Fixed Gear Freestyle - a strange idea for fgfs.

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could you use the spacers below the bottom headset to make up for the 650 wheel? and could you go bmx and route the brake cable down through the headtube so it doesn't get tangled?
abeyance
02-17-08, 11:41 AM
wow. I wish Dutret was here.
I do admit I like the brake cable idea though
+1 on dutret.
you could do the front cable routing thing, but you need to find a stem that it will work on, or a hollow stem bolt that's long enough.
could you use the spacers below the bottom headset to make up for the 650 wheel? and could you go bmx and route the brake cable down through the headtube so it doesn't get tangled?
why are you running a 650 wheel?
could you use the spacers below the bottom headset to make up for the 650 wheel? and could you go bmx and route the brake cable down through the headtube so it doesn't get tangled?
why are you running a 650 wheel?
the spacers below the headset are going to create a flex point, and a spongy feeling. thats bad. might also just snap off. thats unlikly but impossible. not really a place i want to create extra stress.
oh, i'm not. i don't even do freestyle stuff. i was just thinking that if you wanted to do barspins, etc. and not worry about compromising the headtube angle, you could use spacers, yes?
rudetay
02-17-08, 12:02 PM
and could you go bmx and route the brake cable down through the headtube so it doesn't get tangled?
The star nut would be the issue here, you'd have to file out a large enough hole in it or something, not totally unreasonable though. The brake cable looping back up to the brake might get in the way of spinning too. If you used the spacer idea the brake might be low enough not to hit, but the cable still might.
Seems easy enough to just take the brake off when doing tricks anyway though. That brake lever on the bars would get annoying.
yonderboy
02-17-08, 12:08 PM
you could do the front cable routing thing, but you need to find a stem that it will work on, or a hollow stem bolt that's long enough.
Finding a hollow stem bolt isn't hard. BMX quill stems have been around for a long time.
FSA makes a starnut/topcap that you can route a cable through. There are also several compression-type top caps that are hollow for cable routing.
I would actually prefer a threadless setup for front brake routing. My old setup was a PitA to keep running. I don't know how many quill wedges I broke.
Seems easy enough to just take the brake off when doing tricks anyway though. That brake lever on the bars would get annoying.
The rear-brake trick is to use enough cable to get at least one barspin. It also nets you style, because you have to reverse the spin to untangle your cable during a line.
wild style
02-17-08, 12:09 PM
Somebody should run a gyro instead.
NeilMonday
02-17-08, 12:13 PM
The star nut would be the issue here, you'd have to file out a large enough hole in it or something, not totally unreasonable though. The brake cable looping back up to the brake might get in the way of spinning too. If you used the spacer idea the brake might be low enough not to hit, but the cable still might.
Seems easy enough to just take the brake off when doing tricks anyway though. That brake lever on the bars would get annoying.
In a gyro headset they use a hollow bolt that threads into the star nut. the front brake cable passes through that hollow part bypassing the star nut. Right?
edit: ah yes i see
i saw this at the alley cat i was at this weekend, you could just be like this guy
http://stupidhurts.org/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/IMG_0430.jpg
Cynikal
02-17-08, 12:39 PM
You really don't need a starnut. Just for the preload. Once that is set pull it out. Sheldon had an article on this.
nayr497
02-17-08, 01:09 PM
I really hope I never find myself "wanting" to do barspins. Maybe it is because I've never been into BMX or freestyle. Thankfully I've never sat up in bed in the middle of the night and thought, "Jesus christ, I need a smaller front wheel so I can do barspins!"
I would be more worried about a snapped fork than the logistics of the cable routing.
Edit: and the lower race would not be in contact with the bearings.
freeskihp
02-17-08, 03:29 PM
potts mod to a hydro disc brake on a 650, how rad would that be
hockeyteeth
02-17-08, 03:42 PM
Sometimes mountain bikers put spacers below the crown race to get down tube clearance for a long travel-fork. Or you could get a headset with a tall lower cup. Both of these would give you extra down tube clearance, but they would slacken your head tube angle.
but you need to find a stem that it will work on
i've seen stems on older hybrids (lol) that have holes for running a brake cable through the steertube.
^^well, it's supposed to slacken it because the headtube angle is compromised with a 650 wheel (as opposed to the usual 700).
i don't know why i'm bothering with this, though. i don't do tricks.
wroomwroomoops
02-18-08, 12:48 AM
could you use the spacers below the bottom headset to make up for the 650 wheel? and could you go bmx and route the brake cable down through the headtube so it doesn't get tangled?
Yes to the second question: use a BMX hollow bolt. It's been done already (on a FG bike, even).
i saw this at the alley cat i was at this weekend, you could just be like this guy
What the heck is going on with that fork?????
ThunderChunky
02-18-08, 01:35 AM
What the heck is going on with that fork?????
i'm going to go wayyy out on a limb and say that it's bent?
dude was drunk, hit something
TimArchy
02-18-08, 07:38 AM
The problem with spacing out the bottom of the steer tube would really be the bearing race. You'd have to find some way to mount it to the top of the spacers. You could get a framebuilder to extend the headtube.
And I think the brake cable issue would be complicated by the little clearence between the fork and the tire. It needs a good amount of space to make a smooth curve.
I think these issues were solved by the BMW Gangster, and that bike is hideous. Luckily a few framebuilders are making cutouts for the front wheel so people can do barspins with normal geometry.
wroomwroomoops
02-18-08, 01:47 PM
i'm going to go wayyy out on a limb and say that it's bent?
I've never seen a unicrown fork that bent out of shape. Looks totally cool!
BRANDUNE
02-18-08, 02:25 PM
It almost looks like you could just turn that bent fork around and it wouldn't be so bad
carleton
07-09-12, 10:37 PM
bump
Why?
Edit: Nevermind, I see. Instead of zombie threads, why not try to get a separate sub forum? It's not like it would clutter the sub forum menu...
BoozyMcliverRot
07-10-12, 12:07 AM
oh, i'm not. i don't even do freestyle stuff. i was just thinking that if you wanted to do barspins, etc. and not worry about compromising the headtube angle, you could use spacers, yes?
spacers will change head tube angle,if they are botttom spcers.
BoozyMcliverRot
07-10-12, 12:10 AM
Damn you Carlton,didnt know it was zombie.
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Damn you Carlton,didnt know it was zombie.
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It's not, FGFS is fresh!
carleton
07-11-12, 10:50 AM
Damn you Carlton,didnt know it was zombie.
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I am here to serve.
http://media.giantbomb.com/uploads/0/1379/179638-tf2_medic_thumb.jpg
Jaytron
07-11-12, 06:26 PM
What the hell is going on, I leave for a few days and everything is FGFSDSFDS
EpicSchwinn
07-17-12, 07:37 PM
What the hell is going on, I leave for a few days and everything is FGFSDSFDS
http://i2.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/000/224/original.jpg
But seriously, I was hoping there would be a little more action on here than old bumped threads. I wanna look through a "post your ssfgfs bieks" thread for some inspiration but there isn't one.
If I was made of money I would totally build one.
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