Singlespeed & Fixed Gear - Spoke question?

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What do I call this spoke job on each wheel? Can I obtain this with 32 hole Velocity hubs? Thanks...
http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o214/quincymorris/Bike_3.jpg
Charlesbian
12-20-07, 02:04 AM
the front one is a radial i believe. can only do em on front wheels. I hear they are slightly weaker than traditional lacing.
Eulogy13x
12-20-07, 06:27 AM
the front one is a radial i believe. can only do em on front wheels. I hear they are slightly weaker than traditional lacing.
+1
The back one looks like standard "triple-cross," I think. Most mass-built wheels come that way, don't they?
nelzar13
12-20-07, 08:39 AM
you sure can
you can radially lace the non drive side of the rear wheel
veggiemafia
12-20-07, 09:27 AM
Or you can radially lace the drive side and do the non-drive side 2x, but only if you're Mavic.
maybe thats what i meant. i don't know
veggiemafia
12-20-07, 10:11 AM
It's probably not, radial non-drive is more common than the radial drive-side that Mavic calls Isopulse lacing. Although radial drive-side is getting more common, it seems.
I'm hopefully going to have some 2008 Ksyrium Equipes with the Isopulse lacing soon, I'll report back if anyone gives a ****.
Ken Cox
12-20-07, 11:32 AM
What a nice looking bike.
Anyway, the back wheel appears to have 36 spokes laced in a two-cross pattern.
The front has radially laced spokes.
Radial lacing makes a wheel more resistant to impact and side loads.
A radially laced wheel has almost no tolerance for torgue, meaning driving torgue or pedal-braking torque.
Therefore, radial lacing makes a perfect pattern for front wheels and a disaster for rear, drive wheels.
Designers of geared road bike wheels get away with radial lacing on one side of the drive wheel because geared bikes experience nowhere near the torque loads of a fixed gear bike; and, in the weight-weenie wars, radial lacing on one side saves and itsy-bitsy amount of weight, but weight none the less.
Thirty-six spoke two cross and 32 spoke three cross represent the strongest wheels in terms of withstanding abusive torque, such as a street fixed gear bike's rear wheel might experience.
Manufacturers of fixed gear wheels prefer 32 spoke three cross because it uses all same length spokes, and it doesn't break, which let's the manufacturer use a cheaper hub, cheaper spokes, involves fewer manufacturing steps, and a machine can easily assemble a wheel with this lacing.
For maximum strength at the minimal weight and cost in a street fixed gear bike, which will experience skidding and skipping, 32 spoke three cross represents the ideal in either a machine made or a hand made wheel.
For an absolutely super wheel with adequate drive torque strength, superior side load and impact strength, the various Crow's Foot lacings, which combine cross-lacing with radial-lacing, represent the ideal.
The 36 spoke three-cross Crow's Foot lacing represents an elegant, indestructible fortress amongst wheels; and some consider the 32 spoke Hybrid Crow's Foot the pinnacle of wheel lacing, describing this wheel as the best all-around wheel lacing ever designed.
To look at these Crow's Foot lacings, go to the following site, and also follow some of the internal site links at the bottom of the page:
http://www.geocities.com/spokeanwheel/lacingcf.htm
werewolf
12-21-07, 12:19 AM
Wow, you really know your stuff! And thanks for the great linko!
Thanks Ken.
Ken and 11.4 (and sometime dutret) are the real voices of knowledge on this forum I have noticed.
PS: If you want a bike to look that nice you need a professional photographer and someone who knows photoshop. I mean look at the pedal on the drive side. Think it 'naturally' balances with the clip forward? Ha! Ten bucks says there is a chop stick holding it up that was taken out in post production. :)
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