Where is P&R?

[Helmet Head]

I don't see it anymore. Trying to access it by this URL,

http://www.bikeforums.net/forumdisplay.php?f=250

fails with the following error:


Helmet Head, you do not have permission to access this page. This could be due to one of several reasons:

1. Your user account may not have sufficient privileges to access this page. Are you trying to edit someone else's post, access administrative features or some other privileged system?
2. If you are trying to post, the administrator may have disabled your account, or it may be awaiting activation.

Google, this page is about bicycles, bikes, cycling, road bikes, mountain bikes and other types of bicycles.

[Poppaspoke]

I've been gone a couple of days, and noticed that P&R is not
on my forum list. Is this part of the changeover?

Will I eventually be able to log on?

[Tom Stormcrowe]

Yes, it might take a little bit. Some have access and some don't yet. Brian's working on it.

[crtreedude]

This was posted in P & R under the thread of the new rules that it occur at this time - I would point you to the thread, but...

[Helmet Head]

That thread seemed to be mostly ankle biting, so I did not follow it once I confirmed I was on the list.

[Tom Stormcrowe]

Brian is working on the list now. It'll be back soon :D

[Helmet Head]

It's not back yet...

[froze]

why has my account been frozen? I tried to post a response in religion and politics and was unable to do so. How can this be rectified? Thank you

[East Hill]

Send a PM to Brian or donnamb...read the sticky, too :).

East Hill

[Tom Stormcrowe]

That sticky was up in P&R HOW long? ;)

[East Hill]

That sticky was up in P&R HOW long? ;)

" 01-07-08, 06:47 PM "

Not long enough :) .

East Hill

[Brian]

If there is ever an argument where a member accuses another member of lacking in reading comprehension, I'm checking this post to see what comments have been made.

I'm just sayin'...

Oh, a special thanks to East Hill for helping keep track of that list.

[East Hill]

If there is ever an argument where a member accuses another member of lacking in reading comprehension, I'm checking this post to see what comments have been made.

I'm just sayin'...

Oh, a special thanks to East Hill for helping keep track of that list.

Anytime :) .

Any bets on how long before some of the non-signers change their minds :D ?

East Hill

[Helmet Head]

Uh, I still can't get in...

[Ziemas]

Uh, I still can't get in...

Then you'll just have to wait. Go harass the folks in A&S for a while......

[KrisPistofferson]

lolz

[Brian]

I don't see it anymore. Trying to access it by this URL,

http://www.bikeforums.net/forumdisplay.php?f=250

fails with the following error:



Your use of the words "fail" and "error" are entirely unwarranted.

[Helmet Head]

Your use of the words "fail" and "error" are entirely unwarranted.
So are you intentionally not giving me access despite my signing the agreement? Or is it just not ready yet?

[East Hill]

So are you intentionally not giving me access despite my signing the agreement? Or is it just not ready yet?

Did you log out during this period? Logging back in should make the forum appear for you :) .

East Hill

[Helmet Head]

Did you log out during this period? Logging back in should make the forum appear for you :) .

East Hill
I just logged out and logged back in. No dice. Still can't see the P&R forum, and get the same message when I try to get there directly by the URL in the OP.

Is it too much to ask whether I'm being intentionally blocked or if this is an inadvertent glitch?

[KrisPistofferson]

I'm not seeing it either.

[Brian]

We're working on it. Anyone else get missed?

[East Hill]

Well, either both of you are bad boys, or you were inadvertently missed. I know you were both on the list. My guess is missed inadvertently :) .

Send a PM to Brian, or wait for him to wander through here a bit later.

Edit: Ha! Beat me to it :D .

East Hill

[Ziemas]

We're working on it. Anyone else get missed?

I don't see P&R as well.

[San Rensho]

So are you intentionally not giving me access despite my signing the agreement? Or is it just not ready yet?

Yeah, me too! I can't post to the Pand R. I'M BEING OPPRESSED, I'M BEING OPPRESSED!

I pay good money to be on this forum! Alright, I guess I don't pay anything for the privilege of using BF, do I? Its free, isn't it. Hmm, I guess I don't have much of a complaint, do I?

I know what it is! BF has singled out the all important SAN RENSHO to f@ck with! No, I guess thats not true either, I'm sure the hardworking admins have lots better things to do that mess with me.

OK, I apologize. Please, please get it fixed, I'm Jonesing here, and thanks.

[Helmet Head]

We're working on it.
Thank you.

[wagathon]

This Is Ruinous. :)

[Brian]

This Is Ruinous. :)

Thank you.

[edit] Your attempt to yell has failed.

[Ziemas]

Thanks for providing me with access.

[wagathon]

This is ruinous :)

[BCIpam]

So I was out travelling two days come back and dang no P & R... Brian - please I need my P & R!?!?!?

Tom seriously any idea when everyone will have access?

[Brian]

Geez, how many did I miss?

[Helmet Head]

Geez, how many did I miss?
I don't know, but I just logged out and back in and still don't see it or have access.

[KrisPistofferson]

We should get a blue star to reimburse us for time lost.

[Brian]

We should get a blue star to reimburse us for time lost.

I should bill you for my time wasted. :D

[Helmet Head]

I should bill you for my time wasted. :D
I just logged out and back in and still no P&R forum.

I realize you don't owe us anything, but common courtesy suggests you might give us a clue as to what is going on. In particular, do you understand why we don't have access, or are you still trying to figure that out?

Should we keep logging out and back in to try it again, or wait until you tell us to try it?

Thanks,
HH

[eofelis]

I'd like access to P&R if I need to do some procedure to do so. Thanks.

[Brian]

I just logged out and back in and still no P&R forum.

I realize you don't owe us anything, but common courtesy suggests you might give us a clue as to what is going on. In particular, do you understand why we don't have access, or are you still trying to figure that out?

Should we keep logging out and back in to try it again, or wait until you tell us to try it?

Thanks,
HH

You must have missed that list of 100+ names, in the thread where it was explained when P&R would be closed, and that Donna and I would split the duties of updating the access for each member.

Thank you for your patience.

[Helmet Head]

You must have missed that list of 100+ names, in the thread where it was explained when P&R would be closed, and that Donna and I would split the duties of updating the access for each member.
I did not miss the list; I'm on it. But I did not read every post in that thread, which was a lot of ankle-biting. I did read the OP, and if there was anything in there about this closing or approximately how long the process of updating access would take, I missed it.


Thank you for your patience.
I'm trying to be patient, but it would be a lot easier if we had a clue as to whether it was going to be a few more minutes, hours, days or what?

And are you actually doing the access updates with manual keystrokes? I would think you should be able to upload the file all at once, or bulk edit it to convert it to a series of SQL statements or something.

[KrisPistofferson]

If I was the new owner of Bikeforums, at this point I'd ban HH to illustrate how Libertarianism works.

[Helmet Head]

If I was the new owner of Bikeforums, at this point I'd ban HH to illustrate how Libertarianism works.
They are certainly within their rights to do so.
It's heartening to see that you understand how it works too.

It should be noted the Kucinich sued when he was excluded from the debates, but Ron Paul did not.
Liberty is about respecting the rights of others, even when you disagree with decisions and actions that others take within those rights, even when you are adversely affected or even harmed by those decisions and actions (but your rights are not violated), as much as it is about anything. It's about objectively understanding and respecting what "it's your call" means, and when it applies.

Brian, it's your call as to whether I get back into P&R. I understand and respect that.

Nobody has a right to be in a debate sponsored by a private network. Not Hillary, Obama, McCain, Romney or Giuliani, unless the owner of the network (or his agent) grants that right (which is recoverable at any time). I have no right to post here, except to the extent that the owners of this forum (and their agents) allow me to do so. So Kucinich's rights were not violated when he was not allowed in the Vegas debates. My rights are not violated if I'm not allowed access. That's libertarianism in a nutshell, and it beats all the alternatives.

[KrisPistofferson]

They are certainly within their rights to do so.
It's heartening to see that you understand how it works too.

It should be noted the Kucinich sued when he was excluded from the debates, but Ron Paul did not.
Liberty is about respecting the rights of others, even when you disagree with decisions and actions that others take within those rights, even when you are adversely affected or even harmed by those decisions and actions (but your rights are not violated), as much as it is about anything. It's about objectively understanding and respecting what "it's your call" means, and when it applies.
You've finally convinced me. Paypal me $500 and I will send you a sense of humor.

[crtreedude]

Well played sir - sounds just like a Jewish mother skit.

[Brian]

select * from db_users_that_whine...

We already mentioned that it's a manual process. There is no way to select the users that should have access with an SQL statement.

[wagathon]

Ruinous!

P.S., Do these "hidden" P&R folk actually ride bikes (or, does that cause global warming)?

[chipcom]

If I was the new owner of Bikeforums, at this point I'd ban HH to illustrate how Libertarianism works.

YES! Banning HH AND Donna burning her bra too! I love Women's Libertarianism!

[KrisPistofferson]

YES! Banning HH AND Donna burning her bra too! I love Women's Libertarianism!First time I ever clicked on your sig...That's freakin' cool. Great taste in bikes. (I wear the Fred-Sandals, too.) ;)

[East Hill]

Ruinous!

P.S., Do these "hidden" P&R folk actually ride bikes (or, does that cause global warming)?

You know, you're really missing out on some good threads. We've got FXJohn converted now :) .

Didn't you know we just had a thread about the P & R forum bicycle riding habits ;) ?

East Hill

[wagathon]

Try Sympathy :)

[Tom Stormcrowe]

Wags, if you're too proud to ask for access, tap dancing around in this thread isn't going to help ;)