[Norwegian Speed]

I looking for a bike friendly routes in germany, nederl, belgium, aus, tsjekkia, ungarn, slovenia, Croatia.
Anybody have some very good links?

I was also wondering how it is to follow Rhine all the way from the beginning in Nederland out in germany and then jump over and follow Donau down to Ungarn?

I dont like camping sites, because they cost money and are in bad condition. I Norway we for the most have the right to camp where we want on ground that belongs to the state of Norway. We can also camp on private ground if we follow some rules. I know that is very special for Norway..
Is there countries in europe that are directly unfriendly for free camping?, any countries that show them self very friendly?

Just want some tips if you know one of the questions.

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[johann]

Check out www.ecf.com and www.eurovelo.com (the EuroVelo Cycling network across Europe) for a start.
Within Germany, a good place to start is the interactive cycle map at:

http://www.germany-tourism.de/cycling/cycling.htm

I don't have a web site URL, but I remember reading years ago about a list of farms throughout Europe that allowed inexpensive camping, or even sleeping in barns and such. Maybe another reader can provide more info.

[arie]

Routes are friendly, people are but camping is not friendly, i.e. free in most countries.
Youth hostels an idea? Hardly more expensive than the camping-sites.
The Rhine-Danube itinerary is pretty ok. But be aware of thepretty bad part in the German Ruhrgebiet. From Bonn southward it's marvellous. I can't comment the Ludwigshafen area.

[RossinChic]

A girlfriend and I cycled in Croatia a few years ago. (Dubrovnik - Montenegro - Albania and back and then the Dalmatian coast.) I would highly recommend Croatia and Montenegro, but don't go to Albania unless you are prepared for a third-world experience. We were prepared to crash-camp, but we never did. We were always able to find accommodations in private homes for 10 euros or less. (It was April -- early season.) I am familiar with your allemansrätten, but the main part of Europe seems much more developed than the Scandinavian countries. In Croatia for example, we would have had a difficult time finding an appropriate place to camp in the areas where we were traveling -- very developed along the coast. But very beautiful and not too much traffic. The situation there may have changed now, but ít is one of the places I would definitely go back to. I am also planning a tour for eastern Europe this May, and I have heard that Rt 11 in Hungary is a good road to ride. I agree that many camping facilities are unpleasant and overpriced (especially in Germany). When are you planning your trip for?

[fietslogies]

32 great bicycle routes in Belgium (sometimes crossing the borders of France, the Netherlands and Luxembourg), all of them using only towpaths along rivers and canals and abandoned railway tracks. Distances between 10 and 275 km.

http://www.bikely.com/listpaths/by/fietslogies

You can combine them the way you want. As an extra, I'm giving information about accomodation and local things to see and to do.

Have fun,
Fietslogies
Belgium

[rijwielenjacobs]

http://www.routeyou.com/home.en

[becnal]

Get a map from Esterbauer at www.bikeline.at They are great maps and take all the work out of planning a route. Go to Radtourenbücher, pick a country, and check out the map. I only use their maps, they are perfect.

Some of them are in English, but the fact that most are in German should deter no one. The maps are self-explanatory, and the text is just "tourism" info. The book includes everything you need, including info on shops, camp grounds and other accommodation, and the main sights.

[becnal]

This is a map of some good routes in Germany:
http://s98.photobucket.com/albums/l249/becnal/?action=view&current=deutschlandradwege.gif

[tulip]

I bought a couple of books from Cartovelo.com. The ones I got (France) are good resources.

http://ns31060.ovh.net/~cartovel/index.php?cPath=34&osCsid=d55ee4bcc1faed397e507dc703b65c50

[botto]

viamichelin.com and hit the 'by bike' option.