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Abneycat
12-19-07, 12:35 PM
For quite a while, i'd been researching carrying solutions for the bike. Wanted something that would have a high volume capacity, and be able to serve both domestically and in some of my upcoming expedition tours. The Bob Ibex initially came up as an option, as did the solution of simply buying good quality steel racks.

However, the Xtracycle won out, so this is the 3rd day review. Will update this again down the road to provide a longer term review. Will also provide some pictures.

At any rate, i'll begin with the positives:

+ Works as advertised. I was concerned about the performance of a high load accessory that wasn't directly a part of the bike, but this thing works extremely well! So far, i've loaded one roommate at 140lbs, maintenance tools, her giant purse, and 2 cases of beer on all at once. Then upon arriving home, opened up one of the inner pockets to discover that i'd forgotten to take out the tent poles and camping gear that were test-stuffed into the bike beforehand.

Have done multiple such heavy loads since, such as picking up a massive roll of flooring, and a christmas tree, at once. The Freeradical is very robust, and I would be much more worried about wheel failure, or frame failure than the X' itself coming apart. However, it seems possible to do so, i'll elaborate more on that in the negatives.

+ Installation is a simple process. The only tool that not everyone might own, that they might need, is a chain tool.

+ The pockets on the inside of the freeloader are well designed, including one small net pocket for immediate accessibility, and one larger pocket thats actually fairly well hidden.

Overall, my opinion is that this thing is really quite useful!

There are negatives so far, however:

- The Snapdeck. While its highly attractive looking, this deck isn't designed with weather in mind. It would be nice if they had another option available, because a few rains and this deck is going to be toast. Needs to be coated with more finish than it is upon arrival in order to survive.

- Freeloader quality control. My left freeloader is flawless, put together extremely well. The one on the right however, has 2 problems: The drawstring on the front was sewn into the netting, and chewed up. Managed to work it loose, but the drawstring is quite damaged and will fall apart.

Also, the reflective strip on the back of the right freeloader strangely, does not reflect. I noticed this the other night holding my bike light while putting it on, that the one on the left shines, but the right reflector is actually dull and useless. Then, I noticed that its actually peeling off the freeloader. Will be trying to contact Xtracycle about this, as it seems like the right freeloader is a lemon.

- This leads to my last point. While Xtracycle might have good United States customer service, I don't know. I don't know this, because apparently if you aren't living in the U.S. you can't call them. You also can't order products from their website it seems. While this might be understandable from their phone bill's point of view, it doesn't help if you're an international customer and need help with the product in a timely fashion. Of course, you can still e-mail them.

On a positive note, i'd like to thank Juergen Weichert of Acclivity solutions, he carries Xtracycle's products in Canada, and was very helpful in the process of obtaining one.

SingingSabre
12-19-07, 03:39 PM
I'm probably going to make my own snapdeck once my current one wears out. I'll be using some sort of über-varnish to seal it.

Sorry to hear about your freeloaders, though. That sucks!

lala
12-19-07, 04:36 PM
Have you given feedback to the company? The deck is really not weather worthy. Mine has no finish left on it, pretty much.

cman
12-19-07, 04:41 PM
I want to make a snapdeck from corian countertop material. or a cutting board

discocarp
12-19-07, 05:10 PM
You can get a material called "starboard". Its used on boats. Its basically HDPE plastic, in various thicknesses. Its used to replace ply on boats in marine environments. You could also use cutting board as mentioned earlier (which I think is also HDPE). I get mine custom from http://cuttingboardcompany.com/ and they're great. They'll do custom cuts, they might even be willing to exactly mimic the snapdeck if you mailed a paper cutout of it to them. Comes in various colors and a couple thicknesses too! I'd get the thickest personally.

My xtracycle has already shipped! I was hoping it would arrive today, but not yet... Glad to hear the (mostly) good reviews, and I hope you get the freeloader issue worked out. Hopefully its just a lemon that they'll replace!

Abneycat
12-20-07, 05:35 PM
Well, here's an update on the freeloader situation: they've sent out a new one free of charge. They didn't make a fuss or ask any questions, I would've expected at least a question or two :)

Hey, they didn't even check to make sure I even *owned* one, but that was great customer service on their behalf. Definitely a +1 for Xtracycle right there. I'm really happy with these guys and this product, personally, would not hesitate to recommend them to anyone looking for a good hauling system.

evblazer
12-20-07, 05:44 PM
I know it is a utility cycle and we are the utility cycle forum but have you noticed your bike post xtracycle being slower? Much slower then just the adding of a few pounds.
I think the freeradicals on mine act as a nice sail to bog me down quite a bit but I'm not sure if it is just my imagination.
I know pre-x I was averaging 16mph on my commute now I have the xtracycle and a bit longer commute and most days I'm at 13mph which means 3 hours riding time instead of 2 1/2. Even short rides I go alot slower and haven't used the big ring in forever.

Abneycat
12-20-07, 05:56 PM
Not to that degree. I've found acceleration and climbing to be slower, simply owing to the increased mass of having the Xtracycle plus the additional things I now pack along. Sustained speed isn't much different, and i'll be changing the gearing range somewhat to help out more on climbs. My average speed dropped about 1.5kph.

Elkhound
12-21-07, 10:48 AM
You can buy marine-quality polyurythane finish at any paint store. Go over the snapdeck with sandpaper, then apply several coats of poly.

I have always said that one of the X's problems is its lack of weather-resistance. It was, after all, designed in southern California, so that isn't really all that surprising.

Abneycat
12-21-07, 03:34 PM
I've considered taking the feet off the snapdeck and making one out of a tough but moderately pliable material like polycarbonate, or as cman mentioned, a cutting board would do well.

JeffS
12-22-07, 04:02 PM
I've considered taking the feet off the snapdeck and making one out of a tough but moderately pliable material like polycarbonate, or as cman mentioned, a cutting board would do well.


While the wood does have its appeal, I always thought something like a recycled plastic would both hold up better and appeal to the green nature of most of their clients.

Abneycat
12-22-07, 11:35 PM
Indeed! I also really like the wood aesthetic, but lets face it: the choices are either

1. douse the snapdeck with varnish or treatment, to make it weather resistant. Not really environmentally friendly.

2. Use it till its toast, then reuse the knubby feet to make a new one. Still, lost snapdeck.

3. Make a new one and keep the snapdeck as a wall decoration or something?

It would be nice to simply see an all weather snapdeck come *with* the Xtracycle, and possibly some better weatherproofing on the freeradical frame itself. I'm putting some frame treatment inside mine this weekend, then putting rubber shims down into the uprights and figuring a way to permanently attach the v-racks on. Understandably, Xtracycle might not understand these problems, being Californian = )

AllenG
12-23-07, 03:47 PM
After my snapdeck gave up ghost I took a cue from BAH and I've replaced my snapdeck with a skateboard deck.

jimisnowhere
12-24-07, 05:42 PM
Try spar varnish from a marine supply store, its invincible. Three coats and it will look like its been dipped in glass.

BAH
12-25-07, 12:40 AM
skate decks are much cooler anyway :D

http://www.bikerubbish.com/rubbish/dec2007/af10.jpg


http://www.bikerubbish.com/rubbish/dec2007/af6.jpg

joelpalmer
12-26-07, 12:24 PM
You can buy marine-quality polyurythane finish at any paint store. Go over the snapdeck with sandpaper, then apply several coats of poly.

+1 to the marine varnish/poly. Great stuff to use on any exposed wood that will be in the weather. Practically bulletproof when done correctly.

cman
12-26-07, 03:21 PM
Plexiglass would be kinda of cool except for the scratches.