Road Cycling - How much are Team Performance points actually worth?

Huh? Tell me now.

100 points = $1 in future purchase discount

100 point to the dollar

edit ,, beat me by a moment.

I think that it's 1 cent per point. You get ten points per dollar spent.

Yep, 1 point = 1 cent. I've been earning and redeeming them quite a bit this year (I redeem them for purchases I don't want the wife to know about :D )

Yep, 1 point = 1 cent. I've been earning and redeeming them quite a bit this year (I redeem them for purchases I don't want the wife to know about :D )
LOL! This year I am going to try and save all my points for a year end present to myself. Hopefully a Kurt Kinetic Pro trainer.

I think that it's 1 cent per point. You get ten points per dollar spent.

Hmmmmm..........:rolleyes:

Nevermind, went off wrong information I think.

I think that it's 1 cent per point. You get ten points per dollar spent.

Good thing you are not in my Physics class...:rolleyes:


You would have lost me with that explanation.

Good thing you are not in my Physics class...:rolleyes:

Sure, what class would you rather he be in? :eek:

Sure, what class would you rather he be in? :eek:

Fixed...he lost me with that one...just like my physics course...:o

I make easy things hard. :D

You should see me trying to explain the basics of the windows interface to my parents.

It's not pretty.

LOL! This year I am going to try and save all my points for a year end present to myself. Hopefully a Kurt Kinetic Pro trainer.

Hmm, I hadn't seen the KK trainer on their site, otherwise I would have gotten it during their trainer sale last week.

-D

^^^^ they dont sell the KK and i dont think they ever have.

later.

^^^^ they dont sell the KK and i dont think they ever have.

later.

Yea I know. I have been debating, KK, which is a great trainer and probably the last one I would every buy.

Or

Save some $$$ buying from performance and maybe wishing I had gotten the KK.

-D

So... do you think it's 1¢ per point?

Thanks all.

Can you use your points when ordering online? I'm probably missing it, but I don't see that option.

^^^ - I don't think so. You have to call them and place the order that way.

Nu-uh, I've always found it during checkout. Isn't there a radial button for it?

Can you use your points when ordering online? I'm probably missing it, but I don't see that option.

Yes. It's on one of the checkout screens. Done it many times.

The "team points" deal is just a way of getting you to buy stuff in Performance shops. The only time it really makes sense is if you have made the decision to buy a high end bike in a performance store. Then you can get a few bucks credit on your one time purchase toward some accessories you might want for that bike. Other than that, these kind of deals don't offer much benefit, still less because you pay into it, and just ties you to the store as you try to buy enough to make up the up front payment.

Performance will do it because it costs them nothing. They charge a yearly fee, which is set by the average payout they make over all their customers. So they break even on the deal and, in the process, tie customers to their store. It increases sales without any associated cost.

The only other time I'd consider it is if Performance was the only place I shopped already (perhaps there are no good bike shops around or something). Then, if you buy a lot, your rebate is greater than your buy in and you are basically being subsidized by those people who thought it was a good deal but didn't buy enough to cover their buy-in cost.

The "team points" deal is just a way of getting you to buy stuff in Performance shops. The only time it really makes sense is if you have made the decision to buy a high end bike in a performance store. Then you can get a few bucks credit on your one time purchase toward some accessories you might want for that bike. Other than that, these kind of deals don't offer much benefit, still less because you pay into it, and just ties you to the store as you try to buy enough to make up the up front payment.

Performance will do it because it costs them nothing. They charge a yearly fee, which is set by the average payout they make over all their customers. So they break even on the deal and, in the process, tie customers to their store. It increases sales without any associated cost.

The only other time I'd consider it is if Performance was the only place I shopped already (perhaps there are no good bike shops around or something). Then, if you buy a lot, your rebate is greater than your buy in and you are basically being subsidized by those people who thought it was a good deal but didn't buy enough to cover their buy-in cost.

Between me and my girl, we go through three tubes of Chamois Butt'r a month, a big jug and a half of Accelerade, and a jug of Endurox. Worth it for that alone.

Edit: Besides lube and prolink, I get everything else from BikesDirect.
Edit Edit: Seriously, it's ******** that Performance doesn't carry clothing in small. What only fat people shop there?

The only other time I'd consider it is if Performance was the only place I shopped already (perhaps there are no good bike shops around or something). Then, if you buy a lot, your rebate is greater than your buy in and you are basically being subsidized by those people who thought it was a good deal but didn't buy enough to cover their buy-in cost.

Well, that's the point. They want you to make it the only place you shop. I found it much easier to just cut them off completely. Their website is nothing more than a picked-over garage sale. I went there recently to try to use some gift certificates from over a year ago. EVERY single thing I wanted to buy was out of stock. Socks, bottom bracket, chain... their shoes are always picked over...

Heaven forbid I make the mistake of going to the physical store where the prices are even higher and they still don't have much in stock. If performance closed their doors tomorrow I think the cycling community would be MUCH better off for it.

Well, that's the point. They want you to make it the only place you shop. I found it much easier to just cut them off completely. Their website is nothing more than a picked-over garage sale. I went there recently to try to use some gift certificates from over a year ago. EVERY single thing I wanted to buy was out of stock. Socks, bottom bracket, chain... their shoes are always picked over...

Heaven forbid I make the mistake of going to the physical store where the prices are even higher and they still don't have much in stock. If performance closed their doors tomorrow I think the cycling community would be MUCH better off for it.

I feel silly defending Performance but like I said above it's the most convenient place to get consumables. Those cost so much more at the LBS, which don't even stock regularly.

Anyone know where else to get recovery stuff besides them? Really, I'm curious—maybe you know something I don't.

The "team points" deal is just a way of getting you to buy stuff in Performance shops. The only time it really makes sense is if you have made the decision to buy a high end bike in a performance store. Then you can get a few bucks credit on your one time purchase toward some accessories you might want for that bike. Other than that, these kind of deals don't offer much benefit, still less because you pay into it, and just ties you to the store as you try to buy enough to make up the up front payment.

Performance will do it because it costs them nothing. They charge a yearly fee, which is set by the average payout they make over all their customers. So they break even on the deal and, in the process, tie customers to their store. It increases sales without any associated cost.

The only other time I'd consider it is if Performance was the only place I shopped already (perhaps there are no good bike shops around or something). Then, if you buy a lot, your rebate is greater than your buy in and you are basically being subsidized by those people who thought it was a good deal but didn't buy enough to cover their buy-in cost.

There's also the free upgrade to 2nd day shipping. With several Performance Bike shops in the area and with their website, I generally accumulate about $100 in points a year. Last year, I got a drop bar for my road bike, a helmet, and some other misc parts and consumables. That's on top of the quicker shipping, both to my home and for "ship to store".

I'm not sure I'll renew it again. The first year was good because I got the free sub to Bicycling Magazine, but I didn't get that this year with the renewal and I'm not buying as much from them as I did in the past (more specialized needs).

Chris

Between me and my girl, we go through three tubes of Chamois Butt'r a month, a big jug and a half of Accelerade, and a jug of Endurox. Worth it for that alone.

Edit: Besides lube and prolink, I get everything else from BikesDirect.
Edit Edit: Seriously, it's ******** that Performance doesn't carry clothing in small. What only fat people shop there?

Holy mother... What are you and your girl doing with the Chamois Butt'r that has you going through three tubes a month?! I've been riding almost every day of the week, using a dab of Butt'r to keep things smooth down there every ride for the past six months and I haven't gone through even one tube yet.

And unless you are doing some serious training, you don't need so much recovery drink. You can save a bunch of money if you skip out on those. Drink chocolate milk instead. Apparently it works better.

Other than that, these kind of deals don't offer much benefit, still less because you pay into it, and just ties you to the store as you try to buy enough to make up the up front payment.


The membership is $25. So if you spend $250 you break even, and after that it is essentially a %10 off (that you must use on in-store purchases). The nice thing about it is that you can stack it on top of other purchases (i.e. earning credit on a clearance rack item).

I would say if you are going to definitely spend >$250 you should do it. Some items are offered at MSRP regardless of whether you buy them there or at your LBS so it makes sense to get a little extra off. You can get free shipping as well if you have a store nearby. The bicycling mag subscription on your first year is also nice.

The membership is $25. So if you spend $250 you break even, and after that it is essentially a %10 off (that you must use on in-store purchases). The nice thing about it is that you can stack it on top of other purchases (i.e. earning credit on a clearance rack item).

I would say if you are going to definitely spend >$250 you should do it. Some items are offered at MSRP regardless of whether you buy them there or at your LBS so it makes sense to get a little extra off. You can get free shipping as well if you have a store nearby. The bicycling mag subscription on your first year is also nice.

All that is assuming that they have what you need, and that you're not spending more by purchasing the item through them. If you have the store nearby, you're also hit with taxes that you typically avoid with mailorder. Just saying, it's more complex than the $250 limit.

All that is assuming that they have what you need, and that you're not spending more by purchasing the item through them. If you have the store nearby, you're also hit with taxes that you typically avoid with mailorder. Just saying, it's more complex than the $250 limit.

True, but if you also factor in a reasonable value for the bicycling mag subscription (at least for the first year), it is even a lower break-even point for it to be worthwhile. You do definitely need to think about membership beforehand and decide if it will be profitable or not. I'm sure many people don't, and thus it earns Performance some money for "unused" memberships.

You do pay tax but that is often roughly equivalent to the shipping fees you pay online. Depending on your state, it may even be a lot less than shipping. I agree with others that Performance is lacking in many categories of bike stuff, especially components (god, they have absolutely no parts it seems). However, I think it would be hard to argue that they aren't a great source of consumables and cheap clothing.