Road Cycling - Need Advice On Track Standing

Ok I wanna learn to track stand with a road bike. I've found this excellent guide:

http://www.teamestrogen.com/articles/asa_trackstand.asp

but like everything else, it's easier said than done. I don't have a BMX or Mountain Bike, so I can't practise on those first. So I need advice from those (hopefully) who can track stand. Should I be sitting, standing? And should my feet be level like in this guide or should I have them in the 12 o'clock and 6 o'clock poisitions?

level, for sure, standing with a fair bit of weight on the bars. Dont do it clipped in, use sneakers. use a slight uphill. Turn the bars towards your dominant foot (leading foot) for example I always start off with my right foot so i turn the bars so the wheel is pointing right, almost 90 degrees to the bike, and my leading foot (right) at 3 oclock and left at 9 oclock (looking from drive side.)

Brendon

Argh but it's so hard. I must have practised for at least 2 hours now but I can't even stay upright for a couple of seconds. How do you even get to the position where you can start?

IMO, learning on a flat surface is the worst way. You're 100% relying on balance and the spring of the front fork to hold you in place. Also, IMO track standing isn't true balancing it's actually incredibly small movements forward and backwards.

My theory is to learn on a very, very slight slope like where parking lots slope for rainfall transport.

Slowly roll along parallel to the slope and come to a stop standing on the pedals, centre your weight and with your ft wheel pointed up the slope. Pause for a second, feel how gravity rolls you backwards, apply enough pedal pressure so you don't roll back (fiddle with light front braking if you feel it's necessary) , pause a second then ride away.

Do lots of these short "intervals". What you're doing is learning how to balance and apply that small amount of force to hold the position. Once you can do these intervals comfortably then practice rocking back and forth several times against gravity. You can rock back and forth gently on a slight slope almost indefinitely.

When you have the hang of that you'll find track standing on flat surfaces to be relatively easy except now you don't have the hill and gravity so use your ft brake and the natural springiness in the front fork to provide the backwards push.

It is all a matter of brakes, foot position and angle of turn on fr wheel. There you go...I am no help at all

I gave up learning to trackstand on my road bike long ago until recently when I got into fixed gear riding. Within 3 fifteen minute learning attempts on my fixed gear, I was able to balance on one side. A week later, I was able to do it on my 'weaker' side. After I got pretty good at it, I attempted it on my roadbike and after several minutes, I got it. Of course, I can only do this on a slight incline, not unlike on fixed gear which makes no difference in surface grade as you can pedal back to retain balance.

George!