Foo - Punishments will commence!!!

I just got an email from my wife. Her aunt saw our daughter walking in the rain 20 mins late for school.
My wife dropped her off early that morning. The night before our daughter told her that she and her friends were going to a local store to hang out before school - after being dropped off. My wife flipped and told her to never do that again. Of course she had every excuse as to why she was able to do it. And her friends are doing it. So instead of saying, "Yes ma'am," and not doing it. She said, "Yes ma'am," and went and did it anyway. In the rain.

13?

12

hehe...close enough. That's about when my son lost his mind. My daughter is 13 now and while she certainly pushes the limits in terms of being a smart-ass, so far she hasn't gotten into the whole "tell you what you want to hear then do what I want anyway" deal.

I still remember being that age

make me not wanna have kids until they are 18...

It'll only get worse, I say trade her in for a newer model.

She lives on the other side of things and thinks she can get away with more at school - because the teachers like her and she's popular.

I had my @55 handed to me because I was different and skinny.

I'm not falling for this crap. We get too many phone calls, too many kids coming over, teachers letting her get away with stuff all the time. I'm tired of it. This year has been a mess.

Her grades aren't suffering. But that's a puzzle in itself. She never has homework. But her benchmarks are good and she's making 105% in science and a 95% in math. WTF. I studied my rear off and failed.

Something else is going on.

Oh and her new boy friend is one step away from juvie.

I still remember being that age

make me not wanna have kids until they are 18...

18?
Try 30!

She lives on the other side of things and thinks she can get away with more at school - because the teachers like her and she's popular.

I had my @55 handed to me because I was different and skinny.

I'm not falling for this crap. We get too many phone calls, too many kids coming over, teachers letting her get away with stuff all the time. I'm tired of it. This year has been a mess.

Her grades aren't suffering. But that's a puzzle in itself. She never has homework. But her benchmarks are good and she's making 105% in science and a 95% in math. WTF. I studied my rear off and failed.

Something else is going on.

Oh and her new boy friend is one step away from juvie.


School may not be much of a challenge for her. As I recall, homework was easily dispatched before I got home.

Still doesn't mean that something else isn't going on

Agreed... I finished all my work at school so I could go hang out :D

School may not be much of a challenge for her. As I recall, homework was easily dispatched before I got home.

Still doesn't mean that something else isn't going on

When she was in private school she was definately challenged - and so were we. She's doing stuff now that she did two years ago.

But it's the whole "going through the changes trying to find yourself thing" that's challenging us now.

See if the public school won't bump her up a grade, not that it would be any more challenging.

I have daughters at 14 and 10, I feel your pain man.

mine are now 23 and 26, you have my sympathies.

might I suggest music or other extra activity to channel her need for a challenge? I was able to get through most of my homework quickly and easily in school too and I hadn't had the head start she had with the private school. No challenge = boredom = trouble.

Mine is 22 now. No dating allowed until 16. 12 is waaaaay too young to be having a boyfriend IMO. Hopefully you won't become a grandfather prematurely.

:( Don't cave. What we need are more parents on the ball! Sounds easy for people like me (no kids) to say you need to do this and should do that but you know what's best :)

:( Don't cave. What we need are more parents on the ball! Sounds easy for people like me (no kids) to say you need to do this and should do that but you know what's best :)

+11111111111000000000

Mine is 22 now. No dating allowed until 16. 12 is waaaaay too young to be having a boyfriend IMO. Hopefully you won't become a grandfather prematurely.

I do not approve at all. Trust me. But her mother doesn't see anything wrong with it. The kid is a doofus. He gets in trouble all the time. My wife thinks it's a phase. I think my daughter is attracted to these types of guys. This is coming up tonight too.

oops gotta go. we are getting ready to talk with her. more later

Punishments will commence!!!
Spank me, spank me!! You're my daddy! You're my daddy!! Spank me daddy!!


Oh wait.....you were going another direction with that.....never mind. :rolleyes:.

About the homework, I have MSIP, which would be study hall in America, which is a hour to do your homework, so you don't have to do it at home/not do so much at home.

Do you have an old dry well you can drop these doofuses down? ;)

Spank me, spank me!! You're my daddy! You're my daddy!! Spank me daddy!!


Oh wait.....you were going another direction with that.....never mind. :rolleyes:.

Oh, you are a naughty boy aren't you?

Do you have an old dry well you can drop these doofuses down?

No. Maybe I'm being to hard on him. I don't know him enough to judge him - except that he likes my daughter and I've heard he got in to some trouble. So I want to rip him apart for even looking at her.

Oh, you are a naughty boy aren't you?
You have to ask? :rolleyes:

Read a book called: QBQ: The Question Behind The Question....

I wouldn't have done anything like that when I was a kid, BUT i accredit my grandfather(s) and my great aunt for that....and my parents for the spankings and soap in the mouth!

kids these days walk ALL OVER their parents, why? Parents should ask themselves: What can I do about this situation? instead of blaming the kids. Same thing our judicial system needs to learn how to do: PUNISHMENT. NO tv, NO ipod, NO computer, NO hanging with friends, NO anything for week, month, year??? go to school, come home do homework, go to bed, get the idea? and enforce it. If they dont follow, call Maury :D haha

and...good luck!

At 39 and looking back at things I wish my father beat the crap out of me once just to let me know who was boss. I actually deserved it 100 times but one good beating might have made me "take notice" and straighten up. But he was a nice passive dad. I F`up a lot. I`m lucky I ever made it this far. And I do mean lucky. Kids need discipline, they are not adults until 30. Do not spare the rod, do not be there friend. Be the boss.

No phone. No computer. No friends. No weekend sleep overs.

It went like this:

Did your mother say this?
Yes,but ...

Talk talk talk

So, you actually asked your friend if she wanted to go? She didn't come to you and ask?
Well, she walked up to me, but ...
But you asked her to go.
But she walked up to me.

Talk talk talk

So, you snuck out of school to go.
Well, there was a teacher getting out of her car ...

and it goes on and on. You get the picture.

At 39 and looking back at things I wish my father beat the crap out of me once just to let me know who was boss. I actually deserved it 100 times but one good beating might have made me "take notice" and straighten up. But he was a nice passive dad. I F`up a lot. I`m lucky I ever made it this far. And I do mean lucky. Kids need discipline, they are not adults until 30. Do not spare the rod, do not be there friend. Be the boss.

She gets less of the spankings these days. I wallopped her when she was mouthing off and her mother told her to shut up. She turned and said, "You don't tell me to shut up." She got a good one.

I have no advice to help you with your daughter Sub, but for all of you with daughters 22-30, I'm single, responsible, mature, in the military.....wait, that isn't where this thread was going either is it? Where is that singles thread....?

Sub, It sounds like you are making the right moves, just stay strong here and don't let her take over. ;)

As a teacher at a private school we get the occasional (;)) student that hasn't had any discipline and they infect the entire school.

What did you find out about the maggot boyfriend? Oh and plus infinity, 12 is way to young to have a boyfriend. Way to young...

Steven

I have no idea what proper parenting is.
I suspect that there is some fine balance of
setting boundaries but doing so in a way that
the kid respects--once the kid starts to hate you
for responding to severely then you have deeper problems.
But then again I was completely and totally immune
to parenting and any sort of attempt to set rules
by the time I was about 15. I figured stuff out on my
own for lack of a parent I respected. So I really
have no idea--as I said. It seems like the ideal
is mutual respect. Of course the parents have
to set boundaries but the erosion of respect on
the side of either parent or child does not bode
well.

Something else is going on.

Oh and her new boy friend is one step away from juvie.

This is the answer my friend. New boyfriend that is a bad seed and the age of 12.

Let me tell you, when my youngest son was in the 7th grade last year he was getting straight A's, but he has a friend who liked the lower part of the alphabet on his report card, mainly the F letter. So my son, being the kind caring kid that he is :rolleyes:, decided that he did not want his friend to fail all by himself, so he said, self, I think I'll just quit doing my work and me and pinhead friend will fail together. Yes, you read that right, he was going to fail school so the other kid would feel better about himself. :eek::eek:

I get a call from the school telling me that he is caught skipping in a park across from the school with this kid so my wife and I go into to have a sit down with all his teacher and this is when we find out that he is falling all his classes. I never see him with homework either, but this seems to be the trend these days as homework is bad and hurtful to the student psyche. Anyway, he has not turn in any work or homework since Oct and his gpa went from 96 to 38.:mad: Needless to say, Dad was not pleased. Then, when I thought, ok, this will be a huge lesson, all the fricken teachers tell him, if he does the work he has missed before Christmas, 10 days time, they will give him credit for it, but some points taken off due to the situation at hand. I was not happy they offered this, but the wife looked at him before I got the word "No" out and said, you better get busy. He got all of it done and turned in and they gave him full credit :eek:. When I got his report card, he ended up having a higher GPA that before.

Now where is the lesson in that, theres not one. Luckily, the bad seed moved away and my son has been doing great this whole year.

Since I only have boys, ***prays to god thanking him one more time ***, I'm not sure on what to tell you, but man that would piss me off pretty good. My sister has two girls and I see here pull her hair out all the time with the crap they pull.

read "Reviving Ophilia" Good book on teenage girls

The boyfriend thing:

I'm told that it is just a puppy-love thing - nothin serious. But I think otherwise. My daughter thinks it's cool to be dating ( :rolleyes: ) a boy all the time. I told her it was stupid. Her grades should be the most important thing in school - not boys, or friends, or anything else. My wife doesn't think there's anything wrong with her having a BF. Whatever.

I also told them that when a boy figures out that little thing between his thighs tends to start thinking for him, he will get his current GF involved and try to manipulate her into doing things she shouldn't. Mainly by saying things like, "If you really love me ..."

I know, I did it too. I was 14 when I lost my virginity (2 years older than my daughter and her BF) I was told that when (when? WTF) it gets to that we would do something. How the he77 are we going to know? My wife will no - she's a genie :rolleyes:

Dad had very little to stand on because mommy is a better, more knowledable, caring parent. :rolleyes: <- again on that.

I still remember being that age

make me not wanna have kids until they are 18...

Ooooh, that delivery's gonna hurt like a...

Mine is 22 now. No dating allowed until 16. 12 is waaaaay too young to be having a boyfriend IMO. Hopefully you won't become a grandfather prematurely.

Absolutely. School is the number one priority for my daughter. To hell with boyfriends.