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bigjim1
12-05-07, 09:19 AM
Sat in a meeting at work today and as more people joined the table many of whom I was meeting for the first time I realised that I was the oldest person there. Everybody was younger and I sit wondering what do these ladder climbing kids know? I’m most probably being unfair as I was that age once. Is it just me? Cycling apart from the fitness is also part of my vanity, to try to keep age at bay. Am I the only one not skipping joyfully into old age? Am I alone in still wanting lots of sex? Want it as much or more then when I was 25. Thank-fully still getting it as well [thankyou god]. The one who dies his hair [good enough for Elvis] and still rides/swims/walks the same distance as when he was only 25? I see a lot of guys my age or younger who have the grey hair and beard to match and that’s fine if you are comfortable with that but it is definitely not for me. Or my partner. I still have my vanity and still want to catch the eye of a good looking woman [or maybe any woman]. Not that I would do anything as I still have a beautiful woman at home plus of course they have not seen me naked or grey! Am I wrong? Is it just me? Tell me over 50s. Am I alone?

Jim:D


Jet Travis
12-05-07, 09:37 AM
I asked my barber if he had anything for my graying hair. He said, "respect." Everybody's a wise guy.

maddmaxx
12-05-07, 09:58 AM
At 61 I'm not even close to being the oldest one at work.

Hair's grey........white actually and I really don't care. There are no kids in my line of work so we never notice the difference untill we leave the lab areas and wander out into the rest of the company.

The company................well, they have just begun to notice that all the engineers and technicians in the prototype development area are shall we say....ancient. It first this was a joke untill they started to hunt for replacements........

It would appear that with a (very) few exceptions modern society is not raising any hands on replacements for the old ones. The younger PHD's and engineers coming our way have to be protected from themselves when it comes time to handle real tools and hardware. (don't get me wrong...some are really good with theory and simulations).

Am I getting old.............na. I'm just getting more valuable.


Little Darwin
12-05-07, 10:02 AM
Each person is entitled to their own thoughts, so don't read anything here as judgemental about your view... but reflecting my view.

I think our society has placed too much importance on looking young... and made the visual signs of age evidence of a lesser level of vigor.

I don't, and won't dye my hair (if any) nor will I be likely to do anything artificial about my decreasing supply of hair. I will maybe try shampoos that help make my hair fuller. For me, making the most of what I have is appropriate.

I want to look my age, and live as a younger person, and not try to disguise the fact that I am older.

I have lived many years, and deserve the respect that my age should afford me, but American society has stolen that from me.

Will I constrain myself to only doing things that "old people" do? Absolutely not.

Do I care what women think of me? Only one... I know that dying my hair wouldn't make a difference, and I know if she stopped dying hers, I would love her just as much. If my gray thinning hair or wrinkles offended her, then she wouldn't be worth my time.

Snow on the roof - Fire in the furnace!

:)

BluesDawg
12-05-07, 10:20 AM
Coloring grey hair would be about the same as wearing a rug - imho. Bald heads and greying beards won't turn away the women worth attracting. Not being able to accept these changes would definitely be a turn-off to the one I love.

bac
12-05-07, 10:22 AM
I asked my barber if he had anything for my graying hair. He said, "respect." Everybody's a wise guy.

Yet pretty funny also. :D

... Brad

Motorad
12-05-07, 10:25 AM
A gag from the now-completely-bald comedian, Gallagher (the watermelon smasher):
He had mixed feelings about his hair. On the one hand, his hair is gray. On the other hand, it is hair.

bigjim1
12-05-07, 10:46 AM
Coloring grey hair would be about the same as wearing a rug - imho. Bald heads and greying beards won't turn away the women worth attracting. Not being able to accept these changes would definitely be a turn-off to the one I love.
Everybody has their own opinion on who they want to attract. So women colouring their grey hair would look better with a rug? Don't see why you wouldn't want to look your best. Why would you ever bother resraying an old bike frame or car if you didn't care how it looked?

Jim

Tom Bombadil
12-05-07, 10:49 AM
While I have done nothing to cosmetically alter my appearance, I have no problems with anyone who does. I think it is natural for people to want to look younger and why not take advantage of modern techniques to do so? No doubt there are advantages to looking like one is 45 when they are really 55. If someone can pull it off, then more power to them.

I don't relish the effects of age, and I have been slow to develop wrinkles on my hands & face, and have kept nearly all of my hair to boot. I like all of this! But I don't do anything to enhance my appearance.

wobblyoldgeezer
12-05-07, 11:14 AM
I just did what balding guys do - got a buzz cut. My daughter said - "Wow Dad, you look great". Wonder what she wants for Christmas? Whatever, she's got it:D

The Weak Link
12-05-07, 11:27 AM
Does anyone here think Marie Osmond is still hot? I think that would provide insight into this discussion.

BSLeVan
12-05-07, 11:29 AM
There seems to be a lot of concern with how we look on the outside. I'm told that I look more attractive now with the salt 'n pepper hair than I've ever looked. So, I'm not sure "looking young" equals looking your best. I find that I can communicate and connect with people of any age if I want. I just have to be open and willing to listen more than talk. I also remember the first time I looked at my hands and saw my father's hands. At first it surprised me. But with additional reflection I came to understand that my father is a man who's impact was significant enough that I have a visual image of his hands stored in my mind's eye. This reinforced and reminded me that I believe it is what is inside the physical body we are given that makes someone memorable or important. Hence, I spend more time worrying about who I am inside than what I have to work with on the outside. This has caused some changes I didn't anticipate. For example, I never really anticipated what it would feel like the day my oldest son could perform a physical task (of strength) for me that I was no longer capable of. At first I was surprised that I couldn't do it, and that he could (rather easily, I might add). Then I was in a state of admiration at his skillful use of his physical strength. Finally, I was thankful for a relationship strong enough that he wanted to work side by side with me. Am I getting older? Yep, one day at a time, just like everyone else. I for one have few negative feelings about the process, and when they come I usually get past them pretty quickly. I've got today, and tomorrow is promised to no one. I don't have much time to do battle with "getting old". There's way too much else to do.

BluesDawg
12-05-07, 11:37 AM
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Everybody has their own opinion on who they want to attract.

So women colouring their grey hair would look better with a rug?

Don't see why you wouldn't want to look your best. Why would you ever bother resraying an old bike frame or car if you didn't care how it looked?

Jim

I'll concede the first point. Very true.

I have no idea where the second point came from. I was equating a man hiding his greying hair with coloring to a man hiding his balding head with a fake hair piece.

Third point is completely off-base. Who said anything about not caring how you look?

Motorad
12-05-07, 11:39 AM
But I don't do anything to enhance my appearance.

However, etiquette requires that you manicure your horns periodically.

stapfam
12-05-07, 11:56 AM
At 60- I am just happy to keep what I have got- A bit of hair- My fitness and my Sanity.

Leigh_caines
12-05-07, 11:57 AM
As one who started going white/grey at 20...
It never got in the way of the right women likeing me...
And I've never thought of changing it...

As for keeping up with the young men,,, why would you want to?
More then half of them are rude and brainless and I don't see any need to be like them.

The Weak Link
12-05-07, 12:07 PM
We're all getting older by the moment and creeping at varying speeds to the brink of the Great Hereafter, higher beingship, essence of Goo, or total obliviation except as worm food, depending on your belief system and perhaps by what actually happens, which no one knows for sure.

So.... GET OVER IT.

According to the pictures posted here, most of you are butt-ugly anyway, so why you are worrying about what babes think is beyond me.

I hope you have found these words of some comfort to you.

And I for one think Marie Osmond is still hot.

Coyote!
12-05-07, 12:12 PM
For me it wasn't being the oldest at the meeting. . .don't mind that at all. . .it was being at the SAME MEETING I had attended. . .TWENTY YEARS AGO and twice per year since!!! You know the meeting. I came to call it "The Somme". . .it goes, "Well Lads, let's fix bayonnets and go over the top this one last time!! Who's with me? God, Queen, and country! Tally-HO!!!". Just like the one twenty years ago, we're fought back to our own trenches by nightfall. Glad I got out with these gray hairs and the Survivor's Cynicism.

cooker
12-05-07, 12:15 PM
It would appear that with a (very) few exceptions modern society is not raising any hands on replacements for the old ones. This is a massive looming societal problem. The good news - many of us won't be forced into retirement. The bad news: many of us won't be forced into retirement.

maddmaxx
12-05-07, 12:21 PM
This is a massive looming societal problem. The good news - many of us won't be forced into retirement. The bad news: many of us won't be forced into retirement.

:roflmao:

Better said than I.

solveg
12-05-07, 12:36 PM
As one who started going white/grey at 20...
It never got in the way of the right women likeing me...
And I've never thought of changing it...

As for keeping up with the young men,,, why would you want to?
More then half of them are rude and brainless and I don't see any need to be like them.

Because maybe he's competing for young women? All this "looking younger" thing is pretty useless unless you're wanting people to think* you're younger for some reason. I don't see the point.

And all you guys should take a second look at women your own age, if you're not already. All of us are much cooler now than we were in our 20's.

swc7916
12-05-07, 12:53 PM
I didn't like having gray hair and used to dye it. Then I got my photo back from my 40th high school reunion and realized that I didn't have enough hair left to dye. So I switched to a buzz cut and don't bother with my hair anymore.

cccorlew
12-05-07, 01:07 PM
When i was a kid 50 was really old. No adult I knew rode a bike or played softball or flag football. They were flippin OLD.
I think we are (at least the we on this forum) in much better shape than those who were 50 in the 50s. We also look younger because of it.

NotReady4Purple
12-05-07, 01:17 PM
For me it wasn't being the oldest at the meeting. . .don't mind that at all. . .it was being at the SAME MEETING I had attended. . .TWENTY YEARS AGO and twice per year since!!! You know the meeting. I came to call it "The Somme". . .it goes, "Well Lads, let's fix bayonnets and go over the top this one last time!! Who's with me? God, Queen, and country! Tally-HO!!!". Just like the one twenty years ago, we're fought back to our own trenches by nightfall. Glad I got out with these gray hairs and the Survivor's Cynicism.

I was just in that meeting this morning. :(

rainycamp
12-05-07, 01:35 PM
And I for one think Marie Osmond is still hot.

I never thought of her as hot. But Jane Seymour sure qualifies--and she's even older than Marie.

SSP
12-05-07, 01:40 PM
In my opinion, there's nothing much wrong with a little vanity...especially if you embrace a healthy lifestyle as a way of enhancing your appearance and aura of fitness.

I'm one of the oldest guys in my company, but everybody knows me as "that fit guy" who rides nearly every day, and races (and wins). I don't embrace the athletic lifestyle just for the sake of vanity, but many athletic folks I've met are a bit vain about their appearance and I think that's OK.

I'll turn 55 next week, and (according to my girlfriend) I have a body that most 25 year old's would be proud of (5' 11", 168 lbs, 11% body fat).

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EDIT: what I meant above is that most 25 year old *guys* would be comfortable with my body. Not that it appeals to 25 year old women (as implied below)...hell, I wouldn't know what to do with a 25 year old woman either! I generally date athletic women in their 40's and 50's. Sorry for the confusion...
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As for hair dying...what's this "hair" of which you speak? I keep mine very short most of the year, and sometimes shave completely in the summer. I also shave legs and chest (legs for cycling, chest for swimming and triathlons).

As for the opposite sex...I regularly get smiles and looks from women my age (and younger), and have an active sex life (another benefit to being single!).


YMMV, but I say...Keep Those Pedals Turning, and Never Give Up, Never Surrender.

SaiKaiTai
12-05-07, 02:24 PM
Anyone else think it's a little -I don't know, sad?- to hear a 50+ guy bragging about how much he's still "getting it"? Nah, just me, I'm sure.

Guess I stopped worrying about being the envy of anyone -young or old- about 20 years ago.
Why should I possibly care what a 25 year old thinks of me? My wife loves me and that's really all I need. I wouldn't even know what to do with a 25 year old. We sure wouldn't have much to talk about, that's for sure.

OK, if they think, "Hey, he's coming up on 55 years old and he's still out there pushing himself to the best of his abilities" that might be OK (as some kind of example that you don't have to just sit around and wait to die) but, really now, come on...

I don't color my hair and people tell me it's beautiful.
Good thing since it's about a foot long these days.
Sure, I've got it and I'm flaunting it :lol:
I color my beard sometimes when I think about it but infrequently enough that I doubt I'm fooling anyone.

But, hey, it's a big world.

Sorry, I know I said I was taking a sabbatical but I just couldn't let this one go.
I'll go away again, now...

Tom Bombadil
12-05-07, 02:24 PM
YMMV, but I say...Keep Those Pedals Turning, and Never Give Up, Never Surrender.

And if SSP goes down while giving it the good fight, By Grabthar's Hammer, he shall be avenged!

bigjim1
12-05-07, 02:38 PM
Anyone else think it's a little -I don't know, sad?- to hear a 50+ guy bragging about how much he's still "getting it"? Nah, just me, I'm sure.

Hey come on! No need to beat me up or insult me. I was not bragging. never mentioned how much. Dooohhh. I was grateful. No I don't like getting old. Sue me! I'm a big ugly bugger but and I want to look my best especially for my lady, just like she does for me. IMHO nothing wrong with a little pride. She didn't take up with a grey haired old fart all those years ago. Why should she have one now if it can be avoided for a while? I want to make the most of my life. Growing old can damn well wait! Obviousley on my own with this one. Now sorry I asked.

Jim

SSP
12-05-07, 02:41 PM
Anyone else think it's a little -I don't know, sad?- to hear a 50+ guy bragging about how much he's still "getting it"? Nah, just me, I'm sure.

I think you misread my intent...see my edit in post 26 for clarification.

SSP
12-05-07, 02:43 PM
And if SSP goes down while giving it the good fight, By Grabthar's Hammer, he shall be avenged!

I own the DVD of Galaxy Quest. It was some of Tim Allen's best work ever, IMO, and one of the funniest sci-fi movies ever made.

Oh, and if it ever becomes necessary...thanks in advance for revenging my death! :D

Tom Bombadil
12-05-07, 02:50 PM
This forum is generally well mannered, but every once in a while we zing each other. I guess that is just human nature. SKT has been the zingee a few times, now he becomes the zinger.

I'm sure that in barroom conversations, a lot of 50+'ers discuss their love life, and brag a bit if it is a particularly active life. I don't see any problem with someone coming on here and saying the same. After all, the sexual behavior of 50+'ers is changing and is a popular topic on talk shows and in books & magazine articles. And is probably related to the more active lifestyles, which includes cycling, of today's 50+'ers. There is probably more than 1 50+'er on this forum who appreciates some of the extra benefits that comes from being in good shape.

Not saying that I'm one of that group though.

SaiKaiTai
12-05-07, 02:53 PM
I think you misread my intent...see my edit in post 26 for clarification.

Sorry SSP, that was meant for the OP, not you.
I should have made that more clear... heck, I should have made it clear, period.
Apologies

SaiKaiTai
12-05-07, 02:56 PM
Sorry SSP, that was meant for the OP, not you.
I should have made that more clear... heck, I should have made it clear, period.
Apologies

To the OP: Sorry, as well. The written word is funny that way. When I first read this post, it just kind of struck me as a bit of chest-thumpin, I guess.

And I'm not saying that if some buxom, young, 25 year old hottie came up and wanted a piece of me she wouldn't get a piece of me. Hell, I ain't dead :lol: I still wouldn't know what to do with her, though.

SaiKaiTai
12-05-07, 02:58 PM
This forum is generally well mannered, but every once in a while we zing each other. I guess that is just human nature. SKT has been the zingee a few times, now he becomes the zinger.

Chagrined, I'm gonna just slink away again.

SSP
12-05-07, 03:01 PM
^^^^^^^^^

Thanks, TB. And, no worries SKT...I have a thick skin.

And, yes, the OP and I were doing a bit of chest-thumpin'...but, at our "advanced" age, we've earned the right. ;)

Tom Bombadil
12-05-07, 03:02 PM
Nah, don't go away, we enjoy your comments.

As to chest-thumping, we encourage that in this forum. I rode 100 miles! I rode up a mountain! I won my time trial! All great stuff. Now if someone comes on and says I won my 100 mile time trial up the side of a mountain and then did two beautiful women (or men, whatever), I wouldn't begrudge them a little chest thumping!

SSP
12-05-07, 03:02 PM
To the OP: Sorry, as well. The written word is funny that way. When I first read this post, it just kind of struck me as a bit of chest-thumpin, I guess.

And I'm not saying that if some buxom, young, 25 year old hottie came up and wanted a piece of me she wouldn't get a piece of me. Hell, I ain't dead :lol: I still wouldn't know what to do with her, though.

If you can't figure it out...send her my way. :D

BluesDawg
12-05-07, 03:17 PM
Hey come on! No need to beat me up or insult me. I was not bragging. never mentioned how much. Dooohhh. I was grateful. No I don't like getting old. Sue me! I'm a big ugly bugger but and I want to look my best especially for my lady, just like she does for me. IMHO nothing wrong with a little pride. She didn't take up with a grey haired old fart all those years ago. Why should she have one now if it can be avoided for a while? I want to make the most of my life. Growing old can damn well wait! Obviousley on my own with this one. Now sorry I asked.

Jim

Hey, whatever it takes to get you through the night. I think I had to deal with this stuff sooner than most people as in my mid twenty's I had to make the transition from having shoulder length, flowing, wavy blond hair to watching my forehead and bald spot race each other for the top of my head. I remember that not being an easy thing to deal with. One day I looked in the mirror and realized I was well on my way to a classic comb-over. I had already seen friends go down the Rogaine and transplant road and I knew I wasn't about to follow them there. So I grabbed my beard trimmer and cut it all off. Huge improvement in the way I looked and felt. And my luck with the ladies improved. I learned that what looks best to women is confidence.
Years later when the beard started moving from pepper to salt and pepper to mostly salt, it was just not a big deal.

BluesDawg
12-05-07, 03:20 PM
If you can't figure it out...send her my way. :D

I hear you, brother. Some things you just don't forget. Like riding a bike, it just comes back to you. :D

Digital Gee
12-05-07, 03:24 PM
If you guys really want to spice up your sex life, get a white bike. Just sayin.

SSP
12-05-07, 03:26 PM
If you guys really want to spice up your sex life, get a white bike. Just sayin.

I've heard of kinky, but that's just plain wrong!

Digital Gee
12-05-07, 03:28 PM
I've heard of kinky, but that's just plain wrong!

:D:D:D

SSP
12-05-07, 03:29 PM
If you guys really want to spice up your sex life, get a white bike. Just sayin.

If you do it with a tandem, would that be a Ménage à trois (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C3%A9nage_%C3%A0_trois)?

BluesDawg
12-05-07, 03:33 PM
Didn't a guy in England get arrested for that recently?

Digital Gee
12-05-07, 03:41 PM
I said, "If you guys really want to spice up your sex life, get a white bike." I did NOT say, "Have sex WITH a white bike."

White bike = Chick magnet.

That's all I'm saying. :roflmao:

farandaway
12-05-07, 03:57 PM
Perhaps a woman's point of view would be helpful.:o I'm pretty mainstream in my opinions. I'd say that almost all women can tell a dye job from a mile away. And we generally prefer grey hair on men to hair dye. In fact, grey hair is seen by women as a sign of wisdom and intelligence. We are more concerned with the beauty inside. Things like kindness, thoughtfulness, good personal hygeine, and hopefully, a steady income are valued more than a youthful appearance. Fitness is good, but we allow lots of leeway in that area.

As for the job market, that's a different story. In some fields, age discrimination is alive and well.

donheff
12-05-07, 04:03 PM
Nothing wrong about wanting to look your best, or hoping you are still attractive to the fairer sex. I used to get a lot of compliments about my prematurely gray hair in my 30s. Now that I am 59 no one notices anymore :( I have even wondered what I would look like with hair the color I had as a kid. But then I think about my uncle, who died his hair black in his 70s - he looked like a cartoon. Be careful...;)

bigjim1
12-05-07, 04:17 PM
and hopefully, a steady income are valued more than a youthful appearance


Thats definitely a woman talking! But not my type.

Jim

maddmaxx
12-05-07, 04:26 PM
Perhaps a woman's point of view would be helpful.:o I'm pretty mainstream in my opinions. I'd say that almost all women can tell a dye job from a mile away. And we generally prefer grey hair on men to hair dye. In fact, grey hair is seen by women as a sign of wisdom and intelligence. We are more concerned with the beauty inside. Things like kindness, thoughtfulness, good personal hygeine, and hopefully, a steady income are valued more than a youthful appearance. Fitness is good, but we allow lots of leeway in that area.

As for the job market, that's a different story. In some fields, age discrimination is alive and well.

:beer: And this of course is why I have been married almost 35 years. (Feb 3rd)..:D