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Matadon
 
While biking home a few weeks ago (from work, testing to see how nasty the commute was (18 miles, and mostly flat, not bad at all)). I stopped by a Del Taco on the way back to grab a bite, and got so much crap from the manager that I was about ready to introduce him to the Bike Pump of Death (I think he would have tried grabbing my bike and dealing with things himself had I not been between him and it).











Here's a copy of the complaint letter, for your viewing pleaure:











I am a cyclist. Although I own and operate a motor vehicle, I choose to use my bicycle for local travel (anything within fifteen miles of my house), as it is convenient, environmentally friendly, inexpensive, and fun.











On Saturday, October 6th, I was riding myb bicycle back from my office, after a trial-ride to test the conditions for a bicycle commute. I stopped by a Del Taco restaurant to pick up lunch, as the food is nominally of good quality and reasonably priced. The restaurant I stopped at, located at 7398 Greenback Lane in Citrus Heights, does not provide any type of bicycle parking facilities, indoor or outdoor, so I brought my bicycle inside with me.











After placing my order, I leaned my bicycle against a wall to keep it out of the way of other patrons (although the restaurant was empty when I entered), and waited for my food. Shortly thereafter, the manager (who had watched me place my order) informed me that I would have to move my bicycle outside, as they were not allowed in the restaurant -- why he waited until *after* placing my order is, to me, a mystery.











I told him that there were no bicycle racks, or any other suitable facilities for parking a bicycle; and that I would not be leaving an expensive bicycle, which can be easily stolen, outside, unattended. He persisted,

telling me to move my bicycle outside; at which point I informed him that I would happily move the bicycle after my order was complete, and not before.











At this point, he gave me an irritated look and walked into the back of the restaurant; a minute or so later, a different manager asked me to move my bicycle, and a discourse similar to the one with the previous manager ensued.











Although I received my order (which was properly made), I am wholly dissatisfied with the discriminatory treatment offered by the store's management; I was not providing a barrier to other patrons or being otherwise disruptive, and nowhere (visible to me) was a prohibition against bringing


bicycles into the restaurant posted; although a notice forbidding bicycles in the drive-thru was fairly promenant. Even though the county of Sacramento offers financial incentives to install bicycle racks, none were provided, and as such I had no choice but to take my bicycle into the restaurant with me.











In short: Despite the fact that this restaurant is in an ideal location to stop for food on my daily commute to work, I will likely never return because of the shoddy treatment afforded to my because I simply had a bicycle.


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Chris L
 
Here is what I want every cyclist within a 50km radius of Del Taco to do tomorrow afternoon:

Everyone is to ride their bike to Del Taco, take their bike inside the restaurant and immediately order the most expensive and complex thing on the menu. As soon as one of you gets any crap at all about your bike being there, I want you all to turn around and walk straight out without paying a cent.

If this discrimination had been based on race, gender or religion, there would be a massive public outcry about this. It's amazing that so many members of our species are still stuck in 1854 in the 21st century.


D*Alex
 
We had 4 or 5 Del Taco "resataurants" (if you can call them that)around here. I wouldn't go as far as you did in calling their food edible, but they were cheap.
The service was usually snarky, at best, and they all went bust about 2 years ago.


John E
 
I am just as bothered by the prohibition against bicycles in the drive-through lane as I am by the treatment you received inside.

Almost 20 years ago, my wife and I walked up to the drive-through window at a local bank, because we urgently needed to make a deposit, and the drive-through window opened earlier and closed later than the lobby. (ATMs were just starting to appear, and most banks still kept "bankers' hours" of 10 to 3.) After the teller told us to come back 45 minutes later when the branch opened, I stubbornly stood my ground and finally got her to accept the deposit, although she made a point of saying that she would not officially post it until opening time. I wrote a tactfully-worded nastigram to the bank's upper management, pointing out that we could bank from 9 to 4 if we drove to the bank and left the engine running while being serviced (so to speak), but only from 10 to 3 if we left the car at home to save fuel, improve air quality, and get a little exercise. I never received a response, and that particular bank is no longer in business.

Now the happy Hollywood ending: My local Bank of America branch is located just inside the door of an Albertson's supermarket. I bring the bike inside with me, park it in the corner by the AutoTrader section of the newsstand (seems appropriate), and visit an ATM (usually) or teller (rarely), all without any hassle.


D*Alex
 
Many years ago, Citibank lost my business for just such a situation. The drive-up teller stayed open longer than the lobby. I was on my bike (was a high school student, didn't have wheels, was in school during banker's hours, and the bank had no saturday hours or ATM), and I needed to make a deposit/cash of my paycheck. She wouldn't let me use the drive-thru. Next day, I took an extended lunch break, withdrew all my money, and told them why. I took my money to the local savings and loan, which had better hours (even if the building wasn't as nice).


fubar5
 
Its a good thing you wrote that letter, I think companies get away with a lot of stuff because they know no one will complain.


Chris L
 
Originally posted by fubar5
Its a good thing you wrote that letter, I think companies get away with a lot of stuff because they know no one will complain.

They also get away with a lot of stuff because many people are too stupid to take their money elsewhere. That is the biggest way to get at them.


Rich
 
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Matadon
[B]While biking home a few weeks ago (from work, testing to see how nasty the commute was (18 miles, and mostly flat, not bad at all)). I stopped by a Del Taco on the way back to grab a bite, and got so much crap from the manager that I was about ready to introduce him to the Bike Pump of Death (I think he would have tried grabbing my bike and dealing with things himself had I not been between him and it).

Good for you Matadon....we don't get those resturants in the UK, but I think Fubar's right when they think people won't complain...

:beer:

Rich


D*Alex
 
If you write it in Spanish, maybe it will have more impact? I could give you a few choice obsceneties I learned in El Paso-they may help.


Matadon
 
Originally posted by D*Alex
If you write it in Spanish, maybe it will have more impact? I could give you a few choice obsceneties I learned in El Paso-they may help.

I live in California. Learning to curse in Spanish is taught in first grade. :D

Anyway, here's the followup: I at least got a message back thanking me for my concerns, and a note that store number XXX would be contacted.

Sadly, the informed consumer seems to be dying out, and businesses know this; I've been sending out letters like this left-and-right for the past few weeks, and it's amazing what's been getting done.


LittleBigMan
 
Originally posted by John E
I am just as bothered by the prohibition against bicycles in the drive-through lane as I am by the treatment you received inside.

...My local Bank of America branch is located just inside the door of an Albertson's supermarket. I bring the bike inside with me, park it in the corner by the AutoTrader section of the newsstand (seems appropriate), and visit an ATM (usually) or teller (rarely), all without any hassle.
Today, I stopped in at an Ingles supermarket. Once inside, I stopped to notice an interesting 12 speed Fuji parked against the wall. After enjoying a nice warm feeling, I headed towards the other side where the other front door was, and voila, a Marin mtb.

Sick 'em, boys! (I think they want the business. Snooty businesses that think they don't need your money can go sit on a stool of do-nothing, for all I care.)


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