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nesdog
 
I've been in the market for a new helmet lately, to replace my zillion year old Trek. It's been a bit of a battle trying to figure out what to buy.

I found a website on the road forum with great information that I've used as a guideline: http://www.bhsi.org/helmet08.htm. This was set up and is championed by a guy who is very involved in helmet safety and standards.

I've tried on various models, and tried to stick with their recommendations for a more rounded, less snaggled lid.

Last night, I tried on a Bell Solar at the LBS and liked it, however I was somewhat put off by the fact that it is less expensive and lighter weight...would it work? Or do I go with the more pricey Ghisallo?

I've sent a couple of e-mails to Randy (from the website) and received very fast responses. I'd like to share these with you for your own info.

The first time I asked him about the Ghisallo...his answer:

"A modest snag point is better than a pronounced snag point. It's in the range where it's probably a reasonable choice.

Life is full of compromises. You may not find the ideal round, smooth helmet with a style you would like. I hope we don't oversell that point--a lot of riders are getting very good service in crashes from the pointy, elongated helmets. Most of the time the snag points probably don't snag on anything. A lot of riders don't want the safest helmet on the road if it doesn't fit their style. You have to decide where the compromise point lies. I do wear a round, smooth helmet, but then I don't worry much about fashion."

Last night, I asked about whether a "cheap, entry level helmet" is any good compared to a top level one. His reply:

"The biggest positive for the high end helmets is that they have more vents and sometimes fit better. You can't open up huge vents without using some expensive production methods.

Low and high end helmets are designed to the same CPSC standard.

Low end helmets with a little less vent area are a better bet if you crash, since they have more foam in them, and it tends to be less dense than the high end models. You would notice that in an impact that was less than catastrophic, where the less dense foam would give you a softer landing than the hard foam used between the vents of high end helmets. It might prevent concussions better than the high end helmet. We always advise consumers to look at the cheaper helmets and that price and protection are not related.

Consumer Reports found that Giro's cheap models did better than the high end ones when they tested back in 2002.
http://www.helmets.org/cu_2002.htm"


Well, found that Performance has a clearance on the Solar at $20, which with Team Perf. membership is even better. I want to try on the Ghisallo first but may just lean towards the Solar!

Sheldon


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urbanknight
 
Sounds like you've got a good plan. The less expensive helmets are in fact just as safe as the pricey ones. Your head just won't be as cool while riding. If you haven't had a problem with your Trek, I doubt any current model would be any worse.

I warn you, though, that once you sip the Kool Aid of well vented helmets, going back to a cheap helmet is annoying as you will THEN notice the sweat and itchy-ness not previously a problem.


nesdog
 
The Trek I'm using now has 17 or 18 vents and is almost 10 years old. so anything I get now has to be better than that! And assuming I go with the Solar, at under $20 I can afford to use it for a few months and swap out if I want to.

Sheldon


urbanknight
 
Very true. Just make sure it fits. I haven't had much luck with Bell and Giro lately. The straps like to turn sideways on me, so I ended up with a Specialized.


VanceMac
 
I found a website on the road forum with great information that I've used as a guideline: http://www.bhsi.org/helmet08.htm. This was set up and is championed by a guy who is very involved in helmet safety and standards.

Wow, that guy is passionate about helmets! Someone just has to buy this Finnish helmet:

http://www.bhsi.org/images/yad.jpg


alicestrong
 
I'm tempted to buy one of these (http://www.nutcasehelmets.com/) but I like vents a lot, too...


alicestrong
 
OH yeah...has anyone else noticed the trend towards building lights into the helmets themselves?


urbanknight
 
Wow, that guy is passionate about helmets! Someone just has to buy this Finnish helmet:

http://www.bhsi.org/images/yad.jpg
I see a major snag point there.


nekohime
 
Gah, I have to buy a new helmet too--I dropped mine in a puddle of muck last night, ruining both it and my helmet light. I think I'm gonna get the same model if it's still available--it's one of those low-end Giros. Can't remember the model though...


roadfix
 
When it comes to helmets I buy one that fits well, is under $100, well vented, and neutral in color.


merider1
 
I'm going to buy the exact same helmet I had before. It did the job better than I could have imagined and to my relief. Plus, I liked the color.


herbm
 
I'm going to buy the exact same helmet I had before. It did the job better than I could have imagined and to my relief. Plus, I liked the color.

Well it matched Patsy!!


nesdog
 
Well, I went with the Solar. LBS has them for $35. Performance closeout: $20 less 10% plus shipping then I used points so out of pocket this time was about $11.

Sheldon


Sci-Fi
 
I use a low end helmet in the winter. Vents aren't a big deal when you want more warmth. It's a matter of finding one that fits good. Many of the entry level helmets come with a rear blinkie built into the adjustment knob, so that's another plus. But I'm a commuter, so what works for me may not work for others.


alicestrong
 
Well, I went with the Solar. LBS has them for $35. Performance closeout: $20 less 10% plus shipping then I used points so out of pocket this time was about $11.

Sheldon




Can't argue with that price! I love bargains! Something I noticed about close out helmets...the date inside might be a year gone by already.


efficiency
 
When it comes to helmets I buy one that fits well, is under $100, well vented, and neutral in color.

Neutral color? Why not match it to your bike color for extra posing power?


urbanknight
 
Can't argue with that price! I love bargains! Something I noticed about close out helmets...the date inside might be a year gone by already.
True, but they haven't seen the light of day so it shouldn't be an issue.

Neutral color? Why not match it to your bike color for extra posing power?
For most people on this forum, that would create a dilemma of which bike to match it to. I have a ti bike so anything matches, but I change bar tape color like it's going out of style.


nesdog
 
Can't argue with that price! I love bargains! Something I noticed about close out helmets...the date inside might be a year gone by already.

I gave this point a lot of thought. Interestingly enough, when I looked at one of these at the LBS, it was dated Jan 07. So I got to thinking that whatever I got from Perf. might be older and would it be breaking down, etc. etc. etc. Got all concerned about it. Then I read that the Solar was a new product in 06 so at worst, it won't be older than that. PBK has lots of sale prices on items marked as "05" (or whatever). But it definately gave me pause.

The LBS price was $35; PBK $20 less 10% plus shipping but I had points. So just $11 on my card. Done!

Sheldon


Scootcore
 
you can often get brand new rudy project helmets on ebay for under 30 bucks...just sayin'


oh, and they rock


merider1
 
you can often get brand new rudy project helmets on ebay for under 30 bucks...just sayin'


oh, and they rock

Are they safe? The Giro I had (child's helmet, by the way) was, obviously, worth every penny I paid for it. It was $160 on sale for $80 when I bought it. Somehow, under $50 for a helmet, and I get nervous.


nesdog
 
Are they safe? The Giro I had (child's helmet, by the way) was, obviously, worth every penny I paid for it. It was $160 on sale for $80 when I bought it. Somehow, under $50 for a helmet, and I get nervous.

This was one of my concerns, addressed by my e-mails above to Randy. His answers are earlier in the thread. He has been doing tons of research and is pretty much a very well known guy around the helmet biz so I trust his judgement.

Sheldon


Grumpy Pig
 
you can often get brand new rudy project helmets on ebay for under 30 bucks...just sayin'


oh, and they rockI placed a bid on one on ebay a few minutes ago.


Sci-Fi
 
Are they safe? The Giro I had (child's helmet, by the way) was, obviously, worth every penny I paid for it. It was $160 on sale for $80 when I bought it. Somehow, under $50 for a helmet, and I get nervous.

The (proper) fit and strapping on of the helmet is more important than the cost of the helmet. Some may not like CU and their testing and rating methods, but there were more than a few under $50 helmets that had better shock/impact absorption than more expensive helmets according to CU's test data. But most at this forum prefer to wear a lighter helmet that's more aesthetically pleasing and has better ventilation or air flow through the helmet or more "aero". The bottom line is that any helmet is better than no helmet in the event of a crash. Just about all bicycle helmets sold in the USA has to pass the CPSC standard. Helmet recalls affect the more expensive helmets just as much as the mass marketed ones:
http://www.helmets.org/recalls.htm


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