Clydesdales/Athenas (200+ lb / 91+ kg) - Has this happened to you?

I have lost 50lbs this last year. From 260 to 210 from 44 wast to 36. Now all my overweight friends started telling me I had lost enough after about 20lbs. They say if I reach my goal of 190 I will look sick. And now if I am around them at church {I am a pastor** worse even baptist {we think we have to eat every time we meet** And we have food they try there best to get me to eat sweet stuff and they know that is my weekness. You would think they would try to help but I think they want me back in the same boat with them. Sorry I know this is off subject but I needed to tell some folks that would understand.

Thanks
Tom
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Become an Episcopalian or a Zoroasterist?
But . . . congrats on the loss!

First off - congrats!!! That's a phenomenal amount to lose and no small feat!

Had it happen with a gf (who was a bit 'big boned' but not too much) - the more I lost the less she was interested in me. Wound up breaking up but am now with someone incredibly supportive in all aspects of my life - amazing how much of a difference that is!!

What's your height? I'm 6-1" and very broad; if I was 190 I wouldn't look good; I don't care which chart you put in front of me.

I am 6'. I am 55 don't care how I look anymore just want to be healthy and get up hills on my bike better.

I have lost 50lbs this last year. From 260 to 210 from 44 wast to 36. Now all my overweight friends started telling me I had lost enough after about 20lbs. They say if I reach my goal of 190 I will look sick. And now if I am around them at church {I am a pastor** worse even baptist {we think we have to eat every time we meet** And we have food they try there best to get me to eat sweet stuff and they know that is my weekness. You would think they would try to help but I think they want me back in the same boat with them. Sorry I know this is off subject but I needed to tell some folks that would understand.

Thanks
Tom
]

I think that's the only problem with being a Baptist (another Baptist here, my wife is going through the ordination process right now), although it's worst in a multicultural church where there are a large number of folks from the West Indies..... Especially when your like me, and gain weight by looking at food.

You're my hero, keep it up. Don't let them pull you back in.

As the pastor of the Church it is also your responsibility to lead by example. I have been at 245 forever. It is my weakness as well. You should have them help you by confessing it as a weakness to them and ask for prayer support. Without knowing your height I would still say 190 is not too thin and is a resonable weight. All potlucks have some form of health choice's, they will get use to it if you continue avoiding the sweets. If not, just have a couple of sermons on gluttony.;)

Agape,
Brian

First off, great job with the weight loss. And yes, people do not like it that you are looking better than them and feeling better about yourself. Yes, they will try to suck you in, and they think you will be happy. I was actually stopped by two old co-workers that didn't know who I was, but they saw my wife and daughter, so they figured it out. I told them how I am doing it (eating right and exercising) and they didn't want to hear that, they wanted to hear about a magic pill that does it for them and they can drink all the beer in the world. Then I told them I still had another 50 pounds to go and they told me I would look sick. I went from a 48 inch waist and I am currently wearing 33 waist jeans. My goal is 31 waist jeans and I think if I stick with it I can do it.

Don't worry about the people that will think you will look sick. Remember that you are doing this for you, and sometimes you need to be selfish. I understand that you are a leader of a church, but doing things for you will also help them.

KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK !!!!!

Congrats on the weight loss. Just make sure you wear bulky clothing around the church so they can't see how thin your getting.

When my wife and I first met I was 6'2" and 115lbs very wiry. Last year oh 17 years later I was 6'2" over 300lbs and not so wiry :o She says I looked sickly thin back then but I was a starting off/def lineman on my highschool team (8-0 go blue wave!) at that weight so I wasn't that sickly.

I'm now down under 260 and she thinks I'm going to be too thin soon but I just recently was able to fit into XXL bibs so I don't think I'm too thin. People I know try to fatten me up now saying I can eat more cake since I can just ride it off or if I don't I'll melt away. Other folks are a pretty big obstacle but it is well worth it and with practice hopefully can be worked around.

I'm about 245 right now. Althoug I am now carrying more than I 'd like, when I get down to 220, my family starts telling me to go to the doctor's. They think I starve myself but actually eat well, just no junk. That and riding my butt off up the mtns is a sure way of weightloss. Just been lazy the last couple of years.

So either I'm starving myself or I'm about to go into a diabetic coma according to them!:D

Yep, it happens to me too.....

Family gatherings, they literally force food on me. Fortunately, I was able to larn 'em a bit though. It just took some time. My Mother still thinks I'm starving to death. This is in spite of the fact that I'm in better shape now than when I was a teenager and have the blood chemistry and blood pressure smack dab in the middle of perfect, and a resting HR of 50-54, at the age of 48.

My primary care Dr is wanting me to help him get active in the Spring :D We go bike and trainer shopping this weekend. ;) He likes my progress :D

Thanks for the understanding. My Doc is happy also. Off my long time blood pressure med and reflux med. I did this for me and I am going the rest of the way for me. They mean well they just have not worked as hard as I have to get it off. God bless you all and keep up the good work.
Tom

You need to do what is right for you- stick with your program, stay healthy, set an example for other people.

hey Tom!

I'm a Baptist Pastor too! Working on losing weight again. Have fallen in love with the road bike. Keep it up!

Misery loves company!

I've lost 133lbs in the last year and I've had many comments too. While there are many supportive people, there are those that aren't because it reminds them of their shortcomings. Stay strong and don't give in to the enablers.

If not, just have a couple of sermons on gluttony.

Good Answer

I have lost 50lbs this last year. From 260 to 210 from 44 wast to 36. Now all my overweight friends started telling me I had lost enough after about 20lbs. They say if I reach my goal of 190 I will look sick. And now if I am around them at church {I am a pastor** worse even baptist {we think we have to eat every time we meet** And we have food they try there best to get me to eat sweet stuff and they know that is my weekness. You would think they would try to help but I think they want me back in the same boat with them. Sorry I know this is off subject but I needed to tell some folks that would understand.

Thanks
Tom
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Hi Tom,

You will find that many people have a distorted opinion of what is a "healthy" weight. When I was 242, about 20 pounds more than my doctor and trainers at my gym thought I should weigh, I had coworkers tell me I was too thin. Now that I've regained about 20 pounds - my first regain since beginning weight loss two years ago, these same folks are happy.

Of course, it's possible their happiness isn't due to a misguided concern for my health. Many obese people nurture hatred of the formerly fat. Jared Fogle, the Subway spokesman, seems to be a lightening rod for criticism. Read
http://www.snopes.com/radiotv/tv/subway.asp
for some examples.

Look carefully. Are these folks colored green (with envy)?

They are simply a bit jealous - they can't lose weight, and they don't want you showing them up.

Congratulations on the loss.

I'm 6'-2" with a big build (24" shoulder width, 50" chest, and 38" waist) and am now down to about 260 lbs. I was 360 lbs three years ago. Most of this weight loss was due to dieting and cutting out pretty much ALL sweets (diagnosed as Type II diabetic). I've been bicycling since about April of 2007.

Everyone I meet who knew me from before tells me how great I look (which is encouraging), and ask me if I'm going to loose more. I tell them that the first 100 lbs is the easiest, but that I'd like to lose another 20 or 30 lbs.

I no longer find it a problem to avoid sugary stuff - doughnuts and cookies and things like that just no longer seem to appeal to me. My biggest problem is that I travel a lot for my job, and when you have to eat in restaurants you have absolutely NO IDEA what they put in your food - even if you try to make a "healthy" choice you may find your next glucometer stick is sky high.

Yup, I've heard it before too. A little over 10 years ago I managed to get myself in really good shape and had my weight down to a great level, but definitely not anorexic. My mother complained that I looked unhealthy. It's a pity that many in our society feel that a person needs to carry extra pounds to look healthy.

I'm having similar motivation problems with my wife. She agrees I'm fat, tells me that I should lose weight, but continues to buy the snacks she knows I can't resist (I know she's not forcing me to eat them) and complains every time I say I'm going to exercise. I've learned to ignore the complaining, but it sure would be nice if she'd learn to support exercising.

I am a Lutheran pastor. In past decades when I was dropping weight my wife would begin to sabbotage my diet. I think she was afraid I might look attractive to other women if I reached my goal weight(s). At age 61 women are now saying I have such a beautiful full head of gray hair. They said nothing about what is under the hair (my mind). What a shallow bunch! Did I mention these are women in their 80's?

Parish ministry involves so much work from a sedentary posture. Recently the University of Missouri discovered an enzyme that carries fat to the muscles for burning just quits working when we are sitting and the fat packs in around major organs. Also, women at church enter into some kind of wierd competition I call "The Battle of the Desserts." Each has to outdo the other when serving refreshments at some function. There is no way the pastor can refuse a serving.

Another problem is food addiction. It is easy to use food to get us through the pain of stress and emotional conflict. There are 20 disturbing questions at this link (http://www.foodaddicts.org/quiz.html) about our relationship to food. All it takes is one malcontent in a congregation to put us in his crosshairs, and we have lots of stress to handle. When pastors handle stress with excessive amounts of alcohol or chasing other women, it becomes occupationally hazardous leading to unemployment. Food is one of the few socially acceptable addictions we can have. Riding a bike is also a socially acceptable addiction, but with far fewer adverse effects.

I think about Mike Huckabee. He was an active Baptist pastor before entereing politics. He shed about 100 pounds after learning he had diabetes. I keep wondering if he might have avoided the diabetes if he hand shed the 100 pounds earlier, or never gained that weight at all.

Keep working at losing the weight. 190 pounds will make you look thinner than you are now, but you will not look too thin.

Tom, what an amazing transformation you have done for yourself! I am sure that through a constructive confrontation with the congregation (that's a lot of "C's") they should come around. After all, our body is a temple (1 Cor. 6:19-20), and we should be "holy and pleasing" to God as a form of worship (Romans 12:1). These verses are what have me working to lose weight and become more healthy as a part of becoming a better, stronger Christian. Your congregation should understand and respect that.

Good luck!
-Frank

You know what....

That's a core of a Sermon ;) If you have the pulpit, why not use it as a platform to benefit the flock and help them get healthy. :D


Tom, what an amazing transformation you have done for yourself! I am sure that through a constructive confrontation with the congregation (that's a lot of "C's") they should come around. After all, our body is a temple (1 Cor. 6:19-20), and we should be "holy and pleasing" to God as a form of worship (Romans 12:1). These verses are what have me working to lose weight and become more healthy as a part of becoming a better, stronger Christian. Your congregation should understand and respect that.

Good luck!
-Frank

Tom, what an amazing transformation you have done for yourself! I am sure that through a constructive confrontation with the congregation (that's a lot of "C's") they should come around. After all, our body is a temple (1 Cor. 6:19-20), and we should be "holy and pleasing" to God as a form of worship (Romans 12:1). These verses are what have me working to lose weight and become more healthy as a part of becoming a better, stronger Christian. Your congregation should understand and respect that.

Good luck!
-Frank

That is what started me going to LA weight loss. They have helped me to loose what I have. The Lord convicted of how can I stand and preach against harmfull things and at the same time kill myself with food. I think you and Tom are right some preaching on these verses may help them to see the light.

That is what started me going to LA weight loss. They have helped me to loose what I have. The Lord convicted of how can I stand and preach against harmfull things and at the same time kill myself with food. I think you and Tom are right some preaching on these verses may help them to see the light.
Just remember the some part.
A certain relative of mine gives sermons somewhere out in PA and got on this getting healthy kick. She started talking more and more about health and exercise people taking care of their body etc etc. Some people got really offended, complained about it and didn't come back.
She is kinda whacky though she keeps pushing me on some powder that will cure all my ill's. I'll smite my marfan syndrome with this colored sawdust once and for all ;)

Just remember the some part.
A certain relative of mine gives sermons somewhere out in PA and got on this getting healthy kick. She started talking more and more about health and exercise people taking care of their body etc etc. Some people got really offended, complained about it and didn't come back.

Reminds me of a good story I heard, a story that may even be true:

A new pastor in an Iowa church preached one Sunday on the evils of smoking. The congregation gave a lukewarm response to the sermon. Afterwards a church member took him aside and spoke to him. "A lot of us work for a tobacco company or on tobacco farms. That's not a good topic to preach on."

The next Sunday he ascended the pulpit and preached on the evils of war. Again the congregation seemed less than pleased. And again someone pulled him aside and explained, "a lot of us work for the military, or companies that sell to the military. Try another subject."

Come Sunday, he preached to his flock on the evils of drinking and being drunk. The church wasn't enthusiastic at all. Later, someone told him "a lot of us work for bars or breweries, or we like to relax with a a few beers after work. You should find another subject for a sermon."

The pastor took this advice to heart. The next Sunday the church was very enthusiastic after the sermon. Churchmembers came up and complimented him for his powerful speaking on the evils of fishing in another country's territorial waters.

I've been lucky, most people have been supportive though my 3 brothers in law jokingly told me I had to put on about 15-20#'s so their wives would stop bugging them.


I'm 6' and 196, I feel like I look pretty good but I still have a gut to get rid of. Don't worry about what they tell you, worry about what your doc says and how you feel.

Reminds me of a story....catch a bunch of crabs, put 'em in a bucket...when one starts to climb out, the others will reach up and pull it back...sound familiar?

Just remember the some part.
A certain relative of mine gives sermons somewhere out in PA and got on this getting healthy kick. She started talking more and more about health and exercise people taking care of their body etc etc. Some people got really offended, complained about it and didn't come back.

Preachers don't preach on a topic, they preach on an exegesis (intense, short term, but detailed study) of a scripture passage, it is possible to give a one hour exegetical sermon on John 11:35, I heard one (but the preacher in question had a doctorate in preaching). The body as a temple, could work, when taking about it in the context of diet and exercise as part of a healthier lifestyle. Probably best to have ONE sermon on it, then have an information session at another time, which could be a bunch of sessions, depending on interest.

Good job Tom! I'm proud of you. Sorry your friends are playing those games with you. I watched my wife go through a similar thing recently. About a year ago, she was diagnosed type 2 diabetic. She completely changed her diet and started exercising some. She has lost about fify pounds and looks realy good. (even got a few comments from some friends of mine!) At family functions though, people keep trying to force feed her things no diabetic should eat. Cake, pie, etc. Her mom followed her around on her birthday with a piece of cake on a fork, trying to put it in her mouth! Her mother is a nurse. Figure that one out. Any way.... to answer your question, yes. It happens. I don't know why friends and family can be so unthinking and hurtful. Just pray for them. That's the only thing I can think to do. Keep up the good work!

I have lost 50lbs this last year. From 260 to 210 from 44 wast to 36. Now all my overweight friends started telling me I had lost enough after about 20lbs. They say if I reach my goal of 190 I will look sick. And now if I am around them at church {I am a pastor** worse even baptist {we think we have to eat every time we meet** And we have food they try there best to get me to eat sweet stuff and they know that is my weekness. You would think they would try to help but I think they want me back in the same boat with them. Sorry I know this is off subject but I needed to tell some folks that would understand.

Thanks
Tom
]

Hi Tom,

While on the subject of obesity and how we perceive it...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22477703/from/ET/?gt1=10755

HOUMA, La. - A 6-foot-3, 265-pound man says a restaurant overcharged him for his trips to the buffet line, then banned him and a relative because they're hearty eaters.....

....Labit and Borrelli said they felt discriminated against because of their size. "I was stunned, that somebody would say something like that. I ain't that fat, I only weigh 277," Borrelli said, adding that a waitress told him he looked like he a had a "baby in the belly."

I have lost 50lbs this last year. From 260 to 210 from 44 wast to 36. Now all my overweight friends started telling me I had lost enough after about 20lbs. They say if I reach my goal of 190 I will look sick. ... I am 6'..

Going from 260 to 190 will make anyone look drastically different, but at 6' 190 pounds you are no way thin or "too thin."

I am 6'1" and got down to about 192, and checking some of the charts on weight (no links handy, sorry) I was STILL considered overweight by most charts, with them saying I should be under 189 or maybe even 180 to be in a healthy weight category. I remember one chart saying if I got under 144 pounds then I would be considered too thin, but anything from like 144-180 was a healthy weight for me. Anything higher I was considered "overweight." I would imagine at your height and weight the charts would be about the same. So keep loosing, and with weight loss and and increase in leg strength, wait until you see how much easier hills will be!

I am 6'1" and got down to about 192, and checking some of the charts on weight (no links handy, sorry) I was STILL considered overweight by most charts, with them saying I should be under 189 or maybe even 180 to be in a healthy weight category. I remember one chart saying if I got under 144 pounds then I would be considered too thin, but anything from like 144-180 was a healthy weight for me. Anything higher I was considered "overweight." I would imagine at your height and weight the charts would be about the same.

Last week I awoke during the night and listened for a while to the radio I have on the nightstand with ear buds and a key pad for tuning. I do not remember the program, but they were discussing a test, the results of which were that men with a little extra weight and "love handles" have more favorable mortality rates (longer lives) than those who weigh what the charts say they should. It was quite a shock to the medical community. I need to do a Google search for that study.

Going from 260 to 190 will make anyone look drastically different, but at 6' 190 pounds you are no way thin or "too thin."

I am 6'1" and got down to about 192, and checking some of the charts on weight (no links handy, sorry) I was STILL considered overweight by most charts, with them saying I should be under 189 or maybe even 180 to be in a healthy weight category. I remember one chart saying if I got under 144 pounds then I would be considered too thin, but anything from like 144-180 was a healthy weight for me. Anything higher I was considered "overweight." I would imagine at your height and weight the charts would be about the same. So keep loosing, and with weight loss and and increase in leg strength, wait until you see how much easier hills will be!

Most of those charts are NOT medically based, they are what insurance companies use to determine rates. Weight can be affected by a number of factors, take two men:

This one:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/0/02/Homer_Simpson_2006.png/200px-Homer_Simpson_2006.png

And this one:

http://www.bodybuilders.com/melvin11.jpg

They both weigh about the same (~275), but have a very different level of health.

Now of course if you look more like the first guy then the second, then maybe you still have some work to do, really though, most of us aspire to being somewhere in the middle. To best determine overall health, visit your doctor, get some tests done, if those tests are all in the normal range, then don't worry about it.

Going from 260 to 190 will make anyone look drastically different, but at 6' 190 pounds you are no way thin or "too thin."

I am 6'1" and got down to about 192, and checking some of the charts on weight (no links handy, sorry) I was STILL considered overweight by most charts, with them saying I should be under 189 or maybe even 180 to be in a healthy weight category. I remember one chart saying if I got under 144 pounds then I would be considered too thin, but anything from like 144-180 was a healthy weight for me. Anything higher I was considered "overweight." I would imagine at your height and weight the charts would be about the same. So keep loosing, and with weight loss and and increase in leg strength, wait until you see how much easier hills will be!

The height and weight charts are guidelines, not production standards. I'm 6'1" as well, and the same charts give up to 195 pounds as 'healthy' weight for me. Yet my doctor, a chiropractor, two physical therapists, and several trainers at my gym all suggested 210-225 as ideal for me. I'm broad-shouldered and have a stocky build, which accounts for the difference.

Had the blood tests last week. All numbers were great. But I know I can climb better and ride longer 20lbs lighter.

They say if I reach my goal of 190 I will look sick.

I'm the only overweight in all my family. So my mom keeps telling me to eat less and do some exercise. As soon as I tell her that I'm going to start a diet she start getting worried and ask me to eat more.

Now I'm living far from where she lives, but when we used to live together she instantly started baking bread, cookies and prepare delicious pasta even before I started the diet. I hate that. I would like to understand what are these people (like my mom) thinking, do they think that we can go to the other point of the line and end up bulimic or anorexic?

I had someone ask me the other day if I was training for a marathon of if I was just sick. One of my very best friends continues to tell me I look sick and need to gain some weight. At 6' and 195 I'm hardly svelte. The fact that I've never had anyone who I thought had good body composition say anything like that to me (it's always the folks who I think could stand to lose some weight themselves) tells me there's more going on here than their concern for my health.

The members of your congregation who are trying to plump you up are being very shallow and are no doubt jealous people. You can love them without listening to them. Maybe a good topic for some Sunday morning would be gluttony, self control, jealousy, and brotherly love. "Therefore encourage one another and build each other up, just as in fact you are doing. Now we ask you, brothers, to respect those who work hard among you..." - 1 Thessalonians 5:11

So if you'll accept encouragement from a non-Christian, keep up the great work and keep pushing that pie plate back.

I lost 50 lbs this last year also, 304 to 254. I am 6'4" snd plan to drap at least another 40, maybe 50. Some of my friends say I will look too thin if I get down to 200, but I would feel good.

Look, part of it is a perception issue. If you lose a large amount of weight, you can look a bit gaunt due to uneven fat distribution and slightly looser skin than someone that has been slimmer their whole life will. The skin doesn't shrink, and as you get heavier, you need more skin to cover the surface area. Once you grow the excess, it doesn't go away naturally. That is part of the reason, and it's actually pretty benign, unless you have a huge pannula (Belly Apron or flap of hang), and then you can get rashes and infections.

Maybe I missed it in the replies but what is your body fat percentage? If you have had it measured and it is within acceptable limits mention that to people. I realize that is not a definitive measure for someone's health but it does help in the talks about it.

Do you do any upper body workouts? I have seen a lot of people who lose weight neglect that part of their regiment and they do look sickly because all the loose skin is just hanging there. It is not going to solve it all but it will help some.

I was wondering if you spent a sermon talking about some of your health issues that you and your doctor have discussed before losing the weight may help. Along with that talk about the insurance cost to the people of the church for treating those problems. Open heart surgery is not cheap and transplant surgery is even worse with all the drugs you are on for life.

I read a couple of comments by people who say people within their own families have sabotaged their attempts at weight loss. If they do it through shopping try and and go with them. When they buy that stuff that you do not need put it back on the shelf. The cooking thing is tuff. I struggle with that one. I have a room mate who bakes cookies and I have a tuff time saying no. I do pretty good at limiting how many I have. Maybe taking them on the next trip to the doctor you may help.

Keep up the good work and remember that this forum board will support you in healthy weight loss :)

My primary care Dr is wanting me to help him get active in the Spring :D We go bike and trainer shopping this weekend. ;) He likes my progress :D

Now thats a compliment!

I have dropped 20 lbs in the last few months, mostly due to a good hour length bike commute. If anything I eat more than before. That puts me at 205 and 21% BF. I could be happy to lose another 10, but I would be even more pleased to lose another 2%

Oh, and people, it's lose , not loose. I wouldn't have brought it up but so many of you are doing it, it sets my teeth on edge! :D

P.S. I have also lost all signs of acid reflux, and some early indications of diabetes.

Now, I was using loose in proper context ;)

Look, part of it is a perception issue. If you lose a large amount of weight, you can look a bit gaunt due to uneven fat distribution and slightly looser skin than someone that has been slimmer their whole life will. The skin doesn't shrink, and as you get heavier, you need more skin to cover the surface area. Once you grow the excess, it doesn't go away naturally. That is part of the reason, and it's actually pretty benign, unless you have a huge pannula (Belly Apron or flap of hang), and then you can get rashes and infections.

Good point Tom. Don't forget also that your eyes will sink backwards into your head. This can give a darker look to you. The gym I go to has a newsletter they put out. On the cover is a successful weight loss story. Here is the link: http://anytimefitness.com/experience/newsletter.aspx , look at the May 2007 issue. It is great that the guy lost a ton of weight but he needs a makeover. Maybe a new look will help you out.

I can relate Tom but since you are doing much better than I am I dont really have any advise. My dad is a preacher (still is) and for as long as I can remember we have a diiner every second Sunday. When I was a kid (12 to 17) I could eat like a horse and one little lo lady always brought 2 strawberry pies and one was for me. They seem to take great pride in seeing thier food eaten and I was always happy to oblige. i would eat 2 plate fulls and then the pie. Fast forward 30 or so years (now 45) I went from a muscular 200 to a fat 244. I got a bike in August 2006 but have not lost much weight. i still like to eat...but my HR has droped from 72 bpm to around 52 bpm and I am not as fat in the face. my leags are in much better shape as well. Oh well, good luck with the folks at church. just keep it up. I hope this year I do better.

I'm not at all certain that preaching about gluttony would help any here. tntom wants the congregation to simply support what he's doing, and perhaps tip some thinking towards healthier lifestyles. I'd think the best thing to do would be leading by example, with perhaps a subtle nudge here and there.

Now, I was using loose in proper context ;)

:roflmao:

Yes, yes you were, and used lose correctly too. Sorry, didn't mean to be such a pedant, but after about the third poster doing it, I kind of "loost' it. :D

loose,loose,loose,loose,loose:rolleyes::D:D

Sorry just couldn't help myself.

I'm not at all certain that preaching about gluttony would help any here. tntom wants the congregation to simply support what he's doing, and perhaps tip some thinking towards healthier lifestyles. I'd think the best thing to do would be leading by example, with perhaps a subtle nudge here and there.

Agreed. He should simply be the lite of his church, if not the lite of the world. Sorry, couldn't resist the pun. :=>

When you lose a lot of weight like that people no longer have the "fat" friend in which they can compare themselves. I know that girlfriends don't want you around their boyfriend and guys don't want you around their girls. I say continue to take care of your health and forget the naysayers.

Gas, .69 cents, the price of a can of beans

When you lose a lot of weight like that people no longer have the "fat" friend in which they can compare themselves. I know that girlfriends don't want you around their boyfriend and guys don't want you around their girls. I say continue to take care of your health and forget the naysayers.

Gas, .69 cents, the price of a can of beans

I lost at least one friendship because of my weight loss. I've also seen other friendships lessen and grow as I've become lighter.; It's not the shell that's changed, it's the person inside who is different.