Foo - nascar and bicycle madison/points race

Why is one so popular and the other...?

As far as I can tell they're effectively the same aren't they. Oval track, timed race, most laps/points wins, restricted equipment/fuel, extra points at certain stages for position across the line, etc.

Nascar just seems like a 5 hour endurance race with not a lot happening or is that the point?

NASCAR vehicles make a much larger mess when there's a crash.

NASCAR vehicles make a much larger mess when there's a crash.

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One is a real sport and one is WWF Wrestling on wheels.
This is Amerikka where hunting and poker are called sports, too.
Still dont get it ?

Nascar just seems like a 5 hour endurance race with not a lot happening or is that the point?

If you don't understand NASCAR, you might think that nothing is happening. It's just like bicycle racing and soccer: if you don't understand the nuances, you won't be entertained.

If you don't understand NASCAR, you might think that nothing is happening. It's just like bicycle racing and soccer: if you don't understand the nuances, you won't be entertained.

um..ok...nuances to drive fast, turn left, drive fast, turn left. Oh crap...hit car in front and go home. :rolleyes:

um..ok...nuances to drive fast, turn left, drive fast, turn left. Oh crap...hit car in front and go home. :rolleyes:

Now, there you go proving my point. For a tutorial on NASCAR strategy, view this video:
http://jalopnik.com/cars/racing/revealed-secrets-of-nascar-strategy-306654.php

Now, there you go proving my point. For a tutorial on NASCAR strategy, view this video:
http://jalopnik.com/cars/racing/revealed-secrets-of-nascar-strategy-306654.php

I'm just messing with you....all sports have their nuances that only a fan would know about.
I'm just not a big fan of any automotive sports, but that's just me.

I'm just messing with you....all sports have their nuances that only a fan would know about.
I'm just not a big fan of any automotive sports, but that's just me.

Did you watch the video? ;)

Did you watch the video? ;)

Can't....work blocks videos.

Nascar is also well funded/sponsored ... madison races are not.

Nascar is also well funded/sponsored ... madison races are not.

In Europe madison's are immensely popular-- enough so that they can build a really nice track for a six-day event and then cut it up with chainsaws at the end and still make money.

I can't find the link, but a guy posted a pick about a year ago of the wrecking crew cutting out one of the distance marks (the 60 m mark, I think) and giving it to him as they were tearing down the track.

NASCAR vehicles make a much larger mess when there's a crash.

NASCAR racing is noisy. There's lots of drinking.

East Hill

Madison (Dolly) is not popular in Nascar, but Debbie (Little) is. just saying
http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r162/jsharr/dolly.jpg

Isn't that a little hard on the velodrome track?

well thanks for the replies folks - so, as far as the general details go, the only major difference is the engine?

They're both just an excuse to hang out and drink with your buddies?

Isn't that a little hard on the velodrome track?

What does it matter? Sounds like they cut the things apart with chainsaws after the race. Maybe they should race these instead?
http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r162/jsharr/BuzzWagon.gif

They're both just an excuse to hang out and drink with your buddies?

Check out botto's thread about the Amsterdam 6 Days (http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=357306). I think he did the whole hanging out and drinking with buddies. The thread talks quite a bit about drinking.

We can't wait to kidnap botto and take him to Bristol for the Food City 500.

We can't wait to kidnap botto and take him to Bristol for the Food City 500.

That would be a culture shock for both Botto and the race fans.

Why is one so popular and the other...?

As far as I can tell they're effectively the same aren't they. Oval track, timed race, most laps/points wins, restricted equipment/fuel, extra points at certain stages for position across the line, etc.

Nascar just seems like a 5 hour endurance race with not a lot happening or is that the point?

If you every get the chance to go to a race rent or take a scanner with you. You would be surprised on how much is going on. Nascar races are not timed races, they race until completion, X amount of miles has been reached. The fact that the races are so long allows for more strategy then just putting your for and gas. For example they will run with different set ups in the car in different periods of the race to keep up with track conditions and temps.

Now, there you go proving my point. For a tutorial on NASCAR strategy, view this video:
http://jalopnik.com/cars/racing/revealed-secrets-of-nascar-strategy-306654.php


That's funny video, here is another good one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dcx1RHmexDM

That's funny video, here is another good one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dcx1RHmexDM

Now, if any of you sophisticated urban types would like, I can explain the jokes in the video that you don't (or won't admit to) get. :p

Now, there you go proving my point. For a tutorial on NASCAR strategy, view this video:
http://jalopnik.com/cars/racing/revealed-secrets-of-nascar-strategy-306654.php

"Is this straight enought?"

"Straighter!"


:roflmao:

Check out botto's thread about the Amsterdam 6 Days (htt p://ww w .bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=357306). I think he did the whole hanging out and drinking with buddies. The thread talks quite a bit about drinking.

We can't wait to kidnap botto and take him to Bristol for the Food City 500.

that's what you do when you go to the 6 days.

When you have a 500mi race, it's not just a test of the car and the driver, but of the pit crew, and falls into tactics.

You need to know when to hold back, and when to push it.

that's what you do when you go to the 6 days.

The brilliant thing is that's what you do when you go to a NASCAR event, too. Oh yeah, and the CO fumes are just an added bonus.

I'll bring the Busch Light, don't you worry, Bubba.

:p