Electric Bikes - 2nd Currie battery for eZIP mt trails

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tinleyiltom
01-06-08, 10:42 AM
Hello all--I think im having an unusual time, I purchased the eZIP from wal-mart..I think its pretty cool. The claimed mileage is not close to 25 miles, Id like another batt pack. When I google, I find this cloth like looking item. Does anyone know where the official battery in the rack mount case is located? I suppose my first call should be to Currie tech but the web leads to an Amazon store..If the battery is indeed the battery, then where do you get the silver batt case to mount on the rack.?
While the bike is unusually heavy, I think its rather well built. Ive had it for a few months and have around 100 miles on it. Looks great,rides great and a good price. Just need another battery and rack case..Tom
mike-on-da-bike
01-06-08, 10:51 AM
yep they are two 12 volt 10 amp hours batteries wired in series and replacements are easy to find.just make sure you get deep cycle lead acid 12 volt batteries panasonic make good ones and fullriver are the cheapest and they are good too,just measure the overall dimensoins of the ones you buy as not all of them will fit into these packs,check width height and length,the batteries come out very easy you just undo philips head screws on the inside of the packs.i also got my self two extra packs cheap and replacement batteries no probs yes they are heaVY BUT THAT the trade off for a good steel bike i just ride mine with one pack and use the others for spares
mike-on-da-bike
01-06-08, 10:56 AM
ps,i am looking down the track abit here thats why i mainly got the extra packs so when either lithium or nickel drops in price in the packs will go the new types then this currie will be flying reall good and i will get much better range,atleast 3 times more i think
mike-on-da-bike
01-07-08, 07:22 AM
did you buy your in australia if so there is a phone number on the battery pack which goes to currie tech in victoria they have all parts and the packs but notthe batteries,the batteries go inside those gray packs,forget amazon they got sweet f-all
tinleyiltom
01-07-08, 10:38 AM
mike, No I didnt buy in AU..Im here in Chicago,IL..USA...Im still web searching...I did interestingly find that this model is now avail online at target and dicks sporting goods..decent price
Target sku--10503764
Dicks sku---2657716
Tom
mike-on-da-bike
01-07-08, 10:25 PM
currie has there own website on here as well and you can also buy the bikes in aussie at kmart and over your way they got em also at walmart in big numbers
tinleyiltom
01-26-08, 06:11 AM
hatesnow--its not too bad. I wish there was another all-in-one option to get into e-bikes besides this eZip. It isnt all that bad, I like it so far. Look up the post a bit, I did find it now at Dicks sporting goods and target websites as well.
UPDATE...I did call Currie direct and asked for the 2nd battery and rack-case mount . The cs rep said that "calling them" was the only way to get it. It is on order so as soon as the midwest USA snow stops and melts, Ill charger it up and get a true milage for both batteries going. thanks much Tom
well i would save your money and buy a kit. those bikes are junk, there only good for a year and thay start to fall apart. the proshop i get my parts from refuses to service bicycles from walmart or canadian tire do to there
cheap parts. i have the zip from canadian tire that had the same parts, all thats left is the frame :>
mike-on-da-bike
02-02-08, 06:04 PM
nope he was asking about the battery packs not the rack,and just who are you yo tell me how to reply to someone?
mike-on-da-bike
02-02-08, 06:12 PM
these currie bikes not bad for the price much cheaper and more profesional than any kits,i think those kits are out of most folks reach from what they are telling me which is why they are going for the curries and anyways its the bike shops big loss for not fixing any as these bikes are replacing the others lol.these curries are gunna eat up them bike shops fast
mike-on-da-bike
02-02-08, 06:13 PM
and currie has authorised dealers to work on them
tinleyiltom
02-05-08, 02:35 PM
Well- After a wait, I did receive the battery as described from Currie . The picture above is how the bike is now. It slid right in the rack mount and looks great. Like I said before, Ill get it charged up and test ride when the snow melts. I am really excited. While anyone can debate back and forth, My goal was to start as economical as possible and so far I have. The second battery was around 100 shipped so Im invested just over 400. The giant suede E and other mongoose were more expensive and not readily available and the next leap up will be a 2007/2008 schwinn electric(which are $1600-$2000 usd). Ill say that this bike is heavy, each battery weighs around 18lbs. I just didnt want to buy a moped that pedals, I bought a bike with an electric motor. ! I am satisfied so far with my purchase and will re-post in the spring with my experiences. Despite other opinions, I would recommend this item from walmart, dicks sporting goods, target and give it a try. Thanks !! Tom
mike-on-da-bike
02-05-08, 03:56 PM
yes tom they are not bad for the money quiet cheap and with some simple mods you can have a nice bike,they are taking off here in sydney they are filling a big need where our public transport is failing badly,waiting times for a bus or train around here is wasting too much of folks time,i find taking my bike down the shop actually more fun than the car and i see lots more and get to chat to some folk along the way,i am not seeing any other types of bikes around only the curries so far.i have had no trouble with spares and i work on my own bike.
donob08
04-13-08, 02:06 PM
TinyTim
I've ordered a Currie E-Zip for the same reasons you suggested. It's a jumping off point. It hasn't arrived yet. But I would like to order a second battery. Is it true that the charger is integral? Could it be removed from a second battery.
Would you mind publishing the number, or sending it to me by email, please.
thanks
donob08
tinleyiltom
04-14-08, 06:25 PM
donob--call currie usa with the number from the website and place an order for a 2nd rack-mount battery for the e-Zip mt.trails. they'll send you one for abt 100 shipped (I forget the exact amt). Have a credit card ready. It does slide right in the rack. You already will have the charger when you get your bike. 6-8 hrs is the charge time mentioned. It uses the same charger so no worries there. I replied on another link started, it appears to have a 8-10 mile range if you DONT pedal, so with 2 batteries, im estimating a nice ride for about 30 miles as I assist. For now, its a total head-turner when Im zooming around......The 2008 one on the walmart site looks cool also.....Congrats on your purchase !!!
tinleyiltom
04-14-08, 06:29 PM
donob--My bike looks just like the posted link from hatesnow above......Also currietech.com is the website and their phone number is 1-800-377-4532........Good luck....Tom
hatesnow
04-14-08, 11:19 PM
Ok, my local Wal-Mart had an Ezip Trailz for well over a year sitting in the rack for $299.00 and no one bought it. They reduced it to clearance to $200, no takers. When they reduced it to $150.00, I bought it. I've been using it now since Feb. 15, 2008 for almost daily rides to the grocery store and other points around my very small town. If you think an electric bike is silent, think again. The motor is very loud and gets a lot of attention from people and dogs. Not good if you don't like attracting attention. My range is only about 5 miles. I'm sure this is due to the bike and battery sitting in the store for over a year with no charging or anything. I've called Currie 3 times so far, but after long periods of hold time, have still not talked to a human about possibly getting a new battery from the warranty. Aside from the low range and the motor noise, it has been a good strong bike. Very rear-heavy with one battery. I can imagine how heavy it would be with two batteries. The charger is separate and is not built-in. You can leave the battery on the bike and plug the charger into it with the 3 prong plug. The battery I have is fully charged in 2 hours or less after a ride that almost drains it. I also wish there was rear suspension.
And karma, regarding your statement about your bike "proshop" refusing to work on Curries or any other Walmart bike is a common tactic of bike shops, which are mostly mom and pop stores who can't compete with the giants. It in no way means the quality of a Currie or any other bike is inferior. It's just their way of trying to brainwash the public into thinking only their high-price bikes will do. I've checked out all those $1000+ bikes that are available and find them to be a big ripoff since their projected range is no better than even the cheapest bikes. I know looks is what some of you are after but not me. Range is at the top of my list. If you think buying a $1600 bike makes your ride better than the others, you're sadly mistaken. The biggest problem I see with Currie is their very poor service. You have to work your arse off to get any service from them. But it's that way almost everywhere these days. They get your mass-merchandise money and wait for the next sucker, which they know will come along.
ill admit when i worked at a italian pro shop for 15 years, i allso turned away a lot of service. most of it was
quality issues. its hard to put a warranty on my work when the parts are cheap and go out of Adjustment.
most wallmart and canadian tire bikes are great the first year you own it. after that its all down hill. main problem is how thay pack the Bearings, one idea is to take it home strip it down pick up some quality lithium
grease and repack everything. that will add a few years on the bike.
the included Deraulers will also need a light oil where the pins hold it together there soft steel if not aluminum
and where out fast.
even most pro shops have changed, there bikes come in boxs ready to assemble. im old school only thing
that came in boxs was parts and rims. my frames and wheels where hand made :) not factory. heh $1600
that price would have got you one of my wheels.
but for a ebike theres no problem with a all steel frame and parts, for safety, i can reach speeds of 43mph
and i feel safer knowing my frames all steel.
cheers
donob08
04-25-08, 07:00 AM
Tinyiltim, thanks for the info on buying from Currie (phone number). By the time I got your reply, I had ordered one from scootonthis, on the web. Their service, shipping, was good.
I've had the bike a few days now. Each day has involved between 25 and 30 miles of biking w/ a recharge at about the midpoint.
I am pleased. Everything works as advertised. It is a heavy bike. And yes the motor does make some noise, but BIG hills don't bring on heavy breathing anymore and I don't arrive sweaty. It's also nice to start after a "red light" and get through the intersection without worrying about what gear the bike is in.
tinleyiltom
04-26-08, 10:00 AM
Hey donob--thanks for the scootonthis website...I searched currie and low+behold..thats the slide-in battery pack. I think the price is fair from them. I just did an approx 26 mile with both batteries. I still say this is a great alternative..walmart eZip
hatesnow
04-28-08, 01:44 PM
mike-on-da-bike, I can't agree with you on the quiet part. My currie makes so much noise, it scares dogs and goats when I pass by. And all these years I thought electric bikes were silent.
brushless motors are silent:) well almost.
hatesnow
05-06-08, 03:30 AM
brushless motors are silent:) well almost.
Not even "almost". I ride my bike every day and I notice everything. I can see people turning around to see what the loud "whir" sound is from almost a block away. Silent would be great, but we're still not there.
donob08
05-12-08, 06:18 AM
Not even "almost". I ride my bike every day and I notice everything. I can see people turning around to see what the loud "whir" sound is from almost a block away. Silent would be great, but we're still not there.
I think everbody is right here. Brushless motors ARE silent. BUT the gear reduction hooked to the motor whines. Dogs do like my eZip Trailz.
donob08
05-25-08, 09:55 PM
Hey
My fuse holder works fine. I checked it at reception of delivery. You can get 40 Amp fuses at:www.monsterscooterparts.com. Being OLD, you check these things before you need them. I have 6 0r 8. I could send you one if monsterscoot is slow.
leamcorp
06-06-08, 12:30 AM
Hi all, I've just order one and it should be here in couple of weeks (deliver to store).
Since everyone think this is a good starting Ebike, I would like to know if this bike can be upgraded in the future. Here's couple of ideas,
1) can the motor be upgraded to Brush-less? I assume that its a brush motor at this point. What would be needed - new controller?
2) Can battery be upgraded - to lithium? or something else.
3) And, since this bike is quite heavy - can Ebike parts be removed to another bike? I have few bikes and they are much lighter.
Thanks for the info
hatesnow
06-10-08, 01:00 AM
If you're wanting to make THAT many changes, why don't you just buy a different bike to start with? You're really defeating the purpose of this low-priced, durable bike. No other motor would fit on this bike, at least in the same place the present motor is in. Lithium batteries are very expensive. Yes, you could use them but you'd have to take the Currie battery case apart and replace the lead acid batteries with the lithiums and rewire the whole thing. As long as you kept it at 24 volts, I don't think you'd have to mess with the controller. If you want a brushless motor, you could just put an electric hub on the front wheel. But then you would have to add yet more batteries and rewire things so that the hub and controller would run off those newer batteries or possibly switch between the Currie battery and the added battery. Sounds like way too much trouble and expense to go to. I don't know why the weight of the bike is an issue. Of course the lead acid Currie battery is heavy. All lead acid batteries are heavy. Maybe some people have to lift their bikes a lot. I don't. Even if I did, it's not that bad, but I'm in good enough shape to do it. I guess people who have to take it up stairs would have trouble. Otherwise, if it's just inclines, you can always let the bike drive itself.
hatesnow
08-31-08, 08:37 PM
Currie now has a blog. When I checked it today, there were no comments yet. Since their customer service is practically non-existent, this would be a good place to let them know about it.
http://blog.ezipusa.com
hatesnow
08-31-08, 08:42 PM
If you don't need a second matching battery pack in the original plastic case that fits on the frame and you just need to replace the batteries in your existing case, the following company has the exact batteries you need. There are also many other companies that sell these batteries, but this is one of them
http://www.batterymania.com/Catalog_3/E-Zip-Battery-Replacement
donob08
09-01-08, 12:20 PM
If you don't need a second matching battery pack in the original plastic case that fits on the frame and you just need to replace the batteries in your existing case, the following company has the exact batteries you need. There are also many other companies that sell these batteries, but this is one of them
http://www.batterymania.com/Catalog_3/E-Zip-Battery-Replacement
The batteries in my pack that came with my 2008 Ezip Trailz measure 5.88x2.63x4.63 that's LxWxH. This "replacement" battery says 5.94 x 3.86 x 3.84 inches. I think the 5.94 would fit. But the cavity in the case is only 2.81 inches deep. Neither of the other dimensions would appear to fit. It looks to be an inch too deep. Maybe their description is wrong.
http://www.scootonthis.com/prod_parts.html#Batteries says the have some replacements. They don't give measurements (or the note like batterymania that says check these against yours). They are more than the $68 for two that batterymania offers, $84-$114 for two. I've purchased from scootonthis before, they were good. I'd get more info from either before ordering. I can't find (googling for SLA companies) anything like the batteries we have dimensions, AmpHr, weight wise.
batterymania does have a battery that would fit " New Power-Sonic PS Series 6.5 to 18Ah PS-1270 F2" at http://www.batterymania.com/s.nl/it.A/id.5381/.f (http://www.batterymania.com/s.nl/it.A/id.5381/.f) It, like most I've seen that would fit, is 7.0AmpH not 10 like Currie specs. It is only $20 each, $40 for a complete pack refill.
http://www.atbatt.com/product/3541.asp#tabs attbatt has the real Power Sonic for $20 also and lists it as compatible with "Currie E-Ride Electric Mountain Bike"
Universal Battery sells at http://www.apexbattery.com/electric-scooter-ub12100-battery-miscellaneous-electric-scooter-batteries.html a 10 AmpH batt for $35.
The battery that comes from Currie is Enduring CB 10-12 from Zhongshan Hengli Elec. I can't find it on the web.
jameshymel
09-01-08, 08:28 PM
I called Currie Tech and spoke to an operator and ordered a spare battery and charger. $150 total for both. I just started riding my bike and found the distance for one battery was about 8 miles. I hope that after a few recharging cycles it can handle a couple of more miles. I bought the bike to ride to work a couple of times a week. The distance is 8 miles...
James
hatesnow
09-08-08, 08:24 AM
Yes, I was just taking them at their word and didn't go to the extreme hassle of taking the pack apart to measure, but it's a necessity to do all the measurements first before ordering from anyone. The complete battery packs for the ezip trailz have been appearing on some sites now and have just recently appeared on Currie's site. Some have pics and some don't.
offroad
01-08-09, 05:52 AM
The battery is available from Currie at this link for $120 which seems very steep in pricing. For $100 more some have purchased the whole bike.
http://www.izipusa.com/39-izip-rmb-battery-pack-bike-accessories.html
Has anyone built a replacement battery pack themselves?
hatesnow
01-12-09, 08:56 AM
The battery is available from Currie at this link for $120 which seems very steep in pricing. For $100 more some have purchased the whole bike.
http://www.izipusa.com/39-izip-rmb-battery-pack-bike-accessories.html
Has anyone built a replacement battery pack themselves?
Wiring two batteries in series isn't a big deal but making a case from scratch to match the other one and actually making it fit in the slots would take quite a feat of engineering.
abu_pinhus
01-26-09, 12:41 PM
read specs on Carrie website - it is a brushless motor
bike for a year
02-07-09, 09:40 PM
i have an e-zip trailz and need a cheaper battery than what Currie wants, $120, for a new pack. Can anyone help with an alternative?
abu_pinhus
02-09-09, 08:58 AM
go to local bike dealer, even one from currie list and ask to change batteries - using same case - it may cost you less. (it cost me $100)