Framebuilders - naked aluminum

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ChiapasFixed
01-16-08, 11:33 AM
is it safe for me to remove the paint off an aluminum frame? will it corrode? how can I protect it?
hotbike
01-16-08, 12:13 PM
Whatever you do, do NOT use aluminum oxide sandpaper.
Oxygen from the oxide doesn't know which aluminum atom is which, and will attack the aluminum frame.
hotbike
01-16-08, 12:18 PM
If it's a bare aluminum look you want , you should coat the frame with Simichrome Polish:
http://www.renningers.com/simichrome.html
http://www.marbeck.com/cleaners_household_simichrome.html
http://www.speedsupplies.com/accessorylistingdetailpurch.asp?item=12362
http://www.kk.org/cooltools/archives/002522.php
hockeyteeth
01-16-08, 09:22 PM
Jasco works very well for stripping paint from Aluminum. I know two people who have done it without issues.
http://paint-and-supplies.hardwarestore.com/50-278-paint-strippers-removers/jasco-spray-paint-remover-639082.aspx
zonatandem
01-16-08, 09:26 PM
Years ago had paint profssionaly removed off a C'dale. You !cannot! sandblast alu; however they can use plastic beads that will do a fine job.
Alu does not rust but it can oxidize. So a clearcoat can be spayed on, if desired.
ChiapasFixed
01-17-08, 01:41 PM
If it's a bare aluminum look you want , you should coat the frame with Simichrome Polish:
http://www.renningers.com/simichrome.html
http://www.marbeck.com/cleaners_household_simichrome.html
http://www.speedsupplies.com/accessorylistingdetailpurch.asp?item=12362
http://www.kk.org/cooltools/archives/002522.php
Whatever you do, do NOT use aluminum oxide sandpaper.
Oxygen from the oxide doesn't know which aluminum atom is which, and will attack the aluminum frame.
simichrome is AU Oxide.... hmmmm
hotbike
01-17-08, 04:08 PM
Whatever you do, do NOT use aluminum oxide sandpaper.
Oxygen from the oxide doesn't know which aluminum atom is which, and will attack the aluminum frame.
simichrome is AU Oxide.... hmmmm
Oh, s_ _ _!
Thanks for bringing up that correction!
I guess you'll have to go with a clearcoat.
Dr.Deltron
01-17-08, 06:39 PM
simichrome is AU Oxide.... hmmmm
Better check the periodic chart again. ;) (#79)
Or maybe that's why it's pricey & hard to find. :p
If you have a link to a source, I'd be mighty obliged. :)
Six jours
01-17-08, 07:55 PM
is it safe for me to remove the paint off an aluminum frame?
Yes. Jasco gel paint stripper is cheapest/simplest.
will it corrode?
Yes. Oxidize, anyway. The surface will get dull, and eventually whitish residues will form. This probably doesn't affect structural integrity, but it isn't that nice to look at.
how can I protect it?
Paint it.
ChiapasFixed
01-18-08, 06:59 PM
Better check the periodic chart again. ;) (#79)
Or maybe that's why it's pricey & hard to find. :p
If you have a link to a source, I'd be mighty obliged. :)
yeah, well you know the U is right next to the L on keyboards for geniuses ;)
Dr.Deltron
01-27-08, 01:24 PM
yeah, well you know the U is right next to the L on keyboards for geniuses ;)
The Midas model?? :D
is it safe for me to remove the paint off an aluminum frame? will it corrode? how can I protect it?
HOW DID I NOT MENTION??....
DO NOT remove paint from a KLEIN aluminum frame!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It was explained to me years ago that KLEIN does some techno technique to their frames that is DAMAGED by removal of the old finish!!!
To repaint a KLEIN, simply clean the frame very well with wax & grease remover. Use a toothbrush & an airhose for all the little nooks.
Scuff the frame with medium ScotchBrite pads, just enough to break the gloss.
Primer & paint from there.
Repainting a KLEIN, or most frames for that matter, will void any remaining warranties.
bikegraphicsguy
02-05-08, 02:51 PM
Clear sheild protective film will protect your frame from oxidizeing and getting scraped up
yellowjeep
02-06-08, 10:29 AM
Dr.D, What is it that Klein did to their frames and for what propose
Six jours
02-06-08, 09:26 PM
IIRC, Klein used a strip of boron tape on the right chainstay. This supposedly increased stiffness. I do not know if they still do this, and I do not know if that's what Dr. D was talking about, but there you go.
chrissmedley
08-01-08, 06:39 PM
how much jasco (in gel form) is required for one frame, approximately? i'm about to go buy some and don't want to do like half of the job and have to run back or have like a ton of extra jasco sitting around forever.
Six jours
08-01-08, 07:15 PM
I've been successful with 1/2 to 2/3 of a can.
<edit> Be aware that this is fairly nasty stuff; a level beyond the usual household chemicals. About a minute after you get this stuff on bare skin it begins to burn, and keeps burning for a while. I'd hate to imagine what it would do to an eye. When the can says wear glasses and heavy gloves, it's not kidding. I've learned my lesson and definitely go all safety-dork when I'm using this stuff.
Have fun!