"The 33"-Road Bike Racing - An observation

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bdcheung
03-04-08, 02:19 PM
During training camp we did a couple mountain passes. The one I want to discuss was a fairly consistent 6-8% with some 10+% sections thrown in. This climb came early in the ride and I wanted to pace myself and not blow all my energy before the final climb of the day. I taped over the power display on my Ergomo, and went on PE alone.

Climbing, I maintained a pace that felt labored but not extreme. My breathing was controlled, I probably could have talked (a few words at a time) to a teammate had one been with me. I spent some time climbing out of the saddle, but most of the climb was done seated. When I downloaded the data, I noticed the entire climb was done at threshold. Ok, cool, now I know what FTP feels like.

Here's my question: If I wanted to climb above FTP, it would have taken significant concentration. Climbing at FTP was basically a "turn-my-brain-off-and-pedal" kind of deal. Have others noticed the same? That it takes a lot of concentration to maintain power above threshold for a time?


botto
03-04-08, 02:23 PM
yes.

ldesfor1@ithaca
03-04-08, 02:36 PM
yes.

ya


MrCrassic
03-04-08, 02:37 PM
Definitely.

smoke
03-04-08, 02:39 PM
yup

jrennie
03-04-08, 02:59 PM
I'll have to be the different one.

In a race or hard training/group ride it is when I am not thinking that I go above. I have to focus to keep it at ftp and know if I want to go the distance I need to ratchet it down a little.

Duke of Kent
03-04-08, 03:12 PM
I'll tell you when I do a climb of 8-12 miles in length. Kinda hard to do that on the flats and rolling plains of central IL.

As it stands, never done anything more than a mile.

NoRacer
03-04-08, 03:14 PM
yes

botto
03-04-08, 03:18 PM
I'll tell you when I do a climb of 8-12 miles in length. Kinda hard to do that on the flats and rolling plains of central IL.

As it stands, never done anything more than a mile.

neophyte.

waterrockets
03-04-08, 03:22 PM
Yep here too. I did an 8-mile TT today, and I really do have to pay attention to maintain that 10W over FTP.

Duke of Kent
03-04-08, 03:23 PM
neophyte.

You have no idea how miserable I am living in the midwest. Sub-140, watts aplenty. Crits as far as the eye can see.

botto
03-04-08, 03:27 PM
You have no idea how miserable I am living in the midwest. Sub-140, watts aplenty. Crits as far as the eye can see.

thank god.

Second Mouse
03-04-08, 03:40 PM
thank god.

This from the guy in Memphis, swilling 24 oz. cans of Pabst.

botto
03-04-08, 03:42 PM
This from the guy in Memphis, swilling 24 oz. cans of Pabst.

it's temporary. :D

El Diablo Rojo
03-04-08, 03:46 PM
When I turn my mind toward anything but riding is when I can climb at a rate above FTP for any distance. If I concentrate on a song or really just day dream I don't feel the pain. If I concentrate on my effort I tend to run at or below FTP. I had a really fast Cat 1 guy once tell me 'the pain is all in your head' once you believe that you can achieve more.

botto
03-04-08, 03:58 PM
When I turn my mind toward anything but riding is when I can climb at a rate above FTP for any distance. If I concentrate on a song or really just day dream I don't feel the pain. If I concentrate on my effort I tend to run at or below FTP. I had a really fast Cat 1 guy once tell me 'the pain is all in your head' once you believe that you can achieve more.

what a silly idea. ;)

Snuffleupagus
03-04-08, 03:58 PM
You have no idea how miserable I am living in the midwest. Sub-140, watts aplenty. Crits as far as the eye can see.

Move and quit b!tching :D

El Diablo Rojo
03-04-08, 04:05 PM
what a silly idea. ;)

Then its right up your alley ;)

ZeCanon
03-04-08, 04:11 PM
You have no idea how miserable I am living in the midwest. Sub-140, watts aplenty. Crits as far as the eye can see.

I'm looking for someone to sub-let in my house in Fort Collins, CO for the month of July. Interested? I'm about 15 minutes from a 14 mile climb. :) I'm going to be back east. I'll cut you a deal - $250.

Edonis13
03-04-08, 04:49 PM
I'm looking for someone to sub-let in my house in Fort Collins, CO for the month of July. Interested? I'm about 15 minutes from a 14 mile climb. :) I'm going to be back east. I'll cut you a deal - $250.

:eek:

Bob Dopolina
03-04-08, 04:53 PM
When I turn my mind toward anything but riding is when I can climb at a rate above FTP for any distance. If I concentrate on a song or really just day dream I don't feel the pain. If I concentrate on my effort I tend to run at or below FTP. I had a really fast Cat 1 guy once tell me 'the pain is all in your head' once you believe that you can achieve more.


Pain is just an opinion. My mantra.

Racer Ex
03-04-08, 05:23 PM
Above FTP, my brain goes off. Some people would say that's a 24/7 thing.

bdcheung
03-04-08, 07:12 PM
guess it's subjective

Greg180
03-04-08, 07:32 PM
Pain is inevitable...suffering is optional

geneman
03-04-08, 08:33 PM
"During the race, what goes round in the rider's mind is a monolithic ball bearing, so smooth, so uniform, that you can't even see it spin. Its almost perfect lack of surface structure ensures that it strikes nothing that might end up in the white circulation of thought. Almost nothing, that is - sometimes a microscopic flaw still manages to strike a cord."

ZeCanon
03-05-08, 11:40 AM
:eek:

I'm serious :) I wont' want to pay rent for a month I won't even be there.