"The 33"-Road Bike Racing - I told you I would.

I did.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y117/patentcad/Zipp404PT.jpg

A tick under $1100 on eBay with shipping, great shape, that's precisely HALF what the LBS had to get for this same unit. Now I have all winter to figure this thing out. God help me.

How about that red Pimp Daddy Conti 4000?

Pcad may suck at this sport, but NEVER doubt his Schwag capabilities.

Nice. While my new watt meter is on a unshwagtastic mavic op, I'm really liking the training with power and am now solidly among the believers.

Now I have all winter to figure this thing out. God help me.


You're supposed to start using it right away, you spend all winter training effectively so you can come out the spring and crush souls.

;)

Is that a Wheelsmith build?

You're supposed to start using it right away, you spend all winter training effectively so you can come out the spring and crush souls.

;)

LOL you beat me to it!

Is that a Wheelsmith build?

Quite possibly. I will try to find out.

Is that a Wheelsmith build?

Does Wheelsmith make wheels? I thought it was just spokes and overpriced tensiometers.

My PT is built with WS spokes :D

Pcad, I don't want to see you posting in here until we have at least preliminary 5s, 1m and 5m numbers from you. Nice looking wheel though.

You're giving me your old pair of Zipps?

You're giving me your old pair of Zipps?

I'm first in line. You can have his old SSLs, since you keep breaking yours.

Looks good, but it's freaking snowing outside right now! Is that pretty red tire rated for snow?

You're giving me your old pair of Zipps?

Those 'old Zipps' are the tubies young man. Self respecting OCP ******bags like Pcad have Zipp tubies for chasing the fast kids on Sunday and Zipp clinchers for 'training' (I use that term euphemistically).

Looks good, but it's freaking snowing outside right now! Is that pretty red tire rated for snow?

Real men rode today my little Reedy. See my 'Road Nazi on the Russian Front' thread on the Road Cycling forum. For the record all my clinchers are rated for snow. The tubies only see dry roads however.

I did.

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A tick under $1100 on eBay with shipping, great shape, that's precisely HALF what the LBS had to get for this same unit. Now I have all winter to figure this thing out. God help me.

How about that red Pimp Daddy Conti 4000?

Pcad may suck at this sport, but NEVER doubt his Schwag capabilities.

almost as pimp daddy a red michelin (http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/9632/msl2aq7.jpg).

:beer:

I'm first in line. You can have his old SSLs, since you keep breaking yours.

aw.

KP, I'll trade you all my bike schwag for you motor. I'll through in my Siamese Cat Chester too.

KP, I'll trade you all my bike schwag for you motor. I'll through in my Siamese Cat Chester too.

Not fair... You would just buy new schwag!

Not fair... You would just buy new schwag!

pot. kettle. need i say more?

KP, I'll trade you all my bike schwag for you motor. I'll through in my Siamese Cat Chester too.

Fair deal. Siamese cat tastes like duck.

Thinkin about it, might have to join the 21st century :lol: Just dont want to become a watt weenie.

Damn, we're going to need a new sub forums for this purchase.

"P-cads power training questions"

Thinkin about it, might have to join the 21st century :lol: Just dont want to become a watt weenie.

I share that concern and try to keep the geek out. But in the very short time I've been using the watt meter, I've noticed the huge potential it has as a training and motivational tool.

Hooray for you. For me it's mostly been a demotivational tool. I need to stop comparing myself against two-standard-deviation mutants and guys who weigh 40 lbs more than me.

Pcad, you did already get The Book and The Software, right? The hardware is only 1/3 of the system.

Pcad you overestimate your schwag capabilities.

When you can grab the credit card from my hand, then you will be ready grasshopper.


Only then.

Pcad you overestimate your schwag capabilities.

Illogical.

http://magicstatistics.com/wp-content/pictures/persons/Mr_Spock.jpg

Pcad doesn't need to grab the credit card from anyone's hand. I have plenty.

It's OK, I would still consider you a Cat 3 shwagist.

It's OK, I would still consider you a Cat 3 shwagist.

I like to think of myself as a schwaggot.

not that there's anything wrong with that....:)

I did.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y117/patentcad/Zipp404PT.jpg

A tick under $1100 on eBay with shipping, great shape, that's precisely HALF what the LBS had to get for this same unit. Now I have all winter to figure this thing out. God help me.

How about that red Pimp Daddy Conti 4000?

Pcad may suck at this sport, but NEVER doubt his Schwag capabilities.

See Caddy, you're wrong about the difficulty level. You can hook up the fin and the wires, and you're off. You don't even have to hit "start/stop" at the beginning/end of the ride. You upload the data and you'll see ave power, max power, and highs for given periods of time. Most of this you'll also see on the head unit. And... it's not like you don't have an army of powertraining obsessed "weenies" at your beck and call.

Oh wait, you're f*cked. You'll never figure it out.

It's OK, I would still consider you a Cat 3 shwagist.

But I am totally sandbagging.

See Caddy, you're wrong about the difficulty level. You can hook up the fin and the wires, and you're off. You don't even have to hit "start/stop" at the beginning/end of the ride. You upload the data and you'll see ave power, max power, and highs for given periods of time. Most of this you'll also see on the head unit. And... it's not like you don't have an army of powertraining obsessed "weenies" at your beck and call.

Oh wait, you're f*cked. You'll never figure it out.

I don't? What the F is this place for?

And that's P Caddy to you.

But I am totally sandbagging.

I dunno. A couple of cannondales, some used zipps and a powertap doesn't really give you the required upgrade points. Perhaps you should petition but I'd get that credit card out and keep working on it.

I dunno. A couple of cannondales, some used zipps and a powertap doesn't really give you the required upgrade points. Perhaps you should petition but I'd get that credit card out and keep working on it.

The BF Gauntlet drops again.

I think my recent TT make-over has him beat for his lifetime schwag-o-meter, and that doesn't even count the road bike or the MTB...

I would say you are probably right. I think I have more schwag on ebay right now than P-cads whole quiver. He is definitely a BF(r) up-and-comer though.

What kind of skewer is that?

See Caddy, you're wrong about the difficulty level. You can hook up the fin and the wires, and you're off.

Oh no. It's never that easy. Mounted the unit - DOA. I figured it was the hub batteries. Off to Home Depot to buy a 'Spanner Wrench' (the lameass manual's term) so I could remove the plastic cap that was tightened down with 9,000 ft lbs of torque. Finally got it off, replaced the batteries, put it all together and it worked. But it wasn't quite right (speedo seemed whacked), so I went through the whole setup and now it appears to function.

Hook up the fin and wires eh? Yeah, OK. So far that part took 3+ hours to troubleshoot and get working right. I hope this stupid friggin gizmo helps make me faster. I seriously wonder if I have the patience for all this crap. Maybe. Maybe not.

Who writes these electronic bike gizmo manuals anyway? The Bush Administration Foreign Policy Team? The only reason I'm giving this a whirl is because all you hard core racing lunatics insist this can make anyone (even me) faster. I can put up with a lot of crap and head scratching for that.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y117/patentcad/Six13PT.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y117/patentcad/PTcockpit.jpg

Installed. God that Zipp crap is just the uber-schwag.

Installed.

After all the hand-wringing and teeth-gnashing, it looks so...little.

Not that there's anything wrong with that.

After all the hand-wringing and teeth-gnashing, it looks so...little.

Not that there's anything wrong with that.

Now you sound like the girlfriends of my youth.

Now you sound like the girlfriends of my youth.

Sorry to dredge up repressed disappointments. Just play with your new toy, and you'll feel better.

So... you have a computer mount off the front of your bars, and yet you have two computers on your stem?

Is it me, or is his sharkfin upside-down?

PCad how can you possibly run one Zipp without having a matching front Zipp! Sure the tires match, but it still hurts the OCP in me, just a little :P.

-Honestly, looks great hope you enjoy yours as much as I've enjoyed mine.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y117/patentcad/Six13PT.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y117/patentcad/PTcockpit.jpg

Installed. God that Zipp crap is just the uber-schwag.

that looks ********. put the other zipp on the front, man. and you can also get rid of the 27 computers and computer mounts on the bars, too. sheesh

Is it me, or is his sharkfin upside-down?

by golly, i think you're right

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y117/patentcad/PTcockpit.jpg

Installed. God that Zipp crap is just the uber-schwag.

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Is it me, or is his sharkfin upside-down?

That is how it's illustrated in the incredibly lameass Saris manual. That struck me as bizarre. I didn't write it. I looked at it again, and they have the wire coming off the top, but it looks like an upside down shark fin. I say 'looks like' because the illustration is pretty poor. I don't think it matters, it's working. I will check with Saris, try to find some zip ties @ Home Depot and remount it. That's amazing that you can't even mount the friggin sensor right because their manual doesn't have adequate instructions.

I'm keeping the other computer on there for a couple of reasons, but when I'm riding with the PT I'll snap it off and just leave the mount. Initially I want to compare speedo accuracy.

botto makes a good point, too

So... you have a computer mount off the front of your bars, and yet you have two computers on your stem?

The mount in front of the stem is for the HID light. Pcad's velotech needs are beyond your bike weenie comprehension. You don't ride 12K miles annually without some pre-dawn stealth cycling.

You're all friggin total idiots. God, this is a club where I feel I really belong.