when I sold a Sachs Torpedo 3 speed coaster brake hub, shifter, and pulley, and only got $20 for it. I always figured that it was probably because people are more accustomed to Sturmey Archer and Shimano that not many people saw the auction. If it's rare - and esoteric that could justify putting a reserve on, since probably only a few people will know what they're looking for and what they want to buy. But if it's well known, and desirable - there's pretty much no reason to put a reserve on.

My current daily ride is a Colnago Master X-lite with full campy record Ill try to get some pics up tommorow.
I have 7 mountain bikes, i have a redline cyclocross bike as well and a early 90's Nishiki Altron TT bike

Honda that is a really sweet bike ---- good luck with the sale. Lp

Thanks

I haven't sold stuff on ebay for awhile because its getting harder to find and I'd rather have it if I need it, but I never had any luck with putting reserves on stuff. It'll find its own value.

Don't use a reserve. Use a BIN and high starting price the first listing. If it doesn't sell, use a lower starting price and slighly lower BIN the 2nd round. But reserve auctions are proven to attract fewer buyers.

I think Im pretty comfortable with this thing selling for what its worth. I think I may roll the dice and start it at $0.99 and see what happens. Is that to much of a gamble this time of year?

Sell now if you have to, but just before Christmas is not the best time to get the most money. Hold out until mid to late February if you can.

Honda, if you've got a 160 offer I'd take it. I've got an 85 Trek 400 - my first road bike - and it's been a great ride for 6 New York years now. Unfortunately these Treks seem to be underappreciated so I doubt you'd fetch more on Ebay...at least enough more to deal with the auction/shipping hassle over a cash buyer. Incidentally, I paid 150 for my "just-tuned-up" 400.

Love the Raleigh. Is it a 60cm?

Well good news and scary news I sold the trek for $220!

Scary news I have the Pinarello on ebay it has 12 hours left. I set a no reserve aution starting at $0.99
and with 12 hours left its only goin for $150 I might have made a HUGE mistake
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=110206063612&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT&ih=001

That's the fun of low start and no reserves. You'll get more than you should on one bike and [possibly] less than you should on another. It all works out over the long run if you sell a lot, though. You're up to $300+ with 8 hours left, and a lot of buyers wait until the last minute, so you're still OK.

I would have had the pictures on the page rather than a link, however. Your HTML was close but was lacking a height and width.

Wait until the last few seconds. The automated auction sniper services are usually set to bid within the final 3-5 seconds. 6 different bidders so far? You'll get full market value, at least for this time of year - though with highly desirable models, such as this, I don't really think the time of year makes a big difference.

Looks like you're going to do pretty good! Greetings from a former Rising Sun resident! (Corner of Cherry & Wilson.)

I think I saw that Raleigh on Craigslist. If it was any other time of year, you would have heard from me.

That's the fun of low start and no reserves. You'll get more than you should on one bike and [possibly] less than you should on another. It all works out over the long run if you sell a lot, though. You're up to $300+ with 8 hours left, and a lot of buyers wait until the last minute, so you're still OK.

I would have had the pictures on the page rather than a link, however. Your HTML was close but was lacking a height and width.

this html works fine...

<align="center"><img src="your image url"></align="center">
<br><br>
...repeat as often as necessary

I usually use that HTML I tried several others but they wouldn't work on the ebay site. i don't know if it wont let me put it on there because your supposed to pay for additional pics or what but that was the only way I could get it to work at all. Oh well, the last few hours should be a lot of fun watching and waiting and a whole lot of hitting the refresh button LOL

Hi Yogurt corner of wilson and cherry I used to get on the bus there years back. Like 20 years ago thats funny though small world. As for the Raleigh It didnt sell so look me up in the spring Ill give a ex local a great deal! Happy Holidays to you as well

You'll do well at $100 for the Trek, when Centurion tri-bikes are going for $125-$150.
The Pinarello, I'd start @ $500 for, and let the components sell it. .
The Raleigh is the question mark, could go for $250, could go for $800 to the right buyer.
On eBay, there's the measure of uncertainty, so let the pix and components be the key.

Figure the Trek will go to someone who'll strip it.
Figure the Pinarello will sell itself via the pictures.
Figure the Raleigh frame will need everything, but once done, a sweet ride w/that component package.

Be careful. A 2001 Trek 1000 Tiagra just failed to bring $20 opening, looked great in pix. Not sure why, but if it had brought $25, it was bound for sale and the seller would take a pounding.

Well good news and scary news I sold the trek for $220!

Scary news I have the Pinarello on ebay it has 12 hours left. I set a no reserve aution starting at $0.99
and with 12 hours left its only goin for $150 I might have made a HUGE mistake
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=110206063612&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT&ih=001

Well, you didn't listen to the sage advice here, and you paid the price. Sorry for you. Really.

Well you win some you lose some. Like i said the Trek went for $220 on CList last week the pinarello I kinda got raped on it only brought $485. oh well thats $800 for 2 bikes that if sold for what they should have sold for I woulda got $150 for the trek and was hoping for $700 for the pinarello so all in all i made out about right total wise.

wow bad math only $700 ouch

Don't sweat it Honda. These things seem to come back around. I got hosed on a Torelli imposter from Ebay but just found a Pinarello frame (under bad DIY paint) with a Campy front brake sitting with trash.