Singlespeed & Fixed Gear - whats a good 29'er to convert?

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ChiapasFixed
01-02-08, 08:04 PM
for single track and mountain riding, hell yeah!
shapelike
01-02-08, 08:14 PM
Wait, what?
Convert a random 29er to singlespeed ... or convert something else into a 29er?
I don't know if we're talking ENO hubs or tire clearance.
jmichaeldesign
01-02-08, 08:23 PM
http://www.bikesdirect.com/products/motobecane/outcast29_08.htm
http://www.bikesdirect.com/products/motobecane/images/outcast29_600.jpg
Flip flop hub
anomaly
01-02-08, 08:58 PM
I would spend a bit more and get a Redline Monocog. Or a bit more and get a Ti IF...
Soma Juice. The drops allow single speed or geared use.
crushkilldstroy
01-02-08, 09:07 PM
I have no idea what the OP is talking about. If you're gonna buy a 9er, just get one that's already single speed. It makes absolutely no sense. It's like saying "what kind of new car should swap a manual transmission into?"
ChiapasFixed
01-03-08, 10:32 AM
yeah, i guess I was not clear. What i mean is, what is a good MTB frame i can pick up for cheeps that will take 29" tires to make a fixie MTB.
that motobecane is NICE, i was lusting over it just yesterday, just bolt a tomi cog on that baby and im good to go!
The motobecane comes with a fixed cog on a flip/flop hub. No need to bolt anything.
just get a gt peace9r or a motobecane outcast both very inexpensive and alot of fun
crushkilldstroy
01-03-08, 10:58 AM
just get a gt peace9r or a motobecane outcast both very inexpensive and alot of fun
On the serious, just do this.
How's your Motobecane working out, Retem?
ChiapasFixed
01-03-08, 12:31 PM
ok thanks, ill start saving my pennies ;)
asherlighn
01-03-08, 12:36 PM
I really like the Redline Monocog. Im sure the other 29ers around that price range are just as good. I dont think the motobecane comes with as good stock components, though I could be off on that.
Edit: I made a thread about this a few months ago and got some GREAT suggestions and info.
here is link - Which 29er Single Speed? (http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=347615)
http://a53.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/9/l_97ba9ec4afa105bab5677a5a9246bbe4.jpg
15" MC 29er frame, Halo Freedom disc rims, Schwalbe 2.35" Big Apples, Surly fixed free rear hub, 17t Surly Cog, Odyssey 33t chainwheel, Profile Racing cranks, Brooks B17, and profile riser bar. I'll mount my Cetma rack when I can get a hold of a skewer that will clear the lawyer tabs. The seat's been raised since this pic was taken last may.
i fear no pothole.
MadeInKIM
01-03-08, 02:15 PM
so i already have a SS mtb (redline monocog, older version with bmx rear-spacing), and i'm interested in trying out a 9er. Am i better off just getting a new SS 29er or converting my existing 26" monocog (with new parts, that way, the cost comparisons are for only new product)? It seems like the conversion would be a cheaper though not a long-term attempt at riding a 29er (a bad choice if you're already committed but not so bad if unsure).
Does this sound right? Anybody been in a similar situation?
asherlighn
01-03-08, 02:30 PM
so i already have a SS mtb (redline monocog, older version with bmx rear-spacing), and i'm interested in trying out a 9er. Am i better off just getting a new SS 29er or converting my existing 26" monocog (with new parts, that way, the cost comparisons are for only new product)? It seems like the conversion would be a cheaper though not a long-term attempt at riding a 29er (a bad choice if you're already committed but not so bad if unsure).
Does this sound right? Anybody been in a similar situation?
Im pretty sure it would be rather hard (impossible?) to convert from 26" to 29" on the same frame. The chain/seat stays/fork would be too short and the placement of brakes wrong.
radical_edward
01-04-08, 07:50 AM
Im pretty sure it would be rather hard (impossible?) to convert from 26" to 29" on the same frame. The chain/seat stays/fork would be too short and the placement of brakes wrong.
If you run discs and your frame can take 2.5-3" tyres, then you will probably be able to fit 29er wheels with skinny XC tyres.
It will be very tight, and your bottom bracket will be too high. If you are thinking of doing a custom 29er build in the long run then there is no harm in getting some wheels first and giving it a try. At the very least some nice fat 700x37-42 touring tyres will fit for some on tarmac speed thrills.
On the serious, just do this.
How's your Motobecane working out, Retem?
its groovy I have replaced the pedals the bars/stem headset and saddle as well as the tires and freewheels I have new wheels on the way and full fenders
it is a work bike after all
however it is still a great ride and its fun
I really like the Redline Monocog. Im sure the other 29ers around that price range are just as good. I dont think the motobecane comes with as good stock components, though I could be off on that.
Edit: I made a thread about this a few months ago and got some GREAT suggestions and info.
here is link - Which 29er Single Speed? (http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=347615)
stock redline monocog 29ers are tanky and the components stink
asherlighn
01-04-08, 10:03 AM
stock mc 29ers are tanky and the components stink
Yeah, I figured.
Bikesisland.com sells just the frame, which isnt that bad a deal.
Yeah, I figured.
Bikesisland.com sells just the frame, which isnt that bad a deal.
I meant rl monocog
how do you get motobecane from mc?
asherlighn
01-04-08, 10:16 AM
I meant rl monocog
how do you get motobecane from mc?
theres a m and a c!
The stock parts on the monocog arent too bad, none failed before I replaced them. Still using the stock wheels.
eh I just don't really like vp the 07' and 08' comes with the bottom of the barrel canecreek hs same as the moto cheapy pedals same as the moto
some cheapy rpm cranks(moto comes with truvativ stylo)
vp bars and stem same as moto
same brakes too
the wheels are probably better better seeing as the moto's rear axle is bad (or atleast mine is)
I test rode a monocog and didn't like the handling or the weigh
the moto is a 30# al bike the monocog is a 35# steel bike
oceanfx
01-04-08, 11:25 PM
http://a53.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/9/l_97ba9ec4afa105bab5677a5a9246bbe4.jpg
15" MC 29er frame, Halo Freedom disc rims, Schwalbe 2.35" Big Apples, Surly fixed free rear hub, 17t Surly Cog, Odyssey 33t chainwheel, Profile Racing cranks, Brooks B17, and profile riser bar. I'll mount my Cetma rack when I can get a hold of a skewer that will clear the lawyer tabs. The seat's been raised since this pic was taken last may.
i fear no pothole.
Do you ride it brakeless? If so, does that mean you're into park/street or jump it on dirt? If yes, hows the frame for those things....
fixedup
01-04-08, 11:35 PM
I want that motobecane 29er in white so bad now
Quacker
01-04-08, 11:43 PM
I dunno about you guys but I kind of really really want a Karate Monkey.
jdeane4
01-05-08, 07:49 AM
I dunno about you guys but I kind of really really want a Karate Monkey.
+1
ChiapasFixed
01-05-08, 08:15 AM
does the karate monkey fit 29'ers?
i really dig it
ChiapasFixed
01-05-08, 08:16 AM
ok, just looked at surly's website. KM is a 29'er.
expensive!
ChiapasFixed
01-05-08, 08:25 AM
hmm, but howabout the 1X1?
they say "plenty of clearnace, but can it be converted to a 29'er?
hmm, but howabout the 1X1?
they say "plenty of clearnace, but can it be converted to a 29'er?
it's got the clearance for a 29'er setup but it's kind of an odd setup (geometry) for trail use.
check out kona's unit 29'er. it's got paragon slider dropouts and full cable braze-ons. this makes the rear disc brake easier to work with and you can convert it to a geared bike at a later date if you would like. most cheaper ss mtb setups use track ends which are more of a handful to work with if you get a rear flat on the trail. steer clear of anything with an eccentric bottom bracket.
shapelike
01-05-08, 10:08 AM
steer clear of anything with an eccentric bottom bracket.
I've got to call bull**** on that as it's way too much of a generalization. A lot of EBB setups are reliable, easy to use and solve a lot of problems. That's not to say they're all without fault, but it's not a black and white issue.
For what it's worth, this is what I'll probably end up with this spring:
http://jamisbikes.com/canada/bikes/08_bikes/images/08_bike_images/08_EXILE29.jpg
And hopefully next year once I'm less po':
http://ninerbikes.com/images/one9green.jpg
The Jamis I'd buy as a complete (not offered as a f/s in Canadia), swap the saddle and stem and bars for parts that fit me better, upgrade the wheels ASAP and ride the rest until I start breaking stuff. The Niner I'd buy as a frame and fork (the Rock Shox one that Niner has an exclusive on in 2008) and then build up fairly blingy (XT, Thomson, DT Swiss, etc.).
http://jamisbikes.com/canada/bikes/08_bikes/08exile29.html <-- Jamis Exile SS 29er
http://ninerbikes.com/one9.html <-- Niner One 9
radical_edward
01-05-08, 10:46 AM
I've got to call bull**** on that as it's way too much of a generalization. A lot of EBB setups are reliable, easy to use and solve a lot of problems. That's not to say they're all without fault, but it's not a black and white issue.
Rather than discussing the merits of EBB technology in a vacuum, riders should be asking whether an EBB will work with their riding style and physique.
If you are a pedal masher, or are in the 200lb plus weight range, then you will probably be disappointed by your EBB frame. Horizontal track dropouts with chain tugs are going to cause you less hassle, especially at the budget end of things.
shapelike
01-05-08, 10:53 AM
Rather than discussing the merits of EBB technology in a vacuum, riders should be asking whether an EBB will work with their riding style and physique.
If you are a pedal masher, or are in the 200lb plus weight range, then you will probably be disappointed by your EBB frame. Horizontal track dropouts with chain tugs are going to cause you less hassle, especially at the budget end of things.
Hey look, more generalizations. Yaaay! I weigh 140# so I'll probably really enjoy my EBB frame ... unless I mash sometimes, at which point it'll fall apart ... or something.
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