Mountain Biking - What Happened To Pete? (Sorry If It's a Repost)

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Servo888
01-27-08, 06:27 PM
Pete was that MTB guy and a regular here... I got fed up with him so I left the forums... Now I'm back and he's no where to be found. Did my dreams come true? :eek:
Servo
Oleanshoebox
01-27-08, 06:34 PM
I miss Pete.
BearSquirrel
01-27-08, 06:35 PM
Pete was that MTB guy and a regular here... I got fed up with him so I left the forums... Now I'm back and he's no where to be found. Did my dreams come true? :eek:
Servo
Yes Virginia, there is a Santa Claus.
Servo888
01-27-08, 06:54 PM
Yes Virginia, there is a Santa Claus.
I feel like giving somebody a hug.
mtnbiker66
01-27-08, 08:29 PM
I miss Pete.
Me too.
Blade-Runner
01-27-08, 08:39 PM
I don't miss his drama.
Can we have pete back for a while?
It was amusing.
gunga din
01-27-08, 08:52 PM
I don't miss all the drama that I experienced when my goofy posts were questioned.
Fixed.
I got fed up with him so I left the forums...
Translation: You posted a bunch of crazy stuff, your lack of experience and the craziness of your posts were pointed out to you, and you ran away when confronted with the truth.
http://www.bikeforums.net/archive/index.php/t-357938.html
People should disregard the crazy things that you have posted.
Blade-Runner
01-27-08, 08:56 PM
Fixed.
Translation: You posted a bunch of crazy stuff, your lack of experience and the craziness of your posts were pointed out to you, and you ran away when confronted with the truth.
http://www.bikeforums.net/archive/index.php/t-357938.html
People should disregard the crazy things that you have posted.
Hmmmm........... Do we have a new dickhead, I mean Pete?
Hmmmm........... Do we have a new dickhead, I mean Pete?
Being hostile when your posts are called into question is foolish.
You really do have to understand that he just slams people for ******** posts. Can't say he hasn't caught me doing that a few times.
I mean, I'll admit, I think his methods are screwy and I wouldn't do it myself, but to each his own I suppose.
pyroguy_3
01-27-08, 09:20 PM
Being hostile when your posts are called into question is foolish.
You really do have to understand that he just slams people for ******** posts. Can't say he hasn't caught me doing that a few times.
I mean, I'll admit, I think his methods are screwy and I wouldn't do it myself, but to each his own I suppose.
While he may know what he is talking about, most of the slams I witnessed were him picking out asinine details/mistakes and taking them out of context. Granted I wouldn't have minded him showing up in the ricOh fiasco, but he really had no filter as to when somebody was making an honest mistake as opposed to being annoyingly ignorant.
gunga din
01-27-08, 09:29 PM
Granted I wouldn't have minded him showing up in the ricOh fiasco,
..and it's posts like that which make this forum so fun to read.
Folks like you that can't see that they are being played by a regular posting as "ric0h," or *****, or ******, or ****** just add to the entertainment around here.
It's quite telling that the folks who are posting over-the-top parodies of the "typical" posts around here are for the most part able to play folks along for weeks ad weeks.
It's funny for the folks that can see through the mockery, and quite telling about the fish who swallow the bait and ask for more of it.
Kudos to the puppet masters!
Terrapin Ben
01-27-08, 10:19 PM
I liked Pete. He called me out on some stupid remarks a few times, but you know i probably had it coming. He added a good deal of entertainment to the thread, but i do think he was a bit obsessed and could not take a punch himself. When anyone tried to call pete on his bs, that's when things crossed the line. Things have gotten pretty ugly with egos on here. For the record, I am glad i am not reading anymore ric0h posts anymore. Those were just plain annoying!
Has anyone ever seen Pete's bike? I always wanted to.
wethepeople
01-27-08, 11:04 PM
He had lots, I have a few pics of his Intense M3 on top of his 997.
I am glad that he is gone and hope it stays that way. I don't see why people need to "be played" or mess with people of this forum. I guess if you average 5.6 posts per day and are one of the regulars here, it is all fun and games. However, for the new people with questions that are only looking for help, people like Pete are a disservice to the sport of mountain biking.
He had lots, I have a few pics of his Intense M3 on top of his 997.
Didnt even know he had an M3.
He said his bike was 19 pounds with heavy tires. I can assure you thats not the M3 :D
He had lots, I have a few pics of his Intense M3 on top of his 997.
I think he owned a Turner too.
Pete schmete. If the Ric0h debacle was his then good for showing up the mods for what they are. Otherwise who needs that much grief.
elemental
01-28-08, 08:16 AM
I am glad that he is gone and hope it stays that way. I don't see why people need to "be played" or mess with people of this forum. I guess if you average 5.6 posts per day and are one of the regulars here, it is all fun and games. However, for the new people with questions that are only looking for help, people like Pete are a disservice to the sport of mountain biking.
After having spent some time in Road Cycling and SSFG, I came to this forum last October or so when I was looking to buy a mountain bike. Though my mountain bike knowledge was fairly limited, I knew quite a bit about bikes in general and wanted to expand my skills and knowledge into a new area. People like Pete and others made this forum miserable by twisting and mocking anything anyone said and offering no help whatsoever. I wasn't here long, but that's how I perceived it.
I think ideally these forums should be about sharing information and advice, and the fewer "characters" we have the better. See the Road Cycling forum if you don't know what I mean. I how someone to create an internet alter-ego for hos or her own amusement furthers the sport in any way. "To each his own" I guess.
However, for the new people with questions that are only looking for help, people like Pete are a disservice to the sport of mountain biking.
Obviously you and a lot of other people missed the point of what Pete was doing in those threads. If people didn't post uninformed or stupid information in response to a newbie's question, Pete wouldn't post. It was when erroneous information was given in response to a question that he would get involved. Regardless of his methods, his posts slowed the spread of misinformation.
New people (to the forums/biking) getting advice from people who know just as little...that doesn't help anyone learn.
junkyard
01-28-08, 10:39 AM
People who hate on Pete suck.
BearSquirrel
01-28-08, 10:54 AM
After having spent some time in Road Cycling and SSFG, I came to this forum last October or so when I was looking to buy a mountain bike. Though my mountain bike knowledge was fairly limited, I knew quite a bit about bikes in general and wanted to expand my skills and knowledge into a new area. People like Pete and others made this forum miserable by twisting and mocking anything anyone said and offering no help whatsoever. I wasn't here long, but that's how I perceived it.
We all have to patient with beginners. We all have to find some common ground. I don't think Pete was ever interested in this. He seemed to just like slamming people.
People who hate on Pete suck.People who hate on other people in any fashion suck. Live and let live.
As for where he is, he's here. His petefagerlin identity was banned; but that does not mean he isn't still around. He still reads and, when a thread comes up that piques his interest (like this one), he creates a new sock-puppet and posts.
I will be somewhat dismayed if this thread goes beyond one page now that the OP's question has been answered. It will just mean that there is too much fascination (from one side or the other) with one person and that too many people need a life.
Servo888
01-28-08, 03:43 PM
Fixed.
Translation: You posted a bunch of crazy stuff, your lack of experience and the craziness of your posts were pointed out to you, and you ran away when confronted with the truth.
http://www.bikeforums.net/archive/index.php/t-357938.html
People should disregard the crazy things that you have posted.
First off that was the only 'crazy' thing I said so far. All I said was that hard tails were just as reliable as soft tails, major example being BMX bikes. And he went ballistic. Now that didn't really piss me off, it was just his attitude and troll like behavior.
ie:
http://img29.picoodle.com/img/img29/4/1/28/f_bottlem_dbdf187.png
First off that was the only 'crazy' thing I said so far. All I said was that hard tails were just as reliable as soft tails, major example being BMX bikes. And he went ballistic. Now that didn't really piss me off, it was just his attitude and troll like behavior.
Nobody likes it when their own erroneous statements are pointed out. Get over it.
Thread closed.
gunga din
01-28-08, 03:56 PM
All I said was that hard tails were just as reliable as soft tails, major example being BMX bikes.
Which hardtails are you comparing to which "softails" (BTW, there's a difference between a softtail and a full suspension bike, but I'm assuming that you are referring to FS bikes)?
Your broad generalization that hardtails are just as reliable as "softtails", especially when your abject lack of experience is considered, three weeks of shopping) is crazy.
And he went ballistic.
You are confusing laughing at, and correcting, your goofy claims with "going ballistic."
http://img29.picoodle.com/img/img29/4/1/28/f_bottlem_dbdf187.png
That just proves that you continue to grasp at straws.
ZeCanon
01-28-08, 04:46 PM
Pete, it would be easier to hide if you didn't use the "quote and respond" tactic in the exact same manner with every new identity.
Have you ever thought that, perhaps, there may be something wrong with your behavior? You know, given that you've been banned numerous times? Or do you just not care?
elemental
01-28-08, 04:54 PM
I guess that would answer the original question, wouldn't it?
gunga din
01-28-08, 04:54 PM
Pete, it would be easier to hide if you didn't use the "quote and respond" tactic in the exact same manner with every new identity.
You're assuming that other folks behave like you would, i.e. trying to hide.
Bad assumption on your part.
Have you ever thought that, perhaps, there may be something wrong with your behavior? You know, given that you've been banned numerous times? Or do you just not care?
There will always be delicate flower types that cannot handle having their erroneous statements pointed out, cannot accept that sometimes a discussion doesn't go their way, etc., etc.. Those fragile types will, more often than not, cry and complain about their goofiness being pointed out, discussions that make them uncomfortable, discussions that paint them in a bad light, etc., etc..
Old School
01-28-08, 04:59 PM
Gunga,
Be honest now, aren't you really Pete's evil cyber-twin??
No, it's just coincidental.
junkyard
01-28-08, 05:48 PM
I was having a bad day until now.
taylor p
01-28-08, 05:51 PM
I was having a bad day until now.
+2
pyroguy_3
01-28-08, 06:05 PM
There will always be delicate flower types that cannot handle having their erroneous statements pointed out, cannot accept that sometimes a discussion doesn't go their way, etc., etc.. Those fragile types will, more often than not, cry and complain about their goofiness being pointed out, discussions that make them uncomfortable, discussions that paint them in a bad light, etc., etc..
Or maybe these "delicate flower types" are just not complete jerkoffs? Did you ever think that maybe Pete has an inferiority complex? How else do you explain his apparently nagging need to correct everybody in a way that belittles them? Maybe he's just a dick.
mtnbiker66
01-28-08, 06:13 PM
I'm a big fan of catch and release.
xcracer13
01-28-08, 06:29 PM
If you don't get all defensive about being corrected when you're actually wrong then you might actually learn something
If you don't get all defensive about being corrected when you're actually wrong then you might actually learn something
Good post. This guy is a teenager and he "gets" it. Personally, I love banter, it makes the night shift fly by.
gunga din
01-28-08, 06:42 PM
Or maybe these "delicate flower types" are just not complete jerkoffs?
Maybe, maybe not. You're a delicate flower type, are you a partial jerkoff or a complete jerkoff?
The fact remains that they are incredibly fragile and have a great deal of difficulty when their goofy notions are challenged. See some of your posts for perfect examples of that behavior.
Did you ever think that maybe Pete has an inferiority complex?
No.
How else do you explain his apparently nagging need to correct everybody in a way that belittles them?
Did you ever think (I know, that's a big stretch for you) that this "nagging need to correct everybody" is just something that you've made up, and is unsupported by any intelligent analysis of all of the posts in this forum?
Maybe he's just a dick.
There's that delicate flower type world view again.
xcracer13
01-28-08, 06:48 PM
Originally Posted by pyroguy_3
"How else do you explain his apparently nagging need to correct everybody in a way that belittles them"?
Maybe they need to learn how to take in constructive criticism?
pyroguy_3
01-28-08, 06:58 PM
Originally Posted by pyroguy_3
"How else do you explain his apparently nagging need to correct everybody in a way that belittles them"?
Maybe they need to learn how to take in constructive criticism?
I am all for constructive criticism. I will gladly accept corrections that are directed at me. The problem comes when somebody brash like Pete comes along and tries to make somebody feel ignorant for making a mistake. Then it becomes just criticism because it is not intended to help. Like I said before, while he may know the material about which he is speaking, he has little to no social/moral filter. He also needs to learn how to produce better replies than restating what he just said i.e. delicate flower type. Name calling is all good and fun, but at least come up with some new stuff.
gunga din
01-28-08, 07:06 PM
I am all for constructive criticism. I will gladly accept corrections that are directed at me (sob! really, I mean it, sob!). The problem comes when somebody brash like Pete comes along and tries to make somebody feel ignorant for making a mistake (sob!sob!sob!). Then it becomes just criticism because it is not intended to help (sob!sob!sob!). Like I said before, while he may know the material about which he is speaking, he has little to no social/moral filter (waaaaaaah!). He also needs to learn how to produce better replies than restating what he just said i.e. delicate flower type (sob). Name calling is all good and fun, but at least come up with some new stuff(like "jerkoff"! sob!)
Good grief it's a complete meltdown of epic delicate flower proportions!
Somebody grab the emergency hanky for this poor sap!
p.s. Here's some constructive criticism: Don't take things so seriously and you might, just might, not feel so inadequate. And grow a spine while you're at it!
Servo888
01-28-08, 07:09 PM
Your broad generalization that hardtails are just as reliable as "softtails", especially when your abject lack of experience is considered, three weeks of shopping) is crazy.
Since when is the internet a peer-reviewed journal? Lack of experience my butt, I spent 2 years designing and building aluminum frames for various types of robots (from 5lb to 150lb monsters), including a month long period of research and development using pneumatic rams. I don't see a 160lb dude doing much damage to a Trek 6000. Yes I may be wrong. The only way to prove that the bike can handle certain jumps is to do a structural stress analysis on the frame, fork, and the rest of the components. That will only take 4 weeks in the lab to complete. :rolleyes:
xcracer13
01-28-08, 07:11 PM
I am all for constructive criticism. I will gladly accept corrections that are directed at me. The problem comes when somebody brash like Pete comes along and tries to make somebody feel ignorant for making a mistake. Then it becomes just criticism because it is not intended to help. Like I said before, while he may know the material about which he is speaking, he has little to no social/moral filter. He also needs to learn how to produce better replies than restating what he just said i.e. delicate flower type. Name calling is all good and fun, but at least come up with some new stuff.
I wasn't really pointing that at you I was just saying, sometimes he was trying to be helpful but was took the wrong way.
santiago
01-28-08, 07:33 PM
Awesome!
gunga din
01-28-08, 07:35 PM
Since when is the internet a peer-reviewed journal?
Who claimed that it was? That just an ineffective attempt at a distraction that you're trying to make Captain Shopper.
Lack of experience my butt, I spent 2 years designing and building aluminum frames for various types of robots (from 5lb to 150lb monsters), including a month long period of research and development using pneumatic rams.
Yes, lack of mountain biking experience (shopping does not count!) and unfamiliarity with how FS frames insulate various component parts from some trail shock.
Allegedly playing with robots for a few years has not helped you gain an understanding of the relative reliability of different types of mountain bikes.
I don't see a 160lb dude doing much damage to a Trek 6000. Yes I may be wrong.
No, you have been and continue to be, wrong.
The only way to prove that the bike can handle certain jumps is to do a structural stress analysis on the frame, fork, and the rest of the components. That will only take 4 weeks in the lab to complete.
If that's the case (I think you're wrong on this "point" as well) then have you done that lab work? Which hardtails did you compare to which full suspension bikes?
Who is pete anyway? Another opiate for the masses i presume.
Servo888
01-28-08, 08:43 PM
Yes, lack of mountain biking experience (shopping does not count!) and unfamiliarity with how FS frames insulate various component parts from some trail shock. Allegedly playing with robots for a few years has not helped you gain an understanding of the relative reliability of different types of mountain bikes.
To the bat mobile, we must alert Trek, their hardtails may fail :D ! Yes FS bikes do insulate various components, reducing trail shock. But the reason for having a full suspension / front suspension bike is not to reduce trail shock on parts, it's to reduce the trial shock on the rider :rolleyes: (and improved control of the bike!). Point being companies are still producing hardtails made for abuse, with a warranty too!
If that's the case (I think you're wrong on this "point" as well) then have you done that lab work? Which hardtails did you compare to which full suspension bikes?
Nope, no such lab work exists out there... If it did we would not be having this conversation, now would we?
Bike Lover
01-28-08, 09:11 PM
Ibtl!
Point being companies are still producing hardtails made for abuse, with a warranty too!
Many of the high end hardtails being produced are made for xc racing, and so they sacrifice some durability for weight savings.
The only way to prove that the bike can handle certain jumps is to do a structural stress analysis on the frame, fork, and the rest of the components.
Nope, no such lab work exists out there...
I hope this is a joke.
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