Road Cycling - Road Bike weights?

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I'm just curious about how heavy road bikes tend to run...
I weighed mine on bathroom scale and got 23.5 lbs w/pump, two empty water bottles and my saddle bag w/tools.
I think that's pretty good, but don't have any basis of comparison.
Big R
2000 Kona Kapu w/ Ultegra
SipperPhoto
10-07-03, 11:54 AM
I'm just curious about how heavy road bikes tend to run...
I weighed mine on bathroom scale and got 23.5 lbs w/pump, two empty water bottles and my saddle bag w/tools.
I think that's pretty good, but don't have any basis of comparison.
Big R
2000 Kona Kapu w/ Ultegra
my bike weighs in on the scale at about 17 lbs. without bottles, or my seat pack.. I have a Lemond Maillot Jaune with Ultegra and Shimano 540 wheels... fully loaded I'm guessing I tip the scales at around 20-ish ?
JEff
pgreene
10-07-03, 01:00 PM
my bike weighs in on the scale at about 17 lbs. without bottles, or my seat pack.. I have a Lemond Maillot Jaune with Ultegra and Shimano 540 wheels... fully loaded I'm guessing I tip the scales at around 20-ish ?
JEff
i've always thought anything under 20 pounds is leaning towards light. i'm probably at 21-22 with the seat pack. of course, it's not really what your bike weighs. it always amuses me to see guys on 30 pound 7 speeds dusting kids on 16 pounders at the sprint of a local group ride...
Renault78law
10-07-03, 01:14 PM
My bike weighs in at 20lbs with pack, cages, and computer. I regard 20lbs and lighter as "light." The cost of making it any lighter is exponential. As the others mentioned, the weight of the bike as little to do with anything.
Well, my bike weighs in at 21 lbs and that is with heavy duty wheels, 25 mm tires, and a pack with spare tube, tire irons, spoke wrench, chain tool and allen wrenches.
SipperPhoto
10-07-03, 02:17 PM
i've always thought anything under 20 pounds is leaning towards light. i'm probably at 21-22 with the seat pack. of course, it's not really what your bike weighs. it always amuses me to see guys on 30 pound 7 speeds dusting kids on 16 pounders at the sprint of a local group ride...
I used to waste the older guys on my 6 speed Centurion up until I got the Lemond... and they were on Trek 5900's.. hehe old guys with too much money, and not enough legs to make it worth it... I wanna say the Centurion weighs in around 25 lbs. bare... it's a bit heavy... going from that to the Lemond is heaven...
Jeff
roadfix
10-07-03, 02:38 PM
When my bike and myself combined, weigh 185, we feel very sluggish. But once we're down to under 175, we can really fly!
George
Well,
when I put my bike on the scale, the scale said 25 pounds. And while that is a lot; it's not a lot for a touring bike with a rack and fenders on it. One of those cup half empty/half full deals. I plan on going on of those pricey sagged touring vacations someday. I want to do the 10 day ocean to ocean ride across Italy. The rack and fenders will come off. I also plan on buying some light weight parts, and getting the weight down close to 20.
Phatman
10-07-03, 03:37 PM
I'm around 19 for mine with out anything strapped to it. with water though, that brings the weight up another 3-4 pounds, and my seat pack is probably a half a pound. I really need a chase car, man.
shokhead
10-07-03, 05:30 PM
I used to waste the older guys on my 6 speed Centurion up until I got the Lemond... and they were on Trek 5900's.. hehe old guys with too much money, and not enough legs to make it worth it... I wanna say the Centurion weighs in around 25 lbs. bare... it's a bit heavy... going from that to the Lemond is heaven...
Jeff
I was one of those old guys you must have went past.Course i was only doing 5mph downhill.LOL
I used to waste the older guys on my 6 speed Centurion up until I got the Lemond... and they were on Trek 5900's.. hehe old guys with too much money, and not enough legs to make it worth it... I wanna say the Centurion weighs in around 25 lbs. bare... it's a bit heavy... going from that to the Lemond is heaven...
Jeff
And this is why my butt is training everyday, I don't want to be one of those "old guys" getting wasted. I like wasting the young guys who can't quite understand why when they attack on a hill that if they are going to get it they damn well earned it!! :D
SipperPhoto
10-07-03, 06:10 PM
And this is why my butt is training everyday, I don't want to be one of those "old guys" getting wasted. I like wasting the young guys who can't quite understand why when they attack on a hill that if they are going to get it they damn well earned it!! :D
I hear ya... I'm 28 now... my goal is to keep the younger guys away from me forever ! It's always more fun to attack on a hill... look over... give them that Lance Armstrong look like "You wanna piece of me ??" and then keep on ridin' !! Boo-ya !
my goal is to never be the old guy :-)
of course there are a couple of guys in my club that are are easily twice my age, and can readily smoke me anytime they feel... so it all evens out :D
JEff
robertlees
10-07-03, 06:23 PM
Hi 'late'
I was interested in your '10 day ocean to ocean across Italy' - In April I rode the Italian Riviera from Nice to Pisa, then to Firenze and Bologna. What route are you intending to take ?
velocipedio
10-07-03, 06:50 PM
8.5 kg [about 18.5 lbs] with no bottles and no wedge pack. of course, it is a small frame [51 cm], so that probably has something to do with it...
Hi Robert,
I will prob go with Cicclisimo Classico. There is an episode of Bicycle Journal that followed this trip; and it just looked spectacular.
I used to waste the older guys on my 6 speed Centurion up until I got the Lemond... and they were on Trek 5900's.. hehe old guys with too much money, and not enough legs to make it worth it...
Hmmm... take a poll. Ask the old guys if they were having fun even while you screamed past them. If their answer was "yes" then what does it matter how much they spent on their bike?
So I took off the water bottles, pump and seat wedge and re-weighed. 20 lbs even. Now I know I must be a stud, and fast! Ohh wait, I guess I'm middle aged and a tad out of shape....hmmm maybe if I spend more $$ on a bike, the chicks will dig me....NAHH
ClevelandGuy
10-08-03, 09:31 PM
She is a Ti, without seat pack and water bottles its 18.5 lb; with me on it it's 158.5 lb, and I think the second weight is more important than the first. :D
princebaal
10-08-03, 09:43 PM
how the heck are you people weighing your bikes accurately?
BigFloppyLlama
10-08-03, 10:03 PM
She is a Ti, without seat pack and water bottles its 18.5 lb; with me on it it's 158.5 lb, and I think the second weight is more important than the first. :D
I'll agree for the sake of making me feel better about the weight of my bike (~24lbs loaded) and with me 154lbs. But, it's all about the engine :)
how the heck are you people weighing your bikes accurately?
I use a digital bathroom scale (that also tells me my body fat :(). I first weigh myself on the scale and then weigh myself with the bike. Subtract the former from the latter and I get the weight of the bike. My bike weighs 20lbs. with cages, CO2 inflator and saddlepack installed and 17lbs. without.
scott L R
10-09-03, 04:26 AM
Big R, what do you think of the kona? I have a 2000 fire mountian, I am currently looking for a road bike, tell me your opinion poease. Thanks, Scott.
velocipedio
10-09-03, 05:11 AM
your lbs probably has a scale that they use to weigh bikes.
roadwarrior
10-09-03, 05:21 AM
I used to waste the older guys on my 6 speed Centurion up until I got the Lemond... and they were on Trek 5900's.. hehe old guys with too much money, and not enough legs to make it worth it... I wanna say the Centurion weighs in around 25 lbs. bare... it's a bit heavy... going from that to the Lemond is heaven...
Jeff
Curious how you knew that it was a 5900 if you were going that fast? Slow enough, I guess to be able to see whether it had Dura Ace or Ultegra, eh?? And to be able to tell the difference between OCLV 120 vs. 110. I sell them and can't tell the difference without looking at the tiny logo on the frame.
Do you race? What category? How many wins?
I do enjoy the young guys riding a half mile at 30 MPH, then I catch them a few minutes later looking like they just crossed the Sahara...they ride 20 miles, I'm fininshing 60 miles at a 23 MPH leisurely average. Solo. At 49 years of age. But then, I was CAT II when I raced.
Enjoy the bike.
shokhead
10-09-03, 07:58 AM
Curious how you knew that it was a 5900 if you were going that fast? Slow enough, I guess to be able to see whether it had Dura Ace or Ultegra, eh?? And to be able to tell the difference between OCLV 120 vs. 110. I sell them and can't tell the difference without looking at the tiny logo on the frame.
Do you race? What category? How many wins?
I do enjoy the young guys riding a half mile at 30 MPH, then I catch them a few minutes later looking like they just crossed the Sahara...they ride 20 miles, I'm fininshing 60 miles at a 23 MPH leisurely average. Solo. At 49 years of age. But then, I was CAT II when I raced.
Enjoy the bike.
Cadence of 75?
SipperPhoto
10-09-03, 10:12 AM
Curious how you knew that it was a 5900 if you were going that fast? Slow enough, I guess to be able to see whether it had Dura Ace or Ultegra, eh?? And to be able to tell the difference between OCLV 120 vs. 110. I sell them and can't tell the difference without looking at the tiny logo on the frame.
Do you race? What category? How many wins?
I do enjoy the young guys riding a half mile at 30 MPH, then I catch them a few minutes later looking like they just crossed the Sahara...they ride 20 miles, I'm fininshing 60 miles at a 23 MPH leisurely average. Solo. At 49 years of age. But then, I was CAT II when I raced.
Enjoy the bike.
hmm a bit of negativity here huh ? The model number isn;t important on a bike.. it is just that a lot of people (maybe like 60-70%) in my area ride Trek's and a lot of people spend a lot on their bike... in my opinion, they get bikes that are way above their level... now if you have the money, get whatever bike you want... at least in my neck of the woods... a lot of it is show...
I admit it.. I'm not the fastest guy out there... but I am faster than some... even on my older heavier bike I was faster... You do ride pretty fast... faster than me, as do a lot of guys in my club who are around your age... I would say the fastest guy on a regular basis in at least you age, if not older...
that's what I wanna be... the fastest older guy in the group
JEff
roadwarrior
10-09-03, 12:23 PM
hmm a bit of negativity here huh ? The model number isn;t important on a bike.. it is just that a lot of people (maybe like 60-70%) in my area ride Trek's and a lot of people spend a lot on their bike... in my opinion, they get bikes that are way above their level... now if you have the money, get whatever bike you want... at least in my neck of the woods... a lot of it is show...
I admit it.. I'm not the fastest guy out there... but I am faster than some... even on my older heavier bike I was faster... You do ride pretty fast... faster than me, as do a lot of guys in my club who are around your age... I would say the fastest guy on a regular basis in at least you age, if not older...
that's what I wanna be... the fastest older guy in the group
JEff
Cool...
I also sell Serottas. Best bike made, in my opinion. About two grand to the mid six thousand range. These folks are not really fast (18-19 MPH average). But many I know who ride them are doing 300+ miles per week. Great comfortable custom built bike. Very expensive. But they are looking for maximum comfort.
Be fast... :D
roadwarrior
10-09-03, 12:25 PM
Cadence of 75?
Nope..I like the other approach...80-85
SipperPhoto
10-09-03, 01:06 PM
Cool...
I also sell Serottas. Best bike made, in my opinion. About two grand to the mid six thousand range. These folks are not really fast (18-19 MPH average). But many I know who ride them are doing 300+ miles per week. Great comfortable custom built bike. Very expensive. But they are looking for maximum comfort.
Be fast... :D
Hmm those Serotta's are good looking bikes... I think one of the couples in my club ride a Serotta Tandem, and love it.. I could be wrong.. but I'm pretty sure it is a Serotta... they routinely do double and triple centuries on it, and love it...
Fast is good :D
Jeff
Hmm those Serotta's are good looking bikes... I think one of the couples in my club ride a Serotta Tandem, and love it.. I could be wrong.. but I'm pretty sure it is a Serotta... they routinely do double and triple centuries on it, and love it...
I didn't know Serotta made tandems. Are you sure it's not a Santana?
mjolnir2k
10-10-03, 01:28 PM
16.5lbs as listed in sig.
58 cm
Was hoping to get it under 16 lbs, but the cost per gram at this stage is too high to keep being a weight weenie. Guess I'll just have to start losing some "Grams" off of my butt!!!
mikemets5
10-10-03, 01:35 PM
Calfee Luna Pro
Campy Chorus
2 Arundel bottle cages
"heavy wheels" Velocity aerohead w/ Kevlar belted tires
Alliante saddle
Echo computer
18 lbs 11 oz
a serotta tandem? I haven't seen one, but I would like one.
I had the pleasure of riding a Cr-Mo Serotta, not sure of the model, last week. I loved the ride.. And it was just my size.. ;)
BTW my roadbike weighs about 8.4-8.5kg ~ 18.5lbs-18.7lbs. It has a Cr-Mo frame, carbon fork w/ 105s.
But w/ the pump, tools, patch kit, spare tube, waterbottle, bottle cage, bag, etc. it goes up to 20-21lbs. :(
oxologic
10-11-03, 05:20 AM
If any guys remember the bike I talked about. It was over 20kg, over 40lbs. A steel hardtail, super cool.
Now my bike is a 2200. No!! not 2200 kilograms, I do hope it's 2200 grams though. haha, a 2kg bike, how good can that get?? Anyway, yes it is sub 8 kg or sub 18 pounds, I just love it. It's a real light bike, for it's price it's a huge bargain for such a light bike. If i do upgrade the bike to Shimano Dura-ace components, I can shave a lot more off. Anyway, now it is a Ultegra-105 mix, mainly Ultegra. A new wheelset and probably much more off. A new seatpost, saddle, handlebars, great man!! It will be much lighter. I don't use any bottle cages anymore, I use a Camelbak!! It is the best, huge storage capacity for water and plently of space for energy bars and my mobile : THE CAMELBAK ROCKET.
Serotta did build tandems, but not very many.
There's one on the Serotta Forum's gallery, really
nice looking bike.
About as common as Colnago tandems (and they do exist).
Marty
Grampy™
10-11-03, 06:30 PM
I've never weighed mine but Airborne's website says it weighs about 20 lbs. (Carpe Diem, Cyclocross) As I ride it with saddlebag and peddals probably 22 -30 depending on how I'm loaded. (I do have a rear Rack I can put on during some light creditcard touring)
trmcgeehan
10-12-03, 04:31 AM
My 1985 Ross weighs 32 pounds, ready to roll. Not too fast up the hills, but it goes like a rocket on the way down. I figure I'nm getting a better workout than the guys with bikes 12 pounds lighter.
Lunigma
06-04-05, 04:23 AM
my old univega comes in at 24 pounds. it has some old 27s aluminum wheels. id like to replace these with a new lighter wheel set, i can't find any good tires for 27s and the cassette is a brick! how much lighter could my bike get with a wheel upgrade?
http://sheldonbrown.com/harris/wheels.html
Hi,
Harris carries a lot of older parts. I don't reccomend spending
a ton on an old bike. My favorite 27 inch tire is the Conti Top Touring 2000, but it's fairly heavy.
If you already have Alu wheels, you won't save much weight.
Tryth be told, you're thinking of replacing your old friend, you just haven't admitted it yet.
My Bianchi weighs in at about 23lbs. My Allez came in a little lighter ~21lbs.
STEVO820
06-04-05, 07:50 AM
this thread was dead for the last year haha
I'm just curious about how heavy road bikes tend to run...
I weighed mine on bathroom scale and got 23.5 lbs w/pump, two empty water bottles and my saddle bag w/tools.
I think that's pretty good, but don't have any basis of comparison.
Big R
2000 Kona Kapu w/ Ultegra
25 with water. well the bike is about 22.
RD Olivaw
06-04-05, 12:34 PM
I had the LBS wiegh my Trek 1500, with only the bottle cage, the day I bought it. It came in at around 21 lbs.
My bike stripped (i.e. race ready) with the carbones tips the scales at 18.92 pounds (that is a 63 cm bike). With the wedge pack, pump it weighs between 21 - 21.5 pounds depending on ride length... with water around 24 pounds I think...
The you have the guy at the LBS... xsmall TCR advanced... 14.2 pounds race ready :eek:
Bike weights means nothing though... it is your weight and the motor that makes the difference.
elementary
06-04-05, 03:13 PM
so does anyone know how the rider weight to bike weight thing works? if i weigh 70kg on a 20kg bike, would that be comparable to to an 83 kg guy on a 7kg bike? The distribution of mass is obviously different, but i guess for climbing you,re still hauling the same weight up the hill...
on the other hand, in the first case, the centre of mass would be lower (assuming same geometry etc.), which would make for better handling (but perhaps no difference in work required??) i dunno
it's early sunday morning here. i havnt really thought this through
Pjmsj21
06-04-05, 03:36 PM
I have read that a general guideline is that the bike should weigh approximately 12% of the rider's weight. Obviously this is a guideline and like most guidelines may be inappropriate in alot of circumstances. However there is logic to the argument that there is or should be a relationship between the two. When you get to smaller lighter riders keeping this percentage gets more challenging.
orguasch
06-04-05, 03:41 PM
my bike weight at18 lbs, haven't weight it since I change to Mavic Ksyrium
Oh, you know...Somewhere around 30 lbs...
Us older guys may have more money than sense but we need all the help we can get. I'm 63 riding a Merckx MXM and can keep up with more than half of the guys I cycle with. That said, the engine just cannot keep up with the young turks.
cryogenic
06-04-05, 05:35 PM
wow... talk about back from the dead... this sucker was a year and a half old. I wonder if the poster realized that he was dredging up such an old thread? :p
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