Foo - Would you call November Rain a Power Ballad?

or Sweet Child o Mine for that matter? I say no..

Discuss.

I would say November Rain is a power ballad except the last 2 minutes of the song, it is a fantastic song. Sweet Child 'o Mine, not a power ballad, still a great song nevertheless.

Great band though, unfortunately most my peers never listen to this kind of music. Most people my age grew up with Pop and Rap.

November Rain - voted one of the best guitar solos ever.

November Rain - quite possibly.

Sweet Child O' Mine - negative.

November Rain - voted one of the best guitar solos ever.



Slash is awesome.



November Rain is the tits.

GNR is one of the best acts from the hair metal era which was mostly crappy. I still think Appetite is the best though.

November Rain yes. One of my favorite songs by GnR.
Sweet Child Of Mine...no. Good song, but not a power ballad.

I thought GnR was a very good band...not a great one. I always liked Slash...still do.

Watch the video and decide.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4QXnggs37w

I say it is a power ballad. Starts out all slow and finishes with that great solo.

The live version in Argentina! :eek:


Man, if they could have stayed together long enough for me to have caught them live. Damn, damn, damn.

GNR is one of the best acts from the hair metal era which was mostly crappy. I still think Appetite is the best though.


I :love: AfD !!!

Guns changed when Izzy left, though..........
Id call November Rain too ponderous to listen to all the way to the end.

But, yeah.....80's hair is Da b0mB !!!

Patience


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Best song they ever did. Def a power ballad.

Patience


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Best song they ever did. Def a power ballad.

Great song but not power ballad.
November rain is definitely a power ballad.

November Rain is the quintessential power ballad.

without a doubt a power ballad

Uh, yeah

Is this the "I feel old when" thread? 'Cause I do now. I don't have any idea who the hell y'all are talkin' about. :o


















:cry:

Great song but not power ballad.
November rain is definitely a power ballad.



Well, yeah...the band doesn't come in with pomp, no solo, etc..

Is this the "I feel old when" thread? 'Cause I do now. I don't have any idea who the hell y'all are talkin' about. :o:cry:


November Rain came out in the very early '90s and GNR had already been around a while by then. Maybe you're too young to remember? ;) I remember seeing that video for the first time and Slash's solos are forever etched in my brain as the coolest things ever to grace a music video.

I'd say yes to November Rain being a power ballad.
Sweet Child of Mine - no.

Whats every think of Poison's "Every Rose has its Thorn"?

Heh. I think I'm too old. I quit listenin' to "today's" radio around '92, and wasn't listenin' all that much then. Who is GNR?

Ok, I remember Poison's "Every Rose Has It's Thorn" from eatin' dinner in front of my TV during grad school and probably seein' them on MTV or whatever was playin' music vids in '92-'93. I liked that ballad.

Guns'N'Roses. Don't feel bad, I feel ancient when my coworkers start talking about current movies, tv, and radio since I never participate in those things. The thing is, I'm not much older than them, just weirder. :D

Great song but not power ballad.
November rain is definitely a power ballad.


Oh wait, you're from Canada eh?. No such thing as a "Hoser Power Ballad", sorry.:D

Heh. I think I'm too old. I quit listenin' to "today's" radio around '92, and wasn't listenin' all that much then. Who is GNR?Oookay, then it's not so much the dates of when you actually stopped listening to radio. It's what type of music you were listening to. GNR was HUUUUUUUGGGGE around 1987 and 1988. And even if you just had a little 'rock n roll' in you, you couldn't have missed this heavy metal band. Maybe you were just a 'little bit country'? :D

I was certainly "country," but no Marie Osmond, if that's what the hell you're implyin'! :mad:

Ok. Now I know who GNR is. We didn't use these "shortcut" acronyms back in the day. Why? Because there was no need. No one knew what "text-lingo" was, and we could all take the extra seconds to just type it out. :rolleyes:

lol omg! brb!

I know a lot of people think the guitar solo from 'November Rain' is one of the greats, and I think it was very well played, however I feel its popularity overshadows an equally impressive solo from the same vintage.

The solo in question is Kirk Hammett's solo in 'Unforgiven'.

I love that solo. He put a great deal of work into finding the right vibe for it to fit the song. You even see some of the debate between he and Bob Rock in 'Y&AHITLOM' on the structure of the solo and how it should go.

I think it turned out really well, and there are not many solos I like as much.

dude, firehouse was so much better than GnR. Don't treat me bad was the best song EVAR written..........













































:rolleyes::D

The solo in question is Kirk Hammett's solo in 'Unforgiven'.

Ooh that is a fine one too, although I'm not a huge Metallica fan. Actually I rarely listen to any of this music, I'm more of a Bix Beiderbecke kind of guy. :D

I would say November Rain is a power ballad except the last 2 minutes of the song, it is a fantastic song. Sweet Child 'o Mine, not a power ballad, still a great song nevertheless.


+1,000

.....must...resist...typing...

blurts out GnR is easily one of the most incompetent displays of musicianship since Bo Donaldson and the Heywoods!!!

Bad Spreggy, don't poke the Foosters! By nice to people with different tastes!

:p:p



(besides Matt Sorum, who is a fine, fine drummer. omfg Slash, you kids and your "we don't know our guitarists" thing). And November Rain? I'll bet that orchestra ran home and apologized to their beautiful instruments, and lit a candle in honor of Stradivari's birthday just to be sure.

or Sweet Child o Mine for that matter? I say no..

Discuss.


Don't kid yourself. November Rain yes YES HELL YES!

If you don't think that is a power ballot then your either a girl or you like very very light music you toe tapper you. Sweet Child not so much but it still infringes on it. I hated that song about the 10th time I heard it and every 30th time I heard it that day for the following 5 years :mad:

Patience= I think I'll go slash my wrists. :mad: HATED IT FIRSTTIME I HEARD IT!!

G&R :rolleyes: One of the greatest Heavy Metal bands ever :roflmao:
That's right up there with Jethro Tull winning the award for best heavy metal album of the year :roflmao:

Don't kid yourself. November Rain yes YES HELL YES!

If you don't think that is a power ballot then your either a girl or you like very very light music you toe tapper you. Sweet Child not so much but it still infringes on it. I hated that song about the 10th time I heard it and every 30th time I heard it that day for the following 5 years :mad:

Patience= I think I'll go slash my wrists. :mad: HATED IT FIRSTTIME I HEARD IT!!

G&R :rolleyes: One of the greatest Heavy Metal bands ever :roflmao:
That's right up there with Jethro Tull winning the award for best heavy metal album of the year :roflmao:

I wouldnt say GNR is heavy metal. Close but still rock..

The quality of the guitar solo is what makes me question if it s a power ballad. The lyrics sound like a love song but I guess on closer inspection most power ballads are love songs. Besides when I think power ballad I think "Love Bites" and something in that vein.

Meanwhile I am in agreement about Appetite For Destruction being some of their best work.

November Rain is the quintessential power ballad.

I think Cinderella's Don't Know What You Got Till It's Gone song is the quintessential power ballad.

Estranged was on the level of November Rain, the two guitar solo by Slash in Estranged is just as good as November Rain, if not better, but the song was just not as popular as November Rain.

November Rain - voted one of the best guitar solos ever.

In the interest of being an open minded kinda guy, I sat thru the two guitar solos and the ending solos, and I'm tellin' you that is the simplest and most unimaginative guitar playing you are gonna find on a record. Really, there's just nothing redeeming about it. No ideas or chops, just basic tugs around the melody. "My first band" kinda stuff. I was looking forward to making the "Hey, maybe he can play" post, but nah, he's got no game. And Axel Rose in front of an orchestra, at the piano? I bet he paid the strings triple scale to sit thru that pose-fest.

Now what would Jeff Beck, Satriani, Eric Johnson, Jimi, Jimmy, or Eddy have done with that, to name a few? Sorry, little patience for people who can't play.

personally my taste concurs with Spreggy,
I think GnR are over rated, Slash is an ok guitarist and
Axel Rose is a waste of space.
guitar? Lars on unforgiven for sure, and Ritchey Sambora (sic?) is no hack.
Al DiMieola Race with the devil on spanish highway,
Steve Vai, SRV also not half bad.
and lets not forget David Gilmore, very underated as a guitar slinger imho.

personally my taste concurs with Spreggy,
I think GnR are over rated, Slash is an ok guitarist and
Axel Rose is a waste of space.
guitar? Lars on unforgiven for sure, and Ritchey Sambora (sic?) is no hack.
Al DiMieola Race with the devil on spanish highway,
Steve Vai, SRV also not half bad.
and lets not forget David Gilmore, very underated as a guitar slinger imho.

Look at lotek, coming outta left field with an Al diMeola reference. The force is strong in this one!

Hey I saw Vai tour with Zappa Plays Zappa last summer, 3 hrs of bliss I tell ya. I still get a little weepy remembering it.

Spreggy & lotek I agree with you darn near every word!

personally my taste concurs with Spreggy,
I think GnR are over rated, Slash is an ok guitarist and
Axel Rose is a waste of space.
guitar? Lars on unforgiven for sure, and Ritchey Sambora (sic?) is no hack.
Al DiMieola Race with the devil on spanish highway,
Steve Vai, SRV also not half bad.
and lets not forget David Gilmore, very underated as a guitar slinger imho.

Holy crap that was some insane finger and pick speed.

My Michelle best song ftw.

In the interest of being an open minded kinda guy, I sat thru the two guitar solos and the ending solos, and I'm tellin' you that is the simplest and most unimaginative guitar playing you are gonna find on a record. Really, there's just nothing redeeming about it. No ideas or chops, just basic tugs around the melody. "My first band" kinda stuff. I was looking forward to making the "Hey, maybe he can play" post, but nah, he's got no game. And Axel Rose in front of an orchestra, at the piano? I bet he paid the strings triple scale to sit thru that pose-fest.

Now what would Jeff Beck, Satriani, Eric Johnson, Jimi, Jimmy, or Eddy have done with that, to name a few? Sorry, little patience for people who can't play.I didn't say it was my opinion. I said it was "voted one of the best guitar solos ever".

Here's the quote from Wiki: "This song is listed at number 6 in the "The 100 Greatest Guitar Solos" by Guitar World."

And here's the Wiki link (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/November_Rain).

I didn't say it was my opinion. I said it was "voted one of the best guitar solos ever".

Here's the quote from Wiki: "This song is listed at number 6 in the "The 100 Greatest Guitar Solos" by Guitar World."

And here's the Wiki link (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/November_Rain).

Yes. In a mainstream mass market crowd it's great.
When you get into the fringes where all the greats usually reside because of their disdain of the mainstream, things are a little different.

Once they pass away the mainstream usually digs them out and goes "Oh wow listen to this" even though it may be 5 or more gears old.

Hendrix was a really good player up until the time he died. Then he became great. Same thing with SRV.

I was certainly "country," but no Marie Osmond, if that's what the hell you're implyin'! :mad:Ooops, sorry! :o Didn't mean anything by it! I just wanted to point out that you may have different musical tastes.



Ok. Now I know who GNR is. We didn't use these "shortcut" acronyms back in the day. Why? Because there was no need. No one knew what "text-lingo" was, and we could all take the extra seconds to just type it out. :rolleyes:Except that they used "GNR" in the title of their second 1988 album "G N R Lies". he-heh-he... ;)

Just goes to show you, NaBlade, that I had my mind on other things than buyin' music (and seein' album covers) in '88. ;)

Unbearable cheesiness. It's like Lifetime for butt-rockers.

Ironically, I am listening to that album now...I still like GnR

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Sorry I don't "still" like gnr. When they were great, they were great. I still listen to the old stuff.

Same thing with SRV.

I would disagree, SRV had the respect of other guitar players before he died. He was better than most.


on the original topic, I would have to consider November Rain a Power Ballad.

And Axle Rose may be a waste of space, but he had an outstanding backup band.

Yup everything is definitely fitting the power ballad description.

November Rain = yes

Sweet Child = no

Patience


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Best song they ever did. Def a power ballad.

While it is a great song, I don't know if I would call it a "power ballad" as much I would call it a ballad since it was done with acoustic guitars not electric. That is rule I used to use, but like it really matters. It is a great song.