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OK call me paranoid but I think this was a bad idea.
I pulled my daughter in her chariot this morning on the SC trail and passed a prison detail of about 5 working on the trails. While I appreciate the effort I think this may just be giving some prisoner an idea where he can find a lonely female victim after he gets out.
I see several lone women walkers etc... when I ride.
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I agree that this may be giving the prisoners a bad idea for when they get out. I ride on the SC as well, and see many women & children on the trail.
Don't ride or walk alone. Ever. Common sense. More things can happen then being attacked.
Was it close to the Wild Horse Spur? I have run into prison details working around there myself.
Originally posted by DieselDan
Don't ride or walk alone. Ever. Common sense. More things can happen then being attacked.
Or at least go out packin some heat!
I agree, but we become prisoners in our own homes at some point. It is not so bad being male as it is for females.
Originally posted by MisterJ
Was it close to the Wild Horse Spur? I have run into prison details working around there myself.
I'm unfamiliar with the wild horse spur but if my memeory serves me correctly it was not too awful far from the big tunnel on the eastern side of the tunnel.
Sam
Originally posted by DieselDan
Don't ride or walk alone. Ever. Common sense. More things can happen then being attacked.
You've gotta be kidding! I ride and walk alone frequently. In fact, I ride my commute to work solo just about every day. There is no way in the world I'm going to give in to that level of paranoia, despite what those who like to sell newspapers would prefer me to do.
And before I get a heap of replies along the lines of "you're lucky you don't live here", I'll point out that if I did live in a place where I was scared to go out alone, I'd move.
Originally posted by SamDaBikinMan
OK call me paranoid but I think this was a bad idea.
I pulled my daughter in her chariot this morning on the SC trail and passed a prison detail of about 5 working on the trails. While I appreciate the effort I think this may just be giving some prisoner an idea where he can find a lonely female victim after he gets out.
I see several lone women walkers etc... when I ride.
Yes I think you're being paranoid. I doubt the majority of prisoners are sex offenders/potential sex offenders, yes the prison population may hold a slightly higher proportion of these than the average population, but I doubt it's that high.
Originally posted by SamDaBikinMan
OK call me paranoid but I think this was a bad idea.
I pulled my daughter in her chariot this morning on the SC trail and passed a prison detail of about 5 working on the trails. While I appreciate the effort I think this may just be giving some prisoner an idea where he can find a lonely female victim after he gets out.
I see several lone women walkers etc... when I ride.
I think you may be paranoid (but that doesn't mean you are not being followed :)).
Who's to say that all the prisoners weren't car thieves, or burglars.?
Anyone who wants to rape or attack will locate places they can do this.
Not sure what you can do about it other than warn your little girl (when she is old enough to be out on her own) about dangers which can arise and instill in her enough common sense to know the dangerous areas and situations.
O/T I often think that we are tending to raise victims now. Kids are so protected by their parents that they have no "gumption" and cannot realise situations where people are acting strangely
Originally posted by SamDaBikinMan
I pulled my daughter in her chariot this morning on the SC trail and passed a prison detail of about 5 working on the trails.
I've never seen any prisoners on the SC trail but I have seen a Paulding County Deputy Sheriff at one on the rest areas and the policeman who patrols the trail in his "golf cart".
I see the prisoners at Stone Mountain Park almost every day. Are they prisoners or what? It says "State Probationer" on the back of their uniforms and on the bus but there is always one or two guards with them.
Not all prisoners will attack females after the release.
Or at least they can bring female prisoners to work on the trail. I never heard that a female attacked the lonely male jogger or cyclist on the trail.
Though sometimes I've been so lonely that I would not mind it, even if she was the former inmate :eek:
Originally posted by SamDaBikinMan
While I appreciate the effort I think this may just be giving some prisoner an idea where he can find a lonely female victim after he gets out.
Do you think it might have never occurred to them otherwise? This isn't some secret bike trail, is it?
We wouldn't want them to clean any of our streets either, following this logic, because they might discover the location of a bank or liquor store to rob.
I have to believe that the authorities are not allowing dangerous prisoners out on work details. From my experience, the type of prisoners who will be allowed out are for the most part non violent. From your description I am assuming that these prisoners were not on a chain gang. Where I live they put convicts out to work. The only incident I heard of was one guy who WALKED away from the detail. He was caught in no time at all.
I worry much less about criminals than about errant motorists.
I worry much less about criminals than about errant motorists.
I worry less about criminals than errant motorist.
I also worry less about errant motorist than hyperterrfied vigilantes.
To answer the question, the Wildhorse Spur is in Powder Springs, and the tunnel is about 15 miles west of there.
And when I was doing a lot of geocaching, I always carried a sidearm, because you never knew what (or who) you were going to find in the woods, especially near railroad tracks.
To answer the question, the Wildhorse Spur is in Powder Springs, and the tunnel is about 15 miles west of there.
And when I was doing a lot of geocaching, I always carried a sidearm, because you never knew what (or who) you were going to find in the woods, especially near railroad tracks.
Turn the other cheek, but pull a gun, right?
Kind of an odd statement from you.
Turn the other cheek, but pull a gun, right?
Kind of an odd statement from you.
I doubt Christ ever intended for Christians to interprete that as meaning be defenseless and allow thyself to be killed maimed and murdered in the name of peace.
I rather like to think he meant that there are things that are not worthy of a defensive/agressive reaction.
I doubt Christ ever intended for Christians to interprete that as meaning be defenseless and allow thyself to be killed maimed and murdered in the name of peace.
I rather like to think he meant that there are things that are not worthy of a defensive/agressive reaction.
Ah, who knows? We'll find out one day, may be someday.
Jesus did tell his diciples to carry a weapon. In fact, here's His words on the subject:
Jesus told them, "But now, if you have a moneybag, take it with you. Also take a traveling bag, and if you don't have a sword, [1] sell some of your clothes and buy one.
(Luke 22:36)
[1]22.36 moneybag. . . traveling bag. . . sword: These were things that someone would take on a dangerous journey. Jesus was telling his disciples to be ready for anything that might happen. They seem to have understood what he meant
When He talked about living by the sword, He meant that you were not to be the bad guy, the bully, the thief or robber, lest you fall under the same punishment you dish out; not that you are to be defenseless.
And what happened to the quote button that was at the bottom right in the posts? Mine has disappeared with this new format.
Jesus did tell his diciples to carry a weapon. In fact, here's His words on the subject:
Jesus told them, "But now, if you have a moneybag, take it with you. Also take a traveling bag, and if you don't have a sword, [1] sell some of your clothes and buy one.
(Luke 22:36)
[1]22.36 moneybag. . . traveling bag. . . sword: These were things that someone would take on a dangerous journey. Jesus was telling his disciples to be ready for anything that might happen. They seem to have understood what he meant
When He talked about living by the sword, He meant that you were not to be the bad guy, the bully, the thief or robber, lest you fall under the same punishment you dish out; not that you are to be defenseless.
And what happened to the quote button that was at the bottom right in the posts? Mine has disappeared with this new format.
Thank you pointyhead. This is as I invisioned Christs intents.
It seems the reply button inserts the post into the quote format. That is what I used for my replies.
SirSpinsalot.
Well it worked for me. Are you holding your left ear while rubbing your tummy before pressing the reply button?
Hmm, like this?
OK, now I get it.
Just curios, what is prison detail? Is this something like slave labour?
Just curios, what is prison detail? Is this something like slave labour?
Here in the United States (or at least some of the states) will take non-violent, non-sex offender inmates in the prison system and use them outside the jail to do physical labor like picking up trash, cutting grass or clearing vegetation from trails and roadsides. It costs less than having to pay someone else to do it, and it gives them plenty of fresh air and exercise. It's a way of making them repay a little of the debt to society that they owe for breaking our laws.
Hope this clarifies it some for you.
Thanks, it is probably better then rotting in prison. I understand that in some Canadian prisons they have inmates build furniture for government agencies.
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