Great Lakes - Dairyland Dare Registration Open 3/1

I'm sure many of you got the email but just in case- Registration for the DLD will be open 3/1/08 at 10:00am. It looks like they are going with yet another online registration site (www.zapevent.com (http://www.zapevent.com)). This one tends not to fill up as fast as the Horribly Hilly, but don't miss it!

*Edit*- forgot to post that the ride date is 8/16/08.

Gah! I am heartbroken. I love this ride and have had the course crack me two years in a row. I was looking forward to finishing the whole 200k course this year, but will be out of town that weekend.

:(

^^^^ that blows. i love seeing you crack. it will be missed.

later.

I'm sure many of you got the email but just in case- Registration for the DLD will be open 3/1/08 at 10:00am. It looks like they are going with yet another online registration site (www.zapevent.com (http://www.zapevent.com)). This one tends not to fill up as fast as the Horribly Hilly, but don't miss it!

*Edit*- forgot to post that the ride date is 8/16/08.



Is the event listed on zapevent.com yet? I looked for it and could not find it.
Never have ridden this one before, where can I get some more info?

Is the event listed on zapevent.com yet? I looked for it and could not find it.
Never have ridden this one before, where can I get some more info?

Check out www.dairylanddare.com for official info.

Click here for some ride reports from the 2007 event (http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=331765). It's a great ride.

I'm going to shoot for the 200k. The profile sheet looks impressive. I've never done it before and my only experience was the Hilly Hundred in Bloomington.
How do the hills compary to the Hilly Hundred?

Check out www.dairylanddare.com for official info.

Click here for some ride reports from the 2007 event (http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=331765). It's a great ride.

Looks like a good ride, thanks for the info!

I'm going to shoot for the 200k. The profile sheet looks impressive. I've never done it before and my only experience was the Hilly Hundred in Bloomington.
How do the hills compary to the Hilly Hundred?

Personally I don't think there is any comparison. The Hilly Hundred is much easier. Granted that's looking back on it having last ridden the Hilly in 1993.

I remember hitting hard hills during the hilly, but nothing that made me question the purpose of my existance like some of the hills in WI that this ride goes on.

DLD is roughly 15,000ft gain in 200k (124 miles) ~120 ft/mile average gain.

Hilly Hundred is ~3,100ft gain in 50 miles ~62 ft/mile.

Again, no comparison.

Personally I don't think there is any comparison. The Hilly Hundred is much easier. Granted that's looking back on it having last ridden the Hilly in 1993.

I remember hitting hard hills during the hilly, but nothing that made me question the purpose of my existance like some of the hills in WI that this ride goes on.

DLD is roughly 15,000ft gain in 200k (124 miles) ~120 ft/mile average gain.

Hilly Hundred is ~3,100ft gain in 50 miles ~62 ft/mile.

Again, no comparison.

Sweet. Thanks for the info and I will sign up for the 200k. Sounds like, uhmm.., fun. Yeah, fun!

Thomas

If you want a early (5/4/08) ride which traverses the same hills as the Dairyland Dare (it's basically the 100-200K of the DLD in reverse) you should consider the Quadrapedal - 33, 55, 85, or 100 mile options.

http://www.zapevent.com/ListActivities.aspx?eventid=139

Personally I don't think there is any comparison. The Hilly Hundred is much easier. Granted that's looking back on it having last ridden the Hilly in 1993.

I remember hitting hard hills during the hilly, but nothing that made me question the purpose of my existance like some of the hills in WI that this ride goes on.

DLD is roughly 15,000ft gain in 200k (124 miles) ~120 ft/mile average gain.

Hilly Hundred is ~3,100ft gain in 50 miles ~62 ft/mile.

Again, no comparison.


so what are YOU, or is that we?, doing at the DD 2008?

later.

so what are YOU, or is that we?, doing at the DD 2008?

later.

Not sure yet....I kind of want to see how the early season stuff goes.

I've got DD on my radar of rides I'd like to do, but if I'm going to drive all the way up there from SW Ohio, I'm attempting the whole enchilada. 2009 would be the earliest.

As for the difficulty compared to the Hilly Hundred, I've done both halves of the Hilly on the same day, riding the Sunday route solo. I was pretty fresh afterwards, but that's still a lot less climbing per mile. I consider that to be a pretty easy ride as 'hilly' rides go.

I've done challenge rides like Three State Three Mountain, Cherohala Challenge and the Highlander up in NY, and our more local Columbus Fall Challenge in SE Ohio. This year I'm doing Mountains of Misery and Six Gap Challenge (plus Brasstown). I know all the Six Gap climbs because I do a group trip down to Helen GA for Tour of GA and we spend 3-4 days riding all those climbs. That's a lot of climbing every year, but I'm not sure any of those compare to DD. Highlander might be the closest. 20ish climbs over 100 miles, some hitting 15-20% but none more than 2 miles long.

From what I see on the profiles, it is the constant repetition of lots of hills that gives DD such a reputation, as opposed to a handful of big climbs. My question is what is the typical (or range of) length and grade of climbs up there in SW Wisconsin?

They aren't long, but they just keep hitting you. "up-down, up-down"

I've never ridden there, but would venture to guess anyone who can ride the Gaps and Brasstown Bald in Georgia could handle the Dairyland Dare or the HHH.

Where's recursive? He did all 300k of the DLD two years ago. C'mon recursive, testify!

Where's dave342? The 200k route was part of his 10,000 miles last year (and now seems to have dropped away from the board). How was it Dave? Let them know about climbing Roberts Road (twice) and about Shop Hill.

The climbs aren't miles long, but many are 10% or more. They sap the legs and there is not a lot of flatland to just chill out. On the 100k or 200k courses the last 10 miles after the final rest stop looks pretty easy on the map and is comparitively low grade, but the first half goes into a valley and then it's a long slow climb back toward Dodgeville.

Is it worth a trip up from SW Ohio? I'd say yes, but don't just come up for one ride. Stay a few days in the region to enjoy the riding closer to Madison get a chance to ride up Blue Mound. Make a vacation of it.

/travel agent schpiel.

this should pretty much explain it:
http://i31.tinypic.com/n4a1s5.jpg

this is from the 200k last year.

Seems to be climbs of 250-500 feet at anywhere from 3-7% average bottom to top. Doesn't tell me max grade, but 10+ was mentioned. So it appears Highlander is the closest thing I have done. That's still bigger and fewer climbs.

In my experience repetition is way more tiring and difficult. On a whim, last year I did the Knox County Challenge in central Ohio. I was doing a lot of other big centuries and wanted to keep my weekend streak alive. I thought, "Central Ohio? How hard could it be?" Ended up with roughly 6000 feet over 102 miles, but by the end I was suffering as much or more than any of the others.

So... I would be doing the "same thing", with two minor issues: double elevation gain per mile; darn near double the miles. That's one helluva ride!

I think this is something I should do (attempt) exactly once, to add to my list of conquered (or failed) rides, and then never return to the area again (regardless of outcome).

Seems like one would go through a set of shift cables every other month up there.

I've never ridden there, but would venture to guess anyone who can ride the Gaps and Brasstown Bald in Georgia could handle the Dairyland Dare or the HHH.

Where's recursive? He did all 300k of the DLD two years ago. C'mon recursive, testify!

Where's dave342? The 200k route was part of his 10,000 miles last year (and now seems to have dropped away from the board). How was it Dave? Let them know about climbing Roberts Road (twice) and about Shop Hill.
The climbs aren't miles long, but many are 10% or more. They sap the legs and there is not a lot of flatland to just chill out. On the 100k or 200k courses the last 10 miles after the final rest stop looks pretty easy on the map and is comparitively low grade, but the first half goes into a valley and then it's a long slow climb back toward Dodgeville.

Is it worth a trip up from SW Ohio? I'd say yes, but don't just come up for one ride. Stay a few days in the region to enjoy the riding closer to Madison get a chance to ride up Blue Mound. Make a vacation of it.

/travel agent schpiel.


Well for one thing it's not a race, which is good you can go at your own pace. I don't think that there is any climbs over a mile long. I did the 200k last year and it was hard. I have enough hills in my area to train on so I was ready. I rode with CyLowe97* last year and he did a great job considering he dosen't have any hills to train on. The weather last year also played a big part. Nice in the morning, storms wind and rain in the middle, and HOT at the end. I think he (CyLowe97*)could of finished the 200k if it wasn't for the bad weather. If you have any hills to train on you will be ok then.

And no I havn't dropped off the board. Just nothing going on except the gallons of sweat from the trainer which is nothing exciting to talk about.

I'm doin it. Last years DLD was too much fun to pass it up. Though I could do without the rain this time, thank you.

just registered for the 100k. stewart's original email said it wouldn't open until 10am today, but I woke up to an email saying that it was already open this morning.

depending on how i feel, i might ride the 200k course...

Just registered for the 300k.
Well aham23* are you doing the same? 14hrs 4min.
CyLowe97* you said you were going out of town for that weekend does that mean in Dodgeville!
Psimet2001* look out for dogs before this weekend.
Kenal0 and SmokinMiles dinner the night before?

CyLowe97* you said you were going out of town for that weekend does that mean in Dodgeville!

Is Atlanta near Dodgeville? :(

Actually, we'll be in Georgia for a wedding that weekend and I'm exploring options to ride some of the Gaps in northern Georgia that weekend. Current assessments and feedback tell me that this may be a fool's errand in the middle of August, but who better to go on such an errand?

Would you be up for a different ride out of Baraboo on July 12th? It's a century and potentially a real bargain at only $25 See the left link here: http://www.wildsideveloclub.com/

I'm in, see you there -

I just signed up for the 200k. I must say, this years jersey looks much better than last years.

I'm in for the 200k. I just signed up. Should be a good ride.

Also in for the 200K- those jerseys were hard to pass up, I may have to pick one up later!

I'm in for the 200K - I may attempt the 233K or maybe the 300K.. or not ride it at all. I've got a family conflict that week - my wife will be out of town from the 14-17th, so I've got to find someone to take the kids for the whole day.

Since they now have a 133K and a 233K option, I wonder if that loop will be at the start or the end of the ride like it was last year. IMHO, it was just evil that the 300K people had to use the finish line as a rest stop and head back out for another 2 hours. I've got a friend who wants that loop at the beginning, but I wonder if that would bunch up the riders too much at the first two rest stops. Any thoughts recursive (or anyone else here who's done the 300k?)

Since they now have a 133K and a 233K option, I wonder if that loop will be at the start or the end of the ride like it was last year. IMHO, it was just evil that the 300K people had to use the finish line as a rest stop and head back out for another 2 hours. I've got a friend who wants that loop at the beginning, but I wonder if that would bunch up the riders too much at the first two rest stops. Any thoughts recursive (or anyone else here who's done the 300k?)

They put that final rest stop for the 300k at the finish so they can make sure no one goes out too late onto the course. I'm not sure if they have a set cutoff time to do the loop, but I think that may be part of it.

As for the other distances, Check the course map. It's got places to do an extra loop here and there. In 2006, I didn't do the full base loop and ended up on the western loop through Clyde. It ended up being like 95 miles or so. In 2007, I did the 200k base loops, but then skipped the Clyde loop. It ended up being 104 miles, I think. There are a few opt-out points along the routes.

Personally I don't think there is any comparison. The Hilly Hundred is much easier. Granted that's looking back on it having last ridden the Hilly in 1993.

I remember hitting hard hills during the hilly, but nothing that made me question the purpose of my existance like some of the hills in WI that this ride goes on.

DLD is roughly 15,000ft gain in 200k (124 miles) ~120 ft/mile average gain.

Hilly Hundred is ~3,100ft gain in 50 miles ~62 ft/mile.

Again, no comparison.

According to the HHH web site, their 200K course has 10,700' of climbing. That's about 86 ft/mile.

The young woman (about 5'1" and early 20's) who works in my LBS completed 256K in the Dairyland Dare last year. She's vowed and determined to finish the 300K this year.

According to the HHH web site, their 200K course has 10,700' of climbing. That's about 86 ft/mile.

The young woman (about 5'1" and early 20's) who works in my LBS completed 256K in the Dairyland Dare last year. She's vowed and determined to finish the 300K this year.

the hilly hundreds and the HHH are two different rides. thus, the stated different ride stats. later.

the hilly hundreds and the HHH are two different rides. thus, the stated different ride stats. later.

+1....Hilly Hundred is the "original" ride that is run out of Blooington, IN. Consistantly "ranked" as one of the best rides in the country. Your data is probably from the Horrible Hilly Hundreds (HHH) website. We were refering to the Hilly Hundred ....check it out...-> http://www.hillyhundred.org

The hilly hundred is good fun and extremely well organized. Before you take your ride, you actually sit in a theater to watch a safety film on cycling :)
And even if you're not such a strong rider you can still enjoy the ride, since it's only 50 miles a day stretched over two days. So the suffering is not as big as hitting the hills for 130 miles in one day.

Gotcha.

I thought they were comparing the two Wisconsin rides, one of which being the Horribly Hilly Hundreds. Missed the bit about the Hilly Hundred being an Indiana ride.

The Hilly Hundred does look like fun. I live close to the courses for the HHH and Dairyland Dare and don't even think about riding in them. Way too difficult for me.

The Hilly Hundred does look like fun. I live close to the courses for the HHH and Dairyland Dare and don't even think about riding in them. Way too difficult for me.

Logic and reason have nothing to do with cycling....I say ride them...

I want to attempt the 200K:eek: I am doing the HHH, but the 100K. Did the HHH 100K last year.

The 200K sounds crazy... but it's in August... more training by then, but I should look at the time limit before I sign up:eek:

The Hilly Hundred does look like fun. I live close to the courses for the HHH and Dairyland Dare and don't even think about riding in them. Way too difficult for me.

that's crazy!! go out and ride it, you only live once!! What's the worst that could happen, you don't finish?, so what... it's a blast... :p

Logic and reason have nothing to do with cycling....I say ride them...

and i say, 300k at the DD for you :p !

later.

and i say, 300k at the DD for you :p !

Are you signed up to do 300k? Go for it, man. You know you can do it. Plus, you can just 'draft' off of Dave the whole time.

I might sign up for this. The only competing event I know of at the moment is the Downer's Grove criterium (http://www.dgcycling.com/).

So recursive you want to go back and race with the 4's again (1:30 PM Stonyfield Farms USCF Men Cat. 3/4 $750 30 Mins.+ 1 lap $25 100)? You know what the 4's like to do Crash Crash Crash. Would you like to spend ALL riding your bike doing the DD, instead crashing. We (aham23* and I) need somebody who knows the route so we dont get lost.

So recursive you want to go back and race with the 4's again (1:30 PM Stonyfield Farms USCF Men Cat. 3/4 $750 30 Mins.+ 1 lap $25 100)? You know what the 4's like to do Crash Crash Crash. Would you like to spend ALL riding your bike doing the DD, instead crashing. We (aham23* and I) need somebody who knows the route so we dont get lost.

FYI, that's the 2007 schedule. I can't find the schedule for 2008. I did also find a Mauston WI RR on August 16. ( http://wisport.org/Tentative2008.htm )

Are you signed up to do 300k? Go for it, man. You know you can do it. Plus, you can just 'draft' off of Dave the whole time.

me, set such a lofty goal? nah. ;)

later.

that's crazy!! go out and ride it, you only live once!! What's the worst that could happen, you don't finish?, so what... it's a blast... :p

Don't finish???

Heck, if I did 10 miles on that course I'd be thrilled. I can't handle those hills.

And if I want to try to do 10 miles on that course, I could attempt it pretty much any time I wanted.

They put that final rest stop for the 300k at the finish so they can make sure no one goes out too late onto the course. I'm not sure if they have a set cutoff time to do the loop, but I think that may be part of it.

As for the other distances, Check the course map. It's got places to do an extra loop here and there. In 2006, I didn't do the full base loop and ended up on the western loop through Clyde. It ended up being like 95 miles or so. In 2007, I did the 200k base loops, but then skipped the Clyde loop. It ended up being 104 miles, I think. There are a few opt-out points along the routes.

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Here's the poop on the 133 and 233 and 300K routes. They are the 100K, 200K, and 266K routes as they were last year with an additional loop starting and finishing at Harris park. I haven't updated the maps or cue sheets yet, but you should be able to put it together from last year's maps. We will have a full rest stop at Harris Park for those who want to take a breather and then head out for another 33K.

There is also a 66K untimed option to let beginners get in the action. This route will follow the standard outbound route from Harris Park to the 1st stop at Barneveld. It will then cross under 18/151 and return to Harris Park on less hilly backroads south of the highway. I plan to start these riders around 8:00 AM so they shouldn't endanger the more serious cyclists doing the timed routes.

What else? Furthermore Beer at the finish!

K...just got an e-mail from sschilli to update....early registration ends on the 30th of this month. Prices go up by $10 per route option.

Thinking I might be in for the 200K at this point. Just can't seem to pull the trigger....

i need to do this ride, but i need a car pooling buddy.

you go. i go. you go. i go.

i still need to pull that trigger.

later.

You know you feel lucky, punks.

Pull.

The.

Trigger.

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yo Cy, where did you stay when you did this ride last year. i may drag the wife and kid up there if my other little buddy doesnt sign up. i mean, i am thinking i will need someone to drive my tired butt home.

later.

Unleash the hounds.