Clydesdales/Athenas (200+ lb / 91+ kg) - DEAR GOD, I hurt!

First session of Gym work today, and I'm already sore!

I'm taking a class called Health, Fitness and Nutrition, and made the mistake of telling my prof my plans for the summer. :eek:

He's a PhD in Heath Sciences and Exercise mechanics, and has taken on the task of "Personal Trainer"! I spent three hours, in all exercises, wearing A hr MONITOR AND CYCLING THE hr BETWEEN 70 AND 90%!

Did 150 crunches, and old fashioned pushups (I only made 25 of them.....shoulder pain cut that short).

Did the Dip Machine, counterbalanced dips and pullups too.

I used muscles I forgot I had.......I'm terrified of how I'll feel in the AM!

All in all his assessment was that i wasn't in bad shape given my start point, but there was distinct room for improvement.........

My body says he's trying to kill me though :eek:

better suck down a bottle of aspirin.

Did you sign-up for boot camp?

NBo, I remember Boot from the Army and my DI was easier on me.....and I was 17 then! Now I'm 48 :eek:

Did you sign-up for boot camp?

Good for you Tom!

I think you'll find that your body will adjust fairly quickly. One of the big keys is to get some kind of easily digestible protein within 30 minutes of your workout. If you don't get it, that muscle soreness really becomes a problem, especially in the first couple of weeks.

There is a reason that hydracodone is one of the most addicting and abused perscription drugs around. If you have any you may want them in the morning.;)

These are the times you start thinking,, "Hum, being a couple of hundred pounds overweight wasn't so bad. At least I never would have tried this crap."

Keep up the good work!!!!

I don't envy you, but at the same time you amaze me.
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Agreed, and I used a 4:1 Carb/Prot mix for recovery, and followed up with some home made beef and noodles. I actually don't hurt too bad this morning, either, surprisingly!:D

Yeah, I 'm a bit sore, but less than it was last night, after the session. :D

Good for you Tom!

I think you'll find that your body will adjust fairly quickly. One of the big keys is to get some kind of easily digestible protein within 30 minutes of your workout. If you don't get it, that muscle soreness really becomes a problem, especially in the first couple of weeks.

Good Job!!!!!

Doing something other than bicycling is good for your body. Nice to hear others are trying something new.

Which protein product are you using for recovery out of curiosity? I'm currently experimenting with mine for a little bit trying to find one that works the best for me. Using Endurox at the moment and I'm rather fond of it, drinkable and seems to work pretty well, the morning last week when I forgot to take some to the gym with me and went straight to class was right unpleasant, I had appropriate food with me but the uptake speed just doesn't seem to be as good.

Nice to hear that you don't want to die this morning though.

Right there with ya Tom. I started a crazy gym program in November and the "warm-up" completely kicked my butt, I was sore for 3 or 4 days. It gets easier.

Good luck!

What did the Drunk Russian say? "That witch does not kill us makes us stronger"

What did the Drunk German say? "Pain is weakness leaving the body"

The Sober American said "Pain is your bodies way of telling you to STOP THIS CRUD!"

JMHO

Billy

Accelerade....it's not really a recovery product, per se, but it's component compounds make it good as either in in effort support drink OR a recovery drink, and it doesn't upset my stomach. :D

Which protein product are you using for recovery out of curiosity? I'm currently experimenting with mine for a little bit trying to find one that works the best for me. Using Endurox at the moment and I'm rather fond of it, drinkable and seems to work pretty well, the morning last week when I forgot to take some to the gym with me and went straight to class was right unpleasant, I had appropriate food with me but the uptake speed just doesn't seem to be as good.

Nice to hear that you don't want to die this morning though.

What did the Drunk Russian say? "That witch does not kill us makes us stronger"

What did the Drunk German say? "Pain is weakness leaving the body"

The Sober American said "Pain is your bodies way of telling you to STOP THIS CRUD!"

JMHO

Billy

Actually, both are German......

The first is a paraphrase of Nietzsche. Read my sig ;)

OOPS!

My bust.... I have been miss quoting that for YEARS

I'm right there with you. I'd been out of the gym for a month due to a shoulder injury. Last week the PT told me it was OK to get back in and start up again, but with a modified program. No chest stuff and lighten my weights, but to sets of 30 instead of my normal sets of 20. Oh, and add the exercises we'd been working on during the PT sessions as well.

Last Friday was my first day at this and I'm sure glad it was a Friday. My body didn't forgive me until Monday, and even then it was pretty grudging about it. I think only the fact that I went back in and did another full workout Monday got me going again.

Oh, and Spock said "Pain is a thing of the mind, and the mind can be controlled."

I can sympathize with you. I got a new bike and went in for the preliminary fitting the other day, had to do some spinning on the trainer to get some of the adjustments right. Nothing hard, maybe 30 minutes, but boy is my butt sore!! I have been running since late Oct with no bike work, and my butt parts are out of condition!

Holy Cow....I'm starting to have sympathy pains just reading all that. :eek:

First session of Gym work today, and I'm already sore!

I'm taking a class called Health, Fitness and Nutrition, and made the mistake of telling my prof my plans for the summer. :eek:

He's a PhD in Heath Sciences and Exercise mechanics, and has taken on the task of "Personal Trainer"! I spent three hours, in all exercises, wearing A hr MONITOR AND CYCLING THE hr BETWEEN 70 AND 90%!

Did 150 crunches, and old fashioned pushups (I only made 25 of them.....shoulder pain cut that short).

Did the Dip Machine, counterbalanced dips and pullups too.

I used muscles I forgot I had.......I'm terrified of how I'll feel in the AM!

All in all his assessment was that i wasn't in bad shape given my start point, but there was distinct room for improvement.........

My body says he's trying to kill me though :eek:

You trainer must be friends withe the trainers on Biggest Looser, wow they work them hard. Makes me feel like a lazy sissy because I am only working out 30 minutes per day twice a day.

We just cleared out a room that used to be be watching TV and turned it into my daughter's play room. We added lamitate floor so it can now also double nicely as a workout room. This weekend we are going to be adding family workout time:). I desperately need to work my core and my daughter who doe take Karate twice a week, could use this as a good example that just because we are adults doesn't mean we don't all have to workout.

Good luck with your new health endeavour,
André

Accelerade....it's not really a recovery product, per se, but it's component compounds make it good as either in in effort support drink OR a recovery drink, and it doesn't upset my stomach. :D

Accelerade is great stuff. I use the orange creamsicle flavour with caffeine for my distance rides. One bottle of that, alternate sips from the bottle of plain water, and I use the Accel Gels. That accounts for most of my 250-300cal/hr on distance rides.

Make us proud, Tom. Does the class last all semester?

Accelerade is great stuff. I use the orange creamsicle flavour with caffeine for my distance rides. One bottle of that, alternate sips from the bottle of plain water, and I use the Accel Gels. That accounts for most of my 250-300cal/hr on distance rides.

I like accelerade I used to use it in high school when it was a fairly new product in the late 90's. Although I think I'm going to play with Hammer perpetuum on long really hot rides this summer, on the really hot rides I had some stomach issues the accelerade. I have a friend who has had similar experience and doesn't have that problem with the hammer stuff.

Way to go Tom - I am back in the saddle again. Due to not being able for a while to get brakes for my bike (it isn't all mangos and cream here) and then some other issues, I haven't done as much riding as I was for a while - so I gained back a few pounds. In fact, just barely, I qualify again as a clyde (202 this morning, up from 190)

Enough of that, time to get riding which I have been this week. Nothing like what you are doing, but it feels good to get going again and the weight will soon drop.

The decision was either crank up the riding or slow down the eating - ride on I say!

Excellent!

Hurts so good!

Ouch, Tom. Remember to recover for a few days after this innital...blood-letting. Your prof sounds pretty demanding! You will blow through the innitial pain in a couple of weeks, though. After that, you will improve quickly. But you know all of that.

Keep up the great work!

First session of Gym work today, and I'm already sore!

I'm taking a class called Health, Fitness and Nutrition, and made the mistake of telling my prof my plans for the summer. :eek:

He's a PhD in Heath Sciences and Exercise mechanics, and has taken on the task of "Personal Trainer"! I spent three hours, in all exercises, wearing A hr MONITOR AND CYCLING THE hr BETWEEN 70 AND 90%!

Did 150 crunches, and old fashioned pushups (I only made 25 of them.....shoulder pain cut that short).

Did the Dip Machine, counterbalanced dips and pullups too.

I used muscles I forgot I had.......I'm terrified of how I'll feel in the AM!

All in all his assessment was that i wasn't in bad shape given my start point, but there was distinct room for improvement.........

My body says he's trying to kill me though :eek:



I always enjoy the old Russian saying (loosely translated) “The best is the enemy of good enough”…

I can feel for what you are going through Tom, but as you get used to working out you, will find yourself craving it.

I used to body build about twenty years ago… I bet if I tried now to do one rep, each of the things that I commonly did thirty reps each of… it would probably kill me. I had to quit because of a back injury, and for almost a month I swear I had withdrawal symptoms. There are a few time I think about getting back into it, but I just want to get rid of extra weight (due to my replacement hip)… and a hundred pounds of extra muscle, is still an extra hundred pounds.

Well, good luck and good health to you…

First session of Gym work today, and I'm already sore!

I'm taking a class called Health, Fitness and Nutrition, and made the mistake of telling my prof my plans for the summer. :eek:

He's a PhD in Heath Sciences and Exercise mechanics, and has taken on the task of "Personal Trainer"! I spent three hours, in all exercises, wearing A hr MONITOR AND CYCLING THE hr BETWEEN 70 AND 90%!

Did 150 crunches, and old fashioned pushups (I only made 25 of them.....shoulder pain cut that short).

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I wonder about people who make you do 150 sit ups. There is no benefit to doing that many. Odds on end you will destroy your back. Your abs get used to crunches really fast. To challenge them you need to add weight. I do my crunches on my knees. I have a rope hooked to some wights and bend forward. Right now I set the machine at 110 lbs. I do four sets of 8-10 reps. Reverse sit ups on an incline bench and reverse hyper-extensions are great for your back.

Push ups can do serious damage also. Better off just doing fly's and curls.

The Army is finally getting around to revising some of it basic training practices. The old method of sit ups and push ups just does not work for the training they need.

It is good to hear you are working with a trainer. I think using one 2 to 3 times a year is a great way to keep your workout strong. When looking for a trainer make sure they just have not gone out and gotten a 6 week certificate. There are a lot of those out there.

The intent was to push to failure for assessment. I didn't hit failure on the crunches, I did hit failure on the pushups. Not from strength issues, but from a major twinge in the shoulder, and was instructed to stop at first pain on the pushups. I didn't do full situps as there is no abdominal benefit to a full situp as compared to a crunch.

As soon as the small of your back lifts off the floor, the Hip Flexors and quads kick in and I'm already overdeveloped somewhat on the quads (even though you can't really see it due to the loose skin ;). He needed the data to help me plan a routine that will tone my muscles but not add muscle mass to the upper body any more than necessary.I wonder about people who make you do 150 sit ups. There is no benefit to doing that many. Odds on end you will destroy your back. Your abs get used to crunches really fast. To challenge them you need to add weight. I do my crunches on my knees. I have a rope hooked to some wights and bend forward. Right now I set the machine at 110 lbs. I do four sets of 8-10 reps. Reverse sit ups on an incline bench and reverse hyper-extensions are great for your back.

Push ups can do serious damage also. Better off just doing fly's and curls.

The Army is finally getting around to revising some of it basic training practices. The old method of sit ups and push ups just does not work for the training they need.

It is good to hear you are working with a trainer. I think using one 2 to 3 times a year is a great way to keep your workout strong. When looking for a trainer make sure they just have not gone out and gotten a 6 week certificate. There are a lot of those out there.

Agreed, and I used a 4:1 Carb/Prot mix for recovery, and followed up with some home made beef and noodles. I actually don't hurt too bad this morning, either, surprisingly!:D

Yeah, I 'm a bit sore, but less than it was last night, after the session. :D

Yeah, it's pretty amazing what a little protein will do for you.

I use the American Whey protein at GNC. It tastes better than most and is easier to digest than the low-end stuff. There was a place that will customize your protein powder to your exact specifications but I can't remember the website.

I always love being sore. Especially the next morning, because I know I've done something good for myself. Honestly, I'm at the point I enjoy it.

Sounds like what I need. I've plateaud at 196 for a month or so now. I know I'm getting stronger due to the freeweights but I really need a push to get more efficient in my time at the gym.

How's the workout going Tom?

Going well :D I don't hurt as bad after and I'm getting stronger :D