Singlespeed & Fixed Gear - The Concept Builds thread

Alright, I think it would be a good idea if we can have a thread where people can post ideas for new builds, as opposed to ones they already finished. It would be a good accompaniment to the "post pics" thread. Please, as always, try to stay on topic, and post lots of concepts!

I'll start.

I'm thinking of doing something with a Leader 720tr frame (can't really afford the 735 but it doesn't come in white anyway). I have a hub, I want to build it up with either a celeste, orange, or green Deep-V/Aerohead, can't really decide. With a white frame celeste or orange look great, and with a black frame green looks great. I want the only color to be the rear rim. I most likely wouldn't be able to afford an Aerospoke but if I did I would keep it stock black. Tell me your thoughts colorwise.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v390/blickblocks/th_bikeconcept1or.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v390/blickblocks/bikeconcept1or.jpg)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v390/blickblocks/th_bikeconcept1.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v390/blickblocks/bikeconcept1.jpg)

It would be super extra tight if these parts had names and functions instead being referred to by colour, as if they were god damned kool-aid recipies. :)

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I did the same thing (mine looks nicer - ;))

still in the building stage

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/6811/30751736dm2.jpg

i thought this thread was going to be about bianchi bikes =p

I did the same thing (mine looks nicer - ;))

still in the building stage



That flipped 17 degree stem or whatever will look ridiculous and feel awful if that saddle height (straighten the saddle when you build it, please) is remotely accurate. Maybe opt for a 10 degree Thomson stem that you can flip up when no one's looking.

Here's my white bike / colour rear rim bike ! :)



I sell a lot of Argon 18s and really respect the people at the company (some of the designers came down from Montreal to Toronto to visit us and answer all our questions about the bikes before we started selling them). Next year I'm going to pick up an Electron frameset to build up (for racing at the Forest City Velodrome, good times).

I sell a lot of Argon 18s and really respect the people at the company (some of the designers came down from Montreal to Toronto to visit us and answer all our questions about the bikes before we started selling them). Next year I'm going to pick up an Electron frameset to build up (for racing at the Forest City Velodrome, good times).

Yep, it's a great frame, the EL99 fork it comes with is really nice too, but unfortunately my skills are not enough to go brakeless at the moment so I had to swap it for something that could take a front brake.

That flipped 17 degree stem or whatever will look ridiculous and feel awful if that saddle height (straighten the saddle when you build it, please) is remotely accurate. Maybe opt for a 10 degree Thomson stem that you can flip up when no one's looking.

i agree entirely with what you say - still not 100 percent sure on bars and stem

i think i was using artistic license with some angles (seat, stem)

i agree entirely with what you say - still not 100 percent sure on bars and stem

i think i was using artistic license with some angles (seat, stem)

My initial impression is that the head tube angle is far too shallow - on a track/fixed frame it's almost certain to be far steeper, i.e., closer to 90 deg.

Here's my white bike / colour rear rim bike ! :)

http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/5484/electronqe7.jpg


This bike is messed up. It's not Fixed, it's FUBAR

i agree entirely with what you say - still not 100 percent sure on bars and stem

i think i was using artistic license with some angles (seat, stem)


You're gonna get that license revoked one day...

This bike is messed up. It's not Fixed, it's FUBAR

Thanks ! :)

we want a pista concept thread!

i want to make a bike out of all white things


or maybe black

i want to make a bike out of all white things


or maybe black

Why not taupe?

My initial impression is that the head tube angle is far too shallow - on a track/fixed frame it's almost certain to be far steeper, i.e., closer to 90 deg.

Or if you're going to actually work it out, maybe stick to between 73 and 75 for your head tube/seat tube angles, depending on what works for your needs/preferences. Wait, is that "frame" just a placeholder basically for whatever you end up getting, or would you have something made? I'm going to assume it's just a placeholder because no one would actually want angles that slack on a bike like you've spec'd.

Edit: Actually, I'd need a seat tube that slack to be able to use an Easton no-setback carbon post (long legs). Wait, I'm getting all rambley and sleep deprived. Go to bed, Mike.

Why not taupe?

:lol:

i thought all white was supposed to be ever-so-wrong, as all white bikes are to be left as memorials to cyclists taken on the street... meh

that is ALL white, very far from the classy white colour schemes ridden by living cyclists


i thought all white was supposed to be ever-so-wrong, as all white bikes are to be left as memorials to cyclists taken on the street... meh

blickblocks: I was trying to put my finger on it...but I've seen a bike similar to what you want to build:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=vjLj9_cg4JE

we want a pista concept thread!

Was at this shop in SF..

Funny how they had like 4-5 Pista Concept frames hanging in all sorts of sizes.

blickblocks: I was trying to put my finger on it...but I've seen a bike similar to what you want to build:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=vjLj9_cg4JE

Hey cool, the same exact look. The orange is kind of overpowering though, I think I'll go with celeste.

what exactly is the point of that video? (im not being snarky, I just really dont get)

what exactly is the point of that video? (im not being snarky, I just really dont get)

I agree..

Was at this shop in SF..

Funny how they had like 4-5 Pista Concept frames hanging in all sorts of sizes.

Hilarious....

i have a leader 735 & a pista concept..... and i'm half way through a build of leader 720 for my gf. this thread makes me feel kinda odd, but in a good way :rolleyes:

I really want to build up a leader frame

Was at this shop in SF..

Funny how they had like 4-5 Pista Concept frames hanging in all sorts of sizes.

i heard about that same shop.

i want one in white :D

Bike in video is a confirmed 2007 Leader 735TR repainted in white. We have sold over 50 track frames in Japan and have a dealer there as well. We are looking to make a special edition 735TR white frame with minimal, small decals mid summer. We will be coming out with a very high end double butted lugged steel frame. I do not have more info on the lugged frame so do not ask but in the time to come i will be posting more info. For the 720TR we will have a matching full aluminum aero fork that can be beat up on the street.

Here is a shot of the new 2008 frame and new aero alloy fork. 735TR be in stock by the end of the month fork in three weeks. keep checking www.leaderbikeusa.com for more info.

We will also be supporting and advertising on this site soon.

Brian

you guys should do a group buy on 735TR

If our profit margin was higher I am sure we could work in some kind of a discount. $289 for the 735TR or $149 for the 720TR is already set very low.

Brian

Not too sure the point of the video...but it's a good reference for the concept of blickblocks' idea of how their bike will look.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v390/blickblocks/bikeconcept2.jpg

Now that I'm more set on what I want to build...think the Mutant stem looks good or not? I almost want to build up a white rear wheel so the color is entirely limited to the stem.

I'm disappointed that there aren't many other people with bike sketches. :(

edit: here it is with the white Deep-V (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v390/blickblocks/bikeconcept2w.jpg)

mutants are the ugliest stem ever

mutants are the ugliest stem ever

What do you think would look better? That doesn't look like a plain black tube of aluminum?

A bit different from a lot of the current builds being discussed, but hey this is the FGSS subforum not the track forum but I want to go with a SS/FG mountain bike (already have my fixed road bike). Assuming it doesn't throw off the geometry too much I may go with a 69'er (26" in back 29" in front).

Haro Escape A2 Frame (Its silver and has a beautiful curved top tube)
Replacing suspension fork with rigid straight blade Zion fork.
Replace mountain wheelset with cyclocross wheelset flip flop hub in rear.
Cyclocross knobbies
Keep current crank although drop the granny ring and throw on a bash guard if possible.

I haven't decided on the cockpit yet. Currently since it is setup as my aggressive mountain bike (I'm switching to full suspension so hence the want to rebuild this into a SS/FG) so it has wide AM/DH risers. Anyone have any suggestions on the bars or stem? Maybe go back to a flat bar? Shallower risers? I want to really be able to cruise fast on less technical terrain, fire roads, etc.

What do you think would look better? That doesn't look like a plain black tube of aluminum?

thomson/salsa

Now that I'm more set on what I want to build...think the Mutant stem looks good or not? I almost want to build up a white rear wheel so the color is entirely limited to the stem.

I'm disappointed that there aren't many other people with bike sketches. :(

edit: here it is with the white Deep-V (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v390/blickblocks/bikeconcept2w.jpg)

this was my concept that I based me Iro on
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2080/2281277450_0ee1c45854.jpg?v=0
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3060/2281277428_c805d0faf8.jpg?v=0

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3176/2281409640_82a1806cb4_o.pngThe ultra tandem!

that 735 is SO attractive, I take back anything I have said about leader frames being ugly. for 289 it cant be beat, though I'd like to see it in white.

my concept build is a Hetchins with
an ASC hub--I'm wearing a Sherlock
Holmes cap and smoking a pipe
as I ride over dirt roads to see
my apothecary for some laudanum.

I think I'm going to try using some anatomical drops instead of my bullhorns. More hand positions plus a proper track look. And I get to use the Tiagra brake lever I found in the gutter (literally) on Western Ave in Allston. :D

http://aycu09.webshots.com/image/49568/2005730856276587179_rs.jpg

:( :( :(

^thats even worse

^thats even worse

But but but those are the only parts I have! :cry:

I could put my Lambda-V in front but that's not going to make it look better. Unless the fork is also polished. Which I don't think it is.

so wait, you are currently building up this frame now?

so wait, you are currently building up this frame now?

It was supposed to ship out yesterday but Brian (LeaderBike) forgot to list the seatpost in the Paypal money request, so I have to wait until he confirms that I paid for it.

Blickblocks, that black one looks great. I spent a couple of hours on sunday looking for a drawing/diagram like yours that I could color in to see how various color schemes might look. I couldn't find anything.

Is it possible that you could make one that was all white with the deep vs that I could use my low tech colored pencils on? Thanks.