I'm beginning to see a pattern here. West coast - ******bag, East coast - tool. So is the Mississippi River the dividing line to determine whether one is a ******bag or a tool when abbreviating geographical locations or tossing out nicknames? I'm originally from northeast Ohio, otherwise known as "Steel Valley," so I'm guessing that makes me a tool. Cool!

So if you are going down the river and use one of these city nomenclatures, does that make you a ******tool?

You are quite correct, sir. Only it isn't the word so much as how it's used. Two bubbas calling each other bubba followed by a slap on the back and a hearty smoker's laugh is acceptable. But if you see a bubba and call him bubba with a sneer and with a derogatory twang, you'd better be able to back it up with brawn or a shotgun in your cab window.

What if you call him "Bubba!" with a sneer and with a derogatory twang and his name is really Bubba?

http://www.mindspring.com/~erhoades/yardart/bubba1.jpg

Thanks for the info... will definitely check out the site. Where does the BCI meet on these alternate Sundays?

They always meet on the same location - Deerfield Park in Irvine (directions are on the website) although with Bear training there is some remote starts (towards the end). The website will always have the specific information.

Damn BF, I had a post and it logged me out. :(

Anyway...I get a decent amount of climbing without too much boredom by doing the different options on Newport Coast. Up San Joaquin, up NC from PCH, up Vista Ridge, up Ridge Park, up NC from Bonita side, up Spyglass. If I can't get away to Baldy (or don't want to drive) it's a good alternative close to home.

What if you call him "Bubba!" with a sneer and with a derogatory twang and his name is really Bubba?


There really is NO ONE named bubba...that's a nickname. It like saying bro in the redneck world. :)

The OC was a terrible show. Buffy on the other hand, ruled.

As for climbing, how far are you from the south side of PV? There's good climbing there also, especially on the south side.

The OC was a terrible show. Buffy on the other hand, ruled.

As for climbing, how far are you from the south side of PV? There's good climbing there also, especially on the south side.

I never saw the OC (just all the film trucks in the area) but the early episodes of the Buffy show were pretty cool. The Buffy house is on Cota, I pass it sometimes when I ride to Torrance Bakery.

+1 on PV. Riding from Seal Beach can be rough, but it wouldn't be a long drive.

You'll have to ask someone who lives out there - it's far enough away that I don't care, although I suspect calling New York City "the Big Apple" anywhere within 300 miles of it will identify one as a tool.

I guess I overestimated your level of expertise on the matter.

So there are vampires in Torrance?:eek:

So there are vampires in Torrance?:eek:

Yes. But they don't bite too many people. They're too busy riding their bikes at 3am, trying to get in their miles before dawn.

So there are vampires in Torrance?:eek:

No...ignore Happy. She's just trying to scare you. Buffy took care of those vampires years ago.

Remarkable. If I have this right, you're saying his garage door opener happened to open the garage door to the same house where his house key happened to also work? Or, he went to the house which happened to have the garage door and the door to the house both left open or unlocked (at 3:00am)?

Or is the joke that even the locks were the same? And the location of the couch? I never considered that possibility, but I probably should have.

Newer housing communities tend to be more homogeneous than old ones, I completely agree. OC has many newer communities. But I don't think they are any more homogeneous than other new housing developments in other cities. I've been to lots of newer housing developments in LA and SD (and Santa Barbara and elsewhere) where the freakin' houses are basically a clone (or mirror image) of one another (and usually remark about how it reminds me of OC). Go to older parts of OC and you get more heterogeneity, just like the older parts of other cities. New, bland, soul-less housing developments are not unique to OC, nor were they first seen here.


+1

Coincidentally, there is a true story from a family friend (a co-worker of a parent) who lives in Irvine. One night, he worked the late shift and overtime, got home really, really late. He drove up to his driveway at around 3:00 am. Opened the garage door. Pulled in, stepped out of the car, opened the door to the house and closed the garage door behind him. Put his stuff from work down on the couch, walked up stairs, entered the bathroom and turned on the lights. He opened the faucet - and immediately noticed that things next to the faucet were different. In fact, everything was different. HE WAS IN SOMEONE ELSE'S HOUSE. He turned 1 block later than his street.

Remarkable. If I have this right, you're saying his garage door opener happened to open the garage door to the same house where his house key happened to also work? Or, he went to the house which happened to have the garage door and the door to the house both left open or unlocked (at 3:00am)?

Or is the joke that even the locks were the same? And the location of the couch? I never considered that possibility, but I probably should have.

Newer housing communities tend to be more homogeneous than old ones, I completely agree. OC has many newer communities. But I don't think they are any more homogeneous than other new housing developments in other cities. I've been to lots of newer housing developments in LA and SD (and Santa Barbara and elsewhere) where the freakin' houses are basically a clone (or mirror image) of one another (and usually remark about how it reminds me of OC). Go to older parts of OC and you get more heterogeneity, just like the older parts of other cities. New, bland, soul-less housing developments are not unique to OC, nor were they first seen here.

Matt, you can't pick apart urban legends too much.

Matt, you can't pick apart urban legends too much.

Yeah, I thought he was gonna say the guy also put the dog in the microwave. :p

This morning I mistook my kitchen for my bathroom and pissed in the dishwasher.

Matt, you can't pick apart urban legends too much.

No, Snopes.com does that for you. Here's an OC legend that's never been demythed: http://www.snopes.com/crime/cops/burger.asp

This morning I mistook my kitchen for my bathroom and pissed in the dishwasher.

You are funny today James, I missed you.

That was my dishwasher!

This morning I mistook my kitchen for my bathroom and pissed in the dishwasher.

Are you sure it was your kitchen?

EDIT: Ha! Matt beat me to it.

No, Snopes.com does that for you. Here's an OC legend that's never been demythed: http://www.snopes.com/crime/cops/burger.asp

Snopes rules!

This morning I mistook my kitchen for my bathroom and pissed in the dishwasher.

Just push full cycle and it will flush it out.

If you're a beginner rider and just been going on PCH, then you may want to take it easy at first. You already know that PCH gets busy with traffic in the middle Saturday mornings, even on Sunday.

I like to go on the rolling hills on PCH at Newport Beach around Corona del Mar to Laguna Beach. Best to do this early morning because of the traffic. If you start at Seal Beach around 7 am. You'll be back before it gets crowded. Also you can do this solo. Some like to ride solo before riding with a group. Its a confidence builder thing.

As an alternative when you ride down PCH, turn left on Jamboree and there are some rolling hills there too. Go on Jamboree till Fletcher Jones Mercedes and turn around. These two will give you a start so that you will get accustomed to gear changes. If you do this a few times, then Newport Coast or San Joaquin Hill Road will be easier, but not right now.

A shorter but steeper climb is going up Superior Avenue towards Hoag Hospital. This is a busy intersection and I have seen more than a few auto accidents there with bikes. Go up Superior passing Hospital Road to Placentia. Turn right till you reach the hospital and go left down to Newport Blvd and right back on PCH. If you do that loop a few times, you'll have a good workout without having to go too far from home.

Another thing about beginner riders, the pedal stroke is very important, even on hills. Not only will you gear down on hills but also you will want to experiment with the pull stroke. You may try this on PCH in Seal Beach, at Seal Beach Blvd. When your quads seem to be taking all the pressure, try doing the opposite: apply more pull than the push.

Remarkable. If I have this right, you're saying his garage door opener happened to open the garage door to the same house where his house key happened to also work? Or, he went to the house which happened to have the garage door and the door to the house both left open or unlocked (at 3:00am)?

Or is the joke that even the locks were the same? And the location of the couch? I never considered that possibility, but I probably should have.

Realistically, it could occur... if there is a door into the house from the garage, and that is left unlocked and the remote control for the garage is keyed for the same frequency. I believe that there are only a handful (20-30) of available frequencies for garage door openers and they are all limited in range (200' or so). If the house is the same style (very easy to occur in some of the newer neighborhoods) then the built in 'amenities' like the media center, fireplace, breakfast bar generally dictate the layout of the furniture...

of course, this could just be another urban legend, but I am at work so I cannot read that website to check it out...

Remarkable. If I have this right, you're saying his garage door opener happened to open the garage door to the same house where his house key happened to also work? Or, he went to the house which happened to have the garage door and the door to the house both left open or unlocked (at 3:00am)?

Or is the joke that even the locks were the same? And the location of the couch? I never considered that possibility, but I probably should have.New, bland, soul-less housing developments are not unique to OC, nor were they first seen here.

He didn't use any keys on the doors in the process - basically entered the house using his garage door opener. The door from the garage to the home was unlocked, just like his own home. The homes both have the same layout. Both living rooms were layed out the same way by their owners, even. The couch was different, but he didn't notice the difference until he came back down to grab his stuff and quietly leave the house (the mistaken house, not his house).

And, actually, the 'tract homes' idea started in the Los Angeles area in the San Fernando Valley, post WWII. Tract homes themselves were a concept developed long ago - most likely dating back as far as the Roman Empire (possibly). The idea was developed a bit with the Third Reich/Nazi Germany in the early 1930s. Then it really worked in the SFV.

You'd learn a lot on RIDE-Arc rides ;)

New, bland, soul-less housing developments are not unique to OC, nor were they first seen here.

Have some civic pride my man! The OC still has the bestest, blandest, soul-lessest housing developments in the world! Eee-haaw!

Realistically, it could occur... if there is a door into the house from the garage, and that is left unlocked and the remote control for the garage is keyed for the same frequency. I believe that there are only a handful (20-30) of available frequencies for garage door openers and they are all limited in range (200' or so). If the house is the same style (very easy to occur in some of the newer neighborhoods) then the built in 'amenities' like the media center, fireplace, breakfast bar generally dictate the layout of the furniture...

of course, this could just be another urban legend, but I am at work so I cannot read that website to check it out...

Not an urban legend - there are only a few mfgs of garage doors out there, and if you've ever had to have a garage door opener replaced with a 'universal'-type opener, you'd find that the coding isn't too complex. Factor in a large development that is running on mass-purchases of building materials and a relatively cutting-corners type budget, and the odds of having similar garage door settings gets a bit higher. Probably not like the legend of 1-out-of-6, but it could reasonably be 1-out-of-100... and then, ta-da! Open-sesame.

Have some civic pride my man! The OC still has the bestest, blandest, soul-lessest housing developments in the world! Eee-haaw!

Have you been to the Inland Empire? What about Rancho Cucamonga?

The worst I've - yet - seen is actually just south of Victorville in what was a small town called Hesperia. Not only is the development terrible, but the design is the worst I've seen. The people running the urban planning department out there should have their education questioned, and the construction quality is just below the ram-shackle'd developments of outer Beijing pre-Olympic push.

Wow, what a funny thread to read! Very entertaining, and every so often someone will actual talk about "Climbing in Orange County!"

I mean, sure, it gets totally derailed, but then, somehow, the chain jumps back on the right chainring, and there's a post about climbing!

I need to go peek at some other regional threads (i.e. non-SoCal) and see if they have this derailluer issue. Or, really, not an "Issue" but, ah . . . situation.

Rick / OCRR

Have some civic pride my man! The OC still has the bestest, blandest, soul-lessest housing developments in the world! Eee-haaw!

Maybe.... :p

Realistically, it could occur... if there is a door into the house from the garage, and that is left unlocked and the remote control for the garage is keyed for the same frequency. I believe that there are only a handful (20-30) of available frequencies for garage door openers and they are all limited in range (200' or so). If the house is the same style (very easy to occur in some of the newer neighborhoods) then the built in 'amenities' like the media center, fireplace, breakfast bar generally dictate the layout of the furniture...

of course, this could just be another urban legend, but I am at work so I cannot read that website to check it out...

I guess. Just like my professional figure skating career "could occur." :p

It's not such a stretch to think the garage door opener worked on the wrong door, and the door to the house was left unlocked. But come on, every house has it's own "homey" smell (good or bad), door sounds, etc.

I personally find it very unlikely that he'd make it all the way upstairs before noticing. He didn't figure it out until he noticed the different stuff in the bathroom?

Not an urban legend - there are only a few mfgs of garage doors out there, and if you've ever had to have a garage door opener replaced with a 'universal'-type opener, you'd find that the coding isn't too complex. Factor in a large development that is running on mass-purchases of building materials and a relatively cutting-corners type budget, and the odds of having similar garage door settings gets a bit higher. Probably not like the legend of 1-out-of-6, but it could reasonably be 1-out-of-100... and then, ta-da! Open-sesame.

It's not the garage door opening that makes this story untenable (to me) -- it's his walking in, putting down his stuff, walking up the stairs and making it all the way upstairs once the door opened.

But, fine. If you believe it, I will too.

3 am - after driving from Glendale (he works in Glendale) after a full day of work + overtime. The guy was *really* tired. Everything up until turning on the bathroom lights did not give any glaring indication to a very tired person that he was in a different house. He didn't turn on the lights up until the bathroom because there was no need to: he was able to navigate around the house, dark as it was, without anything tripping him or in his way.

edit: I should note that what this guy does for a living (along with one of my parents - afterall he is a co-worker of a parent), is look into a microscope for most of the day. He works in a laboratory for a very large medical provider.

You are funny today James, I missed you.
It's directly correlated to my boredom. :D

need to go peek at some other regional threads (i.e. non-SoCal) and see if they have this derailluer issue.

Never happens. :rolleyes:

Never happens.

yeah cause no one posts there!!! They have no action!;)

Come on, Herb. The Africa Thread (http://www.bikeforums.net/forumdisplay.php?f=246) is where izzat!

yeah cause no one posts there!!! They have no action!;)

Well, I don't mind really, since it is so entertaining. I mean, if it were just boring drivel, that would be another thing, but here I get to read about folks entering other houses without knowing it, and what a douchbag and tool are . . . not to mention a "Bubba," and even a bit about where to climb in Orange County (but not to call it "The OC"!).

You just never know.

Rick / OCRR

+1 Southern California ROCKS.


(I still love the North though, especially their women.)

Come on, Herb. The Africa Thread (http://www.bikeforums.net/forumdisplay.php?f=246) is where izzat!

Thanks Joy, I checked it out!
JimmyNH is on there! I forgot that he used to live in South Africa :).
From Bulgaria to South Africa to Southern CA!
Have to see if there's a Bulgarian thread . . .

Rick / OCRR

Stare into the light of a microscope for more than 10 hours and then make your way back home exhausted and mentally fried, don't bother to turn on any lights... yeah, it'll happen.

back on track... for however briefly...

Laguna Beach, Park Avenue to Top of the World...

3 am - after driving from Glendale (he works in Glendale)

Oh, now I do believe what you report is true. I, too, work in Glendale, and Lord knows that I could mistake someone else's underwear as my own after getting out of that dreadful city.

Stare into the light of a microscope for more than 10 hours and then make your way back home exhausted and mentally fried, don't bother to turn on any lights... yeah, it'll happen.

Yeah, I'm sure it happens all the time.

BTW, if this is true, it's nice to know I (and you) may be sharing a lane on the freeway with this guy. He should call a cab if he's that mentally and physically incapacitated by his work.

- but as all of those friends are desperately trying to get out of Orange County with each passing day.

Just my opinion.

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Yeah, when I think about all I gave up when I left LA - the graffitti, getting my car broken into and stuff ripped off, getting hit up for spare change all the time.... sometimes I really miss it. :rolleyes:

back on track... for however briefly...

Laguna Beach, Park Avenue to Top of the World...


screw that hill.

getting hit up for spare change all the time....

Wow. So the OC has NO homeless people or are they just clubbed like seals whenever they dare ask for spare change? :rolleyes:

That place really is starting to look creepy scary. Homes all look alike, people "accidentally" swap spouses (and sometimes children), and they mysteriously rid their streets of anyone down and out.

And, actually, the 'tract homes' idea started in the Los Angeles area in the San Fernando Valley, post WWII. Tract homes themselves were a concept developed long ago - most likely dating back as far as the Roman Empire (possibly). The idea was developed a bit with the Third Reich/Nazi Germany in the early 1930s. Then it really worked in the SFV.

You'd learn a lot on RIDE-Arc rides ;)

Not Levittown, NY?

Not Levittown, NY?

I wrote "in the Los Angeles area" - meaning, in the Los Angeles area, it started in the San Fernando Valley. Levittown preceded the SFV (only by a few years or so).

The Roman Empire preceded Levittown - so what's your point? :D

Anyway, time for a ride -

I wrote "in the Los Angeles area" - meaning, in the Los Angeles area, it started in the San Fernando Valley.
Levittown preceded the SFV. As did the Roman Empire.

Got it. You meant (but didn't say), "in the LA area, here's where it started." Not, "it started in the LA area, more specifically, in this part of the LA area."

Have a good ride.

Derailment complete. My work is done.