My 50mm tubular- Campagnolo were Paypal invoiced at $310 rather than the $290 I'd expected. I'm just going to wait for the next e-mail.

Same thing happens in the automotive world- 50 mm Tub, clincher, 38 mm clinchers, then campy and shimano in any of the above. Of course, this only six but I may have missed something. One additional choice adds lots to complexity when it gets trickled down.

Anyway, I sent a note to Lindsay to update my paypal request so hopefully I'll get the proper one tomorrow.

Ok, I just checked my original receipt and the two Paypal invoices I received today, seems I overpaid $20 on each so BD owes me $40 back.

Original pricing

50mm Clincher $528 + 50mm Tubular $398 = $926
Paid deposit of $216 + Two paypal's today total $750 = $966

I am sure Mike and Lindsay will fix this, seems like a very fixable situation.

Now I am confused about this
of coursde its 4am - so I am confused about a lot

Anyway, I thought 50mm was $20 extra
or was Campy Cassette $20 extra?

I can not compare to my prices as I have Shimano v Campy -- wire-on v sew-up -- 38mm v 50mm -- so there are about 8 different prices on my invoice

but either way; whatever we postyed to start with is the correct number
easy to do refunds of $20 or $40 when needed
I'll get with Lindsay on this today

main thing is: I want Karla to start shipping them now
so we can hear how everyone likes them

and so I can hear what people think of using those as oem spec on bikes?
like an immortal with full dura ace and CF sewups? would anyone buy a new bike today with sewups? we used to sell that all the time. I remember selling $300 french bikes with sewups; heck one of my favorite old Raleighs [international] came with sewup and had like a 41 inch wheelbase! I semi touring bike with sewups! Anyway, I am wondering if either type CF wheel is appropriate spec on a stock bike? I'll wait and see how everyone likes these wheels. {by the way - the CF Vuelta wheels we currently sell on Bikeisland are not moncoq - but have done real well}

I don't remember a surcharge being mentioned for Campagnolo, but won't feel cheated if I end up paying it. As I recall the surcharge came in when you made the clinchers available in 50 as well as 38mmn. I'll go ahead and complete payment as invoiced, solely so you can get your feedback,;) But I SWEAR I won't be buying any more stuff no matter how great the deal, you've already made me deviate from my one bike per decade standard. I did successfully resist the Ti road bikes, but the night terrors have been unbearable :D


Now I am confused about this
of coursde its 4am - so I am confused about a lot

Anyway, I thought 50mm was $20 extra
or was Campy Cassette $20 extra?

I can not compare to my prices as I have Shimano v Campy -- wire-on v sew-up -- 38mm v 50mm -- so there are about 8 different prices on my invoice

but either way; whatever we postyed to start with is the correct number
easy to do refunds of $20 or $40 when needed
I'll get with Lindsay on this today

main thing is: I want Karla to start shipping them now
so we can hear how everyone likes them

and so I can hear what people think of using those as oem spec on bikes?
like an immortal with full dura ace and CF sewups? would anyone buy a new bike today with sewups? we used to sell that all the time. I remember selling $300 french bikes with sewups; heck one of my favorite old Raleighs [international] came with sewup and had like a 41 inch wheelbase! I semi touring bike with sewups! Anyway, I am wondering if either type CF wheel is appropriate spec on a stock bike? I'll wait and see how everyone likes these wheels. {by the way - the CF Vuelta wheels we currently sell on Bikeisland are not moncoq - but have done real well}

Now I am confused about this
of coursde its 4am - so I am confused about a lot

Anyway, I thought 50mm was $20 extra
or was Campy Cassette $20 extra?

From memory, the 50 mm tubular did not have any surcharge - it was the cheapest option.

Now I am confused about this
of coursde its 4am - so I am confused about a lot

Anyway, I thought 50mm was $20 extra
or was Campy Cassette $20 extra?

I can not compare to my prices as I have Shimano v Campy -- wire-on v sew-up -- 38mm v 50mm -- so there are about 8 different prices on my invoice

but either way; whatever we postyed to start with is the correct number
easy to do refunds of $20 or $40 when needed
I'll get with Lindsay on this today

main thing is: I want Karla to start shipping them now
so we can hear how everyone likes them

and so I can hear what people think of using those as oem spec on bikes?
like an immortal with full dura ace and CF sewups? would anyone buy a new bike today with sewups? we used to sell that all the time. I remember selling $300 french bikes with sewups; heck one of my favorite old Raleighs [international] came with sewup and had like a 41 inch wheelbase! I semi touring bike with sewups! Anyway, I am wondering if either type CF wheel is appropriate spec on a stock bike? I'll wait and see how everyone likes these wheels. {by the way - the CF Vuelta wheels we currently sell on Bikeisland are not moncoq - but have done real well}

Looking back I do believe one of them had a twenty dollar surcharge I think it was the 50mm Clincher either way there was an error made I sent my documentation to Lindsay this morning in the form of PDF attachments of the PayPal receipts, to assist her in figuring it out.


Edit: I went back through my email archive of December 07 and found the information, there was a $20 upcharge to go the 50mm clinchers from the 38mm (???), with that new piece of info it appears that I was correctly charged for the Clinchers and overpaid for the Tubulars. Sorry for any confusion this might have caused, December was a long time ago.

I don't remember a surcharge being mentioned for Campagnolo, but won't feel cheated if I end up paying it. As I recall the surcharge came in when you made the clinchers available in 50 as well as 38mmn. I'll go ahead and complete payment as invoiced, solely so you can get your feedback,;) But I SWEAR I won't be buying any more stuff no matter how great the deal, you've already made me deviate from my one bike per decade standard. I did successfully resist the Ti road bikes, but the night terrors have been unbearable :D

CRO, perhaps we will run into one another with our new wheels in a week or two. You wouldn't, by chance, be riding in the Crowders Mountain Metric this upcoming Sunday, would you?

VUELTA CUSTOM CARBON FIBER CLINCHER WHEELSET - $528 – this is a special request from forum members; retail would be a lot [about $1500] as this price is close to manufacturing cost. 38mm CF Monocque rim, precision 5 bearing hubs, 20f/24r, 2x, Aero 2.2 butted bladed; factory quoted 1421 grams {I can post sample weight once I see them} Shimano or Campy – please tell Lindsay (expected ship date – Feb)

VUELTA CUSTOM CARBON FIBER TUBULAR WHEELSET - $398 – this is a special request from forum members; retail would be a lot [about $1200] as this price is close to manufacturing cost. 50mm CF Monocque rim, precision 5 bearing hubs, 20f/24r, 2x, Aero 2.2 butted bladed; factory quoted 1561 grams {I can post sample weight once I see them} Shimano or Campy – please tell Lindsay (expected ship date – Feb)

http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=356390&page=36

And this is what Mike said referring to the CLINCHERS:
If I can get the 50mm it will be $20 more
http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=356390&page=38

So there you have it Mike, the $20 extra was concerning the CLINCHERS, not the TUBULARS, which were set at $398 for 50mm.

So should we wait for a new corrected paypal invoice, or should we just pay the wrong one now and send an email that we need a refund for however much the difference is? Right now my invoice is $330 for 50mm campy tubulars.

Just got my corrected invoice from Lindsay a couple of minutes ago. Paid it immediately so hopefully wheels are here before the end of the week. Woohoo!!!!

Thanks BD!

Ugh!

I'm having problems with Lindsay regarding the final price and the apparent $20 overcharge. She insists
that I am "confused", in that there was a $20 surcharge for Campy AND and a $20 surcharge for the
50mm clinchers.

From her most recent email to me (today):

"I know for a fact there was a $20 upgrade to campy, do you want the wheels or not?"

So she is also suggesting that if I don't pay the additional $20 I won't get my wheels.

Am I wrong here? I don't recall ANY mention that the Campy wheels would be $20 more. I would
have gladly paid the additional amount had the price been stated up front, but now its a matter of
principle.

VUELTA CUSTOM CARBON FIBER CLINCHER WHEELSET - $528 – this is a special request from forum members; retail would be a lot [about $1500] as this price is close to manufacturing cost. 38mm CF Monocque rim, precision 5 bearing hubs, 20f/24r, 2x, Aero 2.2 butted bladed; factory quoted 1421 grams {I can post sample weight once I see them} Shimano or Campy – please tell Lindsay (expected ship date – Feb)

VUELTA CUSTOM CARBON FIBER TUBULAR WHEELSET - $398 – this is a special request from forum members; retail would be a lot [about $1200] as this price is close to manufacturing cost. 50mm CF Monocque rim, precision 5 bearing hubs, 20f/24r, 2x, Aero 2.2 butted bladed; factory quoted 1561 grams {I can post sample weight once I see them} Shimano or Campy – please tell Lindsay (expected ship date – Feb)

http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=356390&page=36

And this is what Mike said referring to the CLINCHERS:

http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=356390&page=38

So there you have it Mike, the $20 extra was concerning the CLINCHERS, not the TUBULARS, which were set at $398 for 50mm.

Plainly gives price, no upcharge for Campy listed.

I just got my email from Lindsay as well. It states "The campy version is $20 extra." Yet, when reviewing the original thread, it states:

"VUELTA CUSTOM CARBON FIBER TUBULAR WHEELSET - $398 – this is a special request from forum members; retail would be a lot [about $1200] as this price is close to manufacturing cost. 50mm CF Monocque rim, precision 5 bearing hubs, 20f/24r, 2x, Aero 2.2 butted bladed; factory quoted 1561 grams {I can post sample weight once I see them} Shimano or Campy – please tell Lindsay (expected ship date – Feb)".

No mention of an upcharge for the Campy. Something got mixed. Mike, are passing an up-charge from Campy on?

I just got an email telling me that "The 38mm wheels didn't come in, would you like the 50mm ones?" to which I replied, "As far as I knew, I ordered the 50mm wheels in the first place."

I'm sure it will all get straightened out, I'll just be a sad panda if 38mm wheels show up at my door.

I just got an email telling me that "The 38mm wheels didn't come in, would you like the 50mm ones?" to which I replied, "As far as I knew, I ordered the 50mm wheels in the first place."

I'm sure it will all get straightened out, I'll just be a sad panda if 38mm wheels show up at my door.

I got the same email. I think that the original spec on the tubulars was 50mm, so no problem...

I hope these really are the 50mm Shimano tubular wheels that I ordered. I keep having nightmares of a set of Campy 38mm clinchers arriving at my door!

I'll be glad to see that these things are on the road via UPS...and on my bike...

DPN

Got the UPS shipping notice on my wheels. Scheduled for delivery 4/11!

WW- not planning on doing Crowders Mountain. I don't like to drive to ride. Met up with the Bee Team a couple of times a month ago on Saturdays, but you weren't around. Been sick with a respiratory virus for the past few weeks. Been sick with property tax increase resistance last weekend and likely to be next as well.

I got an expected delivery of 4/9, which is tomorrow :). Should give me a chance to get them installed and checked out and the GF has a race this weekend, so she'll be happy to get to use them.

I think I have totally screwed this up on wheel prices and confused Lindsay and everyone else. [including myself]

Plus I just found out 50mm sewups came in
and 38mm are on the way next month

please - no one freak out on the $20
I will get this all straighted out

it is my mistake by trying to work off my memory [which is not what it used to be - if I remember correctly]

more tomorrow
thanks
mike

Anybody want to pass on their chance and open up an order for a pair of 50 mm Campy clinchers to a remorseful lurker?

Mike, gonna have any extras?

No problem Mike. I don't think anyone's freaking out, we're just trying to figure this out. If you tell me that the Campy requires a $20 up charge because you'll be losing money otherwise, I'll happily pay it (even though this wasn't the deal). Just tell me what's going on and I'll deal with it.

I have a tracking number from UPS for what I assume is 50mm carbon clinchers (which I ordered and was billed for correctly) that says scheduled delivery is on April 10th. The bad news is that I don't see the package "in flight" yet on their tracking site but no matter. The second my wheels arrive I'll post pics - UPS usually gets here around noon EST.

I have a tracking number from UPS for what I assume is 50mm carbon clinchers (which I ordered and was billed for correctly) that says scheduled delivery is on April 10th. The bad news is that I don't see the package "in flight" yet on their tracking site but no matter. The second my wheels arrive I'll post pics - UPS usually gets here around noon EST.


I also have a tracking number from UPS, but it's says Billing Information Received. According to the UPS FAQ:

Billing Information Received: UPS has received the electronic transmission of shipment detail from the shipper. It does not necessarily mean that UPS has taken possession of the shipment.

I'd be surprised if anyone gets wheels tomorrow...

DPN

Got the UPS shipping notice on my wheels. Scheduled for delivery 4/11!

WW- not planning on doing Crowders Mountain. I don't like to drive to ride. Met up with the Bee Team a couple of times a month ago on Saturdays, but you weren't around. Been sick with a respiratory virus for the past few weeks. Been sick with property tax increase resistance last weekend and likely to be next as well.

Have been off the bike for 3.5 weeks, had a mild heart attack and stents put in then. This is the first weekend back on the bike (with my doctor's permission). Plan on Tigerville this Saturday, then Crowders on Sunday. We shall see if my legs hold out.

I have two sets of wheels coming 50mm clinchers and tubulars two tracking numbers but no indication that they actually shipped, so no arrival date either.

I also have a tracking number from UPS, but it's says Billing Information Received. According to the UPS FAQ:

Billing Information Received: UPS has received the electronic transmission of shipment detail from the shipper. It does not necessarily mean that UPS has taken possession of the shipment.

I'd be surprised if anyone gets wheels tomorrow...

DPN

If you're close enough, it's very possible. I once ordered SUV wheels from TireRack 3pm and got them next morning 10am shipped to my door, from NC to NY using UPS ground.

If you're close enough, it's very possible. I once ordered SUV wheels from TireRack 3pm and got them next morning 10am shipped to my door, from NC to NY using UPS ground.

Agreed, if something has actually shipped.

But has anyone actually received any true Tracking information, or just the "Billing Information Received" line??? All that means is basically they've received a call to make a pickup at some time...


DPN

Agreed, if something has actually shipped.

But has anyone actually received any true Tracking information, or just the "Billing Information Received" line??? All that means is basically they've received a call to make a pickup at some time...


DPN

True

I just got an email telling me that "The 38mm wheels didn't come in, would you like the 50mm ones?" to which I replied, "As far as I knew, I ordered the 50mm wheels in the first place."

I'm sure it will all get straightened out, I'll just be a sad panda if 38mm wheels show up at my door.

Same here. I ordered the 50mm tubulars with Shimano spline, and I got the same email. I replied to re-state what I ordered. I guess the good thing is she's offering me what I ordered, as opposed to something I didn't. I too am worried the wrong item will be shipped. I'd rather wait a few days before shipping if it means they can straighten everything out.

Does anyone know where the wheels are shipping from???

Thanks,

DPN

Does anyone know where the wheels are shipping from???

Thanks,

DPN

The other poster with the one day delivery estimate was in Tx.

Does anyone know where the wheels are shipping from???

Thanks,

DPN


I'm under the impression they come out of Dallas or Houston based on previous posts. My UPS still says billing info recieved, so I doubt I'll have them tonight.

I'm under the impression they come out of Dallas or Houston based on previous posts. My UPS still says billing info recieved, so I doubt I'll have them tonight.

I know that Mike and his folks are working hard to get this shipment underway.

Has ANYONE received a "real" UPS notification yet, and not just the "Billing Information Received" note?

I got an email this morning from Lindsay saying the wheels were shipping today (4/9/08)...

I was hoping to have them before the weekend, but that's looking more and more unlikely. I wish I had more patience!

DPN

Lindsay has been working hard on correctly my mistaken instructions
and refunding anyone who was over charged $20

Most wheels are shipping today
and 'movement' on UPS site should be seen tomorrow [their site is a bit behind our scans]

For interest
Bikeisland will be selling these CF wheels for $599 in sewup and $799 in wire-on
and we will see how they move
based on feedback we get; some bikes in 2010 model year may get spec with either of these wheels

I hope everyone loves them

OH damnit, I paid through echeck and its going to clear on april 14th.. well that sucks.

Have been off the bike for 3.5 weeks, had a mild heart attack and stents put in then. This is the first weekend back on the bike (with my doctor's permission). Plan on Tigerville this Saturday, then Crowders on Sunday. We shall see if my legs hold out.

I have two sets of wheels coming 50mm clinchers and tubulars two tracking numbers but no indication that they actually shipped, so no arrival date either.

Wow WW. I hope you're doing okay. Don't get too strenuous right away and take it easy for a while. My father-in-law was back in the hospital a week after the stints were put in. I'm sure you're way beyond that, one was bent.

Wow WW. I hope you're doing okay. Don't get too strenuous right away and take it easy for a while. My father-in-law was back in the hospital a week after the stints were put in. I'm sure you're way beyond that, one was bent.

Thanks, I sort of knew when it happened, I was on a group ride and actually gave up and went home 7 miles in. I found out I had 95% blockage on both the left and right sides. A quick trip to the hospital and a few hours in the cath lab and I had two stents. Everything seems ok and I go in for a stress test tomorrow.

I told my daughter (who is getting the 50mm Clinchers) that it was the wait for the wheels that resulted in the M.I. I have already snuck out and ridden a few times mostly just to spin at lunchtime. That part I didn't tell the doc about.

My wheels show that they were picked up at 3:48pm with a scheduled delivery of Monday, can't wait!

I know that Mike and his folks are working hard to get this shipment underway.

Has ANYONE received a "real" UPS notification yet, and not just the "Billing Information Received" note?



Yep, mine are en-route, estimated delivery on the 14th. Initial scan was in Mesquite, TX.

Yep, mine has been picked up. Says it'll be here tomorrow. Depends on if they require signature or not, it held up my RT700 delivery. Mesquite is <10 miles, I should have just gone over there :)

Get well soon Waldo. Glad they were able to treat you without further damage to your heart...

Have been off the bike for 3.5 weeks, had a mild heart attack and stents put in then. This is the first weekend back on the bike (with my doctor's permission). Plan on Tigerville this Saturday, then Crowders on Sunday. We shall see if my legs hold out.

Sorry to hear that, Waldo. My father had some stents put in last year around this time, and he's doing quite well. I'm betting it'll be the same for you.

Waldo,

Best wishes to a speedy recovery.

Mike,

Its good to see you posting in this thread again with updates. There's high anticipation for this stuff, so its reassuring to hear from you. That said, I've got a couple of questions about the Ti bikes. You indicated earlier that they should be in by May 15th--is this still accurate? Also, are you guys on top of the order specs so there's no confusion like with the wheels?

Thanks!

Okay, I got a proper Paypal request, as in the proper amount was listed so I made the payment today. I almost really screwed up and had them shipped to my house instead of my friends! That would create a huge hassle. I am now anxious to get them to stretch my new rubber over them and finally try out these bad boys!

I told my daughter (who is getting the 50mm Clinchers) that it was the wait for the wheels that resulted in the M.I. I have already snuck out and ridden a few times mostly just to spin at lunchtime. That part I didn't tell the doc about.

Ha ha. How'd I know you'd still be in good spirits about the whole situation. :beer:

Well, my set of wheels showed up today. Won't get tires mounted for tonights ride, so I probably won't be able to test them out until saturday. Initial quality looks pretty good to me, no glaring issues.

Thanks, I sort of knew when it happened, I was on a group ride and actually gave up and went home 7 miles in. I found out I had 95% blockage on both the left and right sides. A quick trip to the hospital and a few hours in the cath lab and I had two stents. Everything seems ok and I go in for a stress test tomorrow.

I told my daughter (who is getting the 50mm Clinchers) that it was the wait for the wheels that resulted in the M.I. I have already snuck out and ridden a few times mostly just to spin at lunchtime. That part I didn't tell the doc about.

My wheels show that they were picked up at 3:48pm with a scheduled delivery of Monday, can't wait!

I am so happy you are OK
take care - and follow doctor's suggestions
they can do great things today
I really wish you all the best

Mike,

Its good to see you posting in this thread again with updates. There's high anticipation for this stuff, so its reassuring to hear from you. That said, I've got a couple of questions about the Ti bikes. You indicated earlier that they should be in by May 15th--is this still accurate? Also, are you guys on top of the order specs so there's no confusion like with the wheels?

Thanks!

Eighty units just shipped
and the rest were held up for late tire delivery

So some Ti road bikes will be in before May 15th
and the rest right after May 15th

We are all really looking forward to these
seems to be more demand for high grade Ti at a reasonable price than we ever thought

Hey Mike,

I meant to ask this a while back, but it slipped my mind. I bought a pair of the 50mm carbon tubulars, with the Shimano-style freehub body. I run both Campy and Shimano, on different bikes, and I'm wondering if your Vuelta hubs will accept both of your freehubs. Or, put another way, can you switch between Campagnolo and Shimano freehubs on the same rear hub? And, if so, do you have any plans to make the Campy freehub available for sale as a seperate item?

...
We are all really looking forward to these
seems to be more demand for high grade Ti at a reasonable price than we ever thought
Does that mean you'll be doing the Ti cylcocross group buy sometime soon? :D

Hey Mike,

I meant to ask this a while back, but it slipped my mind. I bought a pair of the 50mm carbon tubulars, with the Shimano-style freehub body. I run both Campy and Shimano, on different bikes, and I'm wondering if your Vuelta hubs will accept both of your freehubs. Or, put another way, can you switch between Campagnolo and Shimano freehubs on the same rear hub? And, if so, do you have any plans to make the Campy freehub available for sale as a seperate item?

I'm with you, but only I ordered Campy. Perhaps we can agree to just ride opposite equiped bikes and just send the bodies back and forth to each other.

Hmm, on second thought, will there be a shimano freehub available? Or do others fit and we can get it somewhere else?

Well, my set of wheels showed up today. Won't get tires mounted for tonights ride, so I probably won't be able to test them out until saturday. Initial quality looks pretty good to me, no glaring issues.

What all came in the box? Wheels and brake pads only? Do they look like the picture?

DPN

Yeah, post some pics soon... and post the measured weights!!!!!