The only decision I have to make is wether or not to get the map pack. I have Topo 4 for the state of Michigan. Do I need the map pack or will the Topo load on to the 705 if I get a card?

I am not familiar with Topo 4, is it a Garmin product? If it is not a Garmin product I cannot advise you on it compatabitlity. If it is a Garmin product you could load it on the Garmin within its 500mb internal storage or if that is not large enough the unit will read an sd card up to 2gb.

Also, I have not found a way to transfer a route/course from a third party software to the 705 - they just don't seem to work. Does anyone have a link for an actual hands on guide for building a course in something like google maps or map my ride, and then getting onto the 705. The map my ride file is not recognized by the 705 even though it has the same file extention as the other course files. I wonder if this is a garmin/mac issue so anyone with success with a mac please chime in.

Take a look at this thread over here to see if it helps. I believe they were on a Mac too and had similar problems:

http://forums.motionbased.com/smf/index.php?topic=8001.msg49060#msg49060

I use Delorme TOPO (by far the best TOPO mapping software available) to create routes. And way cheaper than Mapsource products

First, in addition to Delorme TOPO 7 you need a couple other utilities (all free)
1) GPSBable converts all sorts of files .. http://www.gpsbabel.org/
2) TCX Converter converts Garmin history files to GPX .. and GPX to History and Course files.http://www.visivaworld.it/blog.php/tcx-converter-by-ddaaxx


Once you've created a route in TOPO 7 you need to convert it to a Delorme .gpl file. It creates a track like log of your route. (you can also create a gpx file in Delorme but it only registers waypoints and vias and will not give you a smooth route like a course.)

Next, use the 'GPSBable' tool to convert the .gpl file to a .gpx file.
Then use 'TCX Converter' to convert your GPX file to a COURSE file.

Now either import it into Training Center and sync it with your Edge or copy it to your COURSE folder on the Edge.

It might seem a little cumbersome but it is actually quite easy and effective.

Many routes I tried to create in mapsource and save as GPX files would get truncated when I tried to copy it to the Edge. There is a serious limitation as to the length of route saved as a GPX file that you can use. It is actually quite rediculous that the software is so inferior to Delormes and lacking in the ability to create courses, especially when it costs 2 to 3 times as much.. I'm hot on this one - so I won't go there right now.

Hey guys. I'm new to the forum. I just received my 705 today (bundle package) and I have a few questions for those who have been playing with one for a while. There are several issues with the unit that are either bugs or I'm not doing the proper settings. 1. When the unit is powered off and turned back on the backlighting level resets to 0%. 2. My weight seems to reset from 155lbs to 150lbs (which is nice if it was true since that's my race weight for my next half marathon) with the same power off and on. 3. Calorie calculation is way off - did a 1hr ride between 15 to 25mph in city streets and it shows total burn of over 1,600 kcal.

I'm still getting to know the unit so I can't really say much more than that. My initial impression is favorable - it looks great, is fairly light, integrates HR, cadence, speed and mapping GPS all in one. I'm looking forward to using it on a planned ride from nyc to montreal at the end of the summer.

Sam

Thanks for the info. So can you get turn by turn road courses on delorme? I am pretty new to this but I was finally able to use mapmyride.com to create a course, then saved it as a garmin course through the mapmyride save menu and then used the import feature in garmin training center for mac software. It showed up on my 705 under the course menu but I have not tested how it works on a bike ride.

Mark

I use Delorme TOPO (by far the best TOPO mapping software available) to create routes. And way cheaper than Mapsource products

First, in addition to Delorme TOPO 7 you need a couple other utilities (all free)
1) GPSBable converts all sorts of files .. http://www.gpsbabel.org/
2) TCX Converter converts Garmin history files to GPX .. and GPX to History and Course files.http://www.visivaworld.it/blog.php/tcx-converter-by-ddaaxx


Once you've created a route in TOPO 7 you need to convert it to a Delorme .gpl file. It creates a track like log of your route. (you can also create a gpx file in Delorme but it only registers waypoints and vias and will not give you a smooth route like a course.)

Next, use the 'GPSBable' tool to convert the .gpl file to a .gpx file.
Then use 'TCX Converter' to convert your GPX file to a COURSE file.

Now either import it into Training Center and sync it with your Edge or copy it to your COURSE folder on the Edge.

It might seem a little cumbersome but it is actually quite easy and effective.

Many routes I tried to create in mapsource and save as GPX files would get truncated when I tried to copy it to the Edge. There is a serious limitation as to the length of route saved as a GPX file that you can use. It is actually quite rediculous that the software is so inferior to Delormes and lacking in the ability to create courses, especially when it costs 2 to 3 times as much.. I'm hot on this one - so I won't go there right now.

I don't know how or if you can import a 'turn by turn' route into the edge. You can create or import waypoints and then tell the Edge to take you there and it will give you turn by turn directions until you reach your destination. If you change course it will recalculate. This is assuming you have City Navigator. My issue with that is you don't have a solid control over what route the Edge will calculate. I actually use it in my car for general navigating.

Regarding 'Way Points'. You can now look up an address on Google, navigate to GoogleMaps and in the window that opens up with your search information you have the option to send the location to you GPS, aka Edge, as a waypoint. really simple.

With a course, once you plot it all you have to do is stay on it. With City navigator installed you can now see all the roads so it is easier to change course and then get back on at some other point if you desire.

You can also navigate to a destination and follow a course at the same time. One feature I like is if when navigating to a destination you have the option to 'follow the road' or select 'off-road'. If you select 'off-road' it creates a 'rubber band' to your destination so you can ride any where you want but you always knows what direction your destination is.

It will be nice when/if I can find a way to import a turn by turn route into the 705 from something like google maps. I like the cue sheet list of turns you can get with the route. I used that last weekend when we got off course (I was just not paying attention to the nav as I was not in the lead) -- I just manually entered in a cross street address and and it took us there with the turn by turn route - I found the text cue sheet like listing of roads to be very useful - one can watch the distance to the next turn shrink as you approach the turn. I am using city navigator 08 with the 705 and garmin training center for mac.

I don't know how or if you can import a 'turn by turn' route into the edge. You can create or import waypoints and then tell the Edge to take you there and it will give you turn by turn directions until you reach your destination. If you change course it will recalculate. This is assuming you have City Navigator. My issue with that is you don't have a solid control over what route the Edge will calculate. I actually use it in my car for general navigating.

Regarding 'Way Points'. You can now look up an address on Google, navigate to GoogleMaps and in the window that opens up with your search information you have the option to send the location to you GPS, aka Edge, as a waypoint. really simple.

With a course, once you plot it all you have to do is stay on it. With City navigator installed you can now see all the roads so it is easier to change course and then get back on at some other point if you desire.

You can also navigate to a destination and follow a course at the same time. One feature I like is if when navigating to a destination you have the option to 'follow the road' or select 'off-road'. If you select 'off-road' it creates a 'rubber band' to your destination so you can ride any where you want but you always knows what direction your destination is.

1. When the unit is powered off and turned back on the backlighting level resets to 0%.

You are not doing anything wrong. My guess is this a power saving feature so that you dont turn the device on a accidentally leave the light on.

2. My weight seems to reset from 155lbs to 150lbs (which is nice if it was true since that's my race weight for my next half marathon) with the same power off and on.

Are you downloading your data to Garmin Training Center? If so you may have a different weight in there and it is overiding what you have on the 705. If not you may have a corrupt profile on the 705. To fix it, plug the 705 into your computer, delete the file UserProfile.TCX on the 705 in the folder Profile. Diconnect from the computer. You will have to rebuild your profile but hopefully it will fix your problem.


3. Calorie calculation is way off - did a 1hr ride between 15 to 25mph in city streets and it shows total burn of over 1,600 kcal.

You are correct. This has been an issue since day one with the entire Edge series. Polar seems to be able to do it with their watches so no one seems to understand why Garmin cannot figure it out too.

So can you get turn by turn road courses on delorme?

Been years since I use Delorme as I now use Mapsource so I cannot speak to it. For those with Mapsource you can very easily create a route with turn by turn instructions.

In Mapsource you:
1) make sure auto routing is turned on in Edit/Preferences/Routing
2) use the route tool to select your points
3) save your route as a GPX file
4) copy the route to the 705 and place it in the GPX folder on the unit or your SD card if you have one
5) on the unit you will find your route in the Where to/Saved Rides menu path

You will now also get access to the cue sheet screen on the unit.

Note: There is a BIG bug with this feature that we have talked about before. Longer routes over 20m +/- get truncated and the unit will not fully navigate them. There are work arounds where you convert these files to tracks or courses. Read back in this thread for some instructions on how to do that until the bug is fixed.

I have a 705 with maps loaded from garmin dvd maps. I took my first ride with the nav this past weekend (65 miles) and it saved us when we got lost 30 miles out. The downer is that I have a mac (intel based imac) and can't figure out how to build a course and get it onto the 705. The 65 mile course did automatically transfer from the 705 to the garmin training center for mac software and I can view it as a history course, which is nice. However in GTC, the function that allows you to build a course from history doesn't function - it is a light color on the menu meaning not available. Also, I have not found a way to transfer a route/course from a third party software to the 705 - they just don't seem to work. Does anyone have a link for an actual hands on guide for building a course in something like google maps or map my ride, and then getting onto the 705. The map my ride file is not recognized by the 705 even though it has the same file extention as the other course files. I wonder if this is a garmin/mac issue so anyone with success with a mac please chime in.

Thanks!
Mark

try wwww.bikeroutetoaster.com

This site allows you to make a tcx file, which you can import via tc as a course.

Joe

Originally Posted by PimpMyRide 1. When the unit is powered off and turned back on the backlighting level resets to 0%.

When you hit the power the backlight turns on dimmed. Hit it again and it goes to your last setting. Hit it again and it goes to full power.

Hit the enter button at any time to make the diplay options go away.

Been years since I use Delorme as I now use Mapsource so I cannot speak to it. For those with Mapsource you can very easily create a route with turn by turn instructions.

In Mapsource you:
1) make sure auto routing is turned on in Edit/Preferences/Routing
2) use the route tool to select your points
3) save your route as a GPX file
4) copy the route to the 705 and place it in the GPX folder on the unit or your SD card if you have one
5) on the unit you will find your route in the Where to/Saved Rides menu path

You will now also get access to the cue sheet screen on the unit.

Note: There is a BIG bug with this feature that we have talked about before. Longer routes over 20m +/- get truncated and the unit will not fully navigate them. There are work arounds where you convert these files to tracks or courses. Read back in this thread for some instructions on how to do that until the bug is fixed.

I have to check this again but I don't think the mac version of mapsource will do this for some reason. I could not get it to happen with my initial attempts anyway. I'll check this evening. This weekend I used a map my ride course that I imported as a course into my 705. It was really great all day on the 70 mile course.

The one big problem I have with using the google maps or map-my-ride is the little mistakes that occur in the maps or route turn instructions. I recommend that anyone using those sources follow the course in fine detail on screen to ensure that the route doesn't suddenly take a little dirt road or nonroad or indicate a wrong turn in the cue sheets. That has happened several times. An important trick I learned was to view the map-my-ride course in topo format to help to determine whether a road you have selected in a dirt road (for road bikers of course).

Otherwise the approach of using the 705 to guide one through a long road ride by using a course (no turn-by-turn instructions as you get in a route) works very well. I am really happy I bought one.

Mark

try wwww.bikeroutetoaster.com

This site allows you to make a tcx file, which you can import via tc as a course.

Joe

Thanks Joe - Is it any better than map-my-ride? If so, why?

Mark

I have to check this again but I don't think the mac version of mapsource will do this for some reason. I could not get it to happen with my initial attempts anyway. I'll check this evening. This weekend I used a map my ride course that I imported as a course into my 705. It was really great all day on the 70 mile course.

The one big problem I have with using the google maps or map-my-ride is the little mistakes that occur in the maps or route turn instructions. I recommend that anyone using those sources follow the course in fine detail on screen to ensure that the route doesn't suddenly take a little dirt road or nonroad or indicate a wrong turn in the cue sheets. That has happened several times. An important trick I learned was to view the map-my-ride course in topo format to help to determine whether a road you have selected in a dirt road (for road bikers of course).

Otherwise the approach of using the 705 to guide one through a long road ride by using a course (no turn-by-turn instructions as you get in a route) works very well. I am really happy I bought one.

Mark

Well just to show that I'm not crazy I found on the Garmin website where it says that they don't support mapsource for mac. You can buy the maps and can use garmin training center but they have not released the mac version of mapsource - that stinks! Here is what they say: "Garmin® is happy to provide a downloadable tutorial for our MapSource products. While our MapSource products don't support Macs at this time, we have provided the tutorial in both Mac and PC formats. " Well that is helpful isn't it ? You can see how it would work if they actually provided software for the product that they sold you saying it was provided. I like the 705, but they need to correct this treatment of Mac users immediately.

Mark

As I new user to the 705, it seems to be meeting expectations . . . lots to learn, but that will take some time. However, when establishing a route, all seems to work fine, until I begin cycling. Then, unless I'm missing something, the arrow merely stays with me and does not tell me where to turn.

Would surely appreciate it if someone in the know, could provide detailed instructions (from A - Z) on how set a routing using the N.A. City Navigator Maps, to ensure that the "arrow" tells me where to go and when I go off course.

Thanks a million.

A Newbee

As I new user to the 705, it seems to be meeting expectations . . . lots to learn, but that will take some time. However, when establishing a route, all seems to work fine, until I begin cycling. Then, unless I'm missing something, the arrow merely stays with me and does not tell me where to turn.

Would surely appreciate it if someone in the know, could provide detailed instructions (from A - Z) on how set a routing using the N.A. City Navigator Maps, to ensure that the "arrow" tells me where to go and when I go off course.

Thanks a million.

A Newbee

I don't think you are missing anything. The compass arrow will always stay pointed forward unless you go off course. Try going off course once and you will see what happens. The compass becomes more important when you are navigating using the "Off Road" selection. In this mode the compass arrow will always point towards your next waypoint/destination.

Hope that helps.

Isn't he saying that he is not getting turn prompts from a route? If you go off on a route it should auto reroute and if you go off a course it should say off course and you have to find your own way back. The course approach is what I use. I can't do a planned route on mapsource because it doesn't support mac at this time. Maybe you have to start the route or something so it will give prompts.

More of a SportTracks question relating to the Edge 705. How do I import the ride/history (*.tcx) file(s) from the Edge705 into SportTracks as an activity.

It was easy with the Edge 305 but the 705 is a little different. I can only see xml & gpx files in SportTracks. The Edge 705 ride history file has a *.tcx extension and tcx extensions are not seen within SportTracks.

How are you guys getting ride data on the Edge 705 into SportTracks?? I've already post the question in the SportTrack forum but no answer yet.

Thanks, Tippy

More of a SportTracks question relating to the Edge 705. How do I import the ride/history (*.tcx) file(s) from the Edge705 into SportTracks as an activity.

It was easy with the Edge 305 but the 705 is a little different. I can only see xml & gpx files in SportTracks. The Edge 705 ride history file has a *.tcx extension and tcx extensions are not seen within SportTracks.

How are you guys getting ride data on the Edge 705 into SportTracks?? I've already post the question in the SportTrack forum but no answer yet.

Thanks, Tippy


It is a bit of work but I recall reading that you could download to Training Center, export the data, and then import that file to Sport Tracks. I have used Sport Tracks but not with my 705 so I cannot verify this at this time.

It is a bit of work but I recall reading that you could download to Training Center, export the data, and then import that file to Sport Tracks. I have used Sport Tracks but not with my 705 so I cannot verify this at this time.

I found this post (http://www.bikeforums.net/showpost.php?p=6532679&postcount=153) by ottoman. It pertains to converting TCX to GPX for mapping purposes.
... First, in addition to Delorme TOPO 7 you need a couple other utilities (all free)
1) GPSBable converts all sorts of files .. http://www.gpsbabel.org/
2) TCX Converter converts Garmin history files to GPX .. and GPX to History and Course files.http://www.visivaworld.it/blog.php/t...rter-by-ddaaxx ...

I said what the heck, maybe the TCX to GPX will work on ride history tcx files too. I downloaded the TCX to GPX converter (see ottoman's post) and converted the ride history tcx to a gpx file.

SportTracks saw the gpx file and imported it with no problems. Maybe someday SportTracks will have a TCX to GPX converter built in. Either way, its working OK enough for now. And I didn't need to pass it through the Training Center software ... just convert to GPX and import. Simple.

Thanks.

Somewhat off-topic but thougth I'd share my 2 day troubleshooting with the 705 and 2nd Cadence kit. 705 works like a champ on my road bike - cadence etc... Purchased another cadence kit for full suspension bike and setup the candence - worked great in the garage. Out riding it was a different story -- I noticed that I was not getting any cadence. I would get off of the bike - click the test button and both red and green lights blinked (Everything working) --- get back on bike and seems to work for a minute or so then stops. I did this several times over the next several days/rides and finally it dawned on me that when I sit on the bike my suspension compresses and therefore moves the cadence sensor just enough to loose its pickup. I made a quick trail adjustment and all is GOOD! I was getting ready to request a RMA for the cadence kit :-) Still very pleased with my 705 -

Just an update on the course navigation (pre-planned routing) -

I've been using this thing as a "digital cue sheet" now a few times. This means a .gpx "saved ride" (not a track file - a 'course'). I've found a few things are helpful.

First, keep it set to offroad routing if your course goes over any sidewalk or bike path, etc. If you don't, the first time you go offroad it will just give up on your course and autonavigate back to the start location. You will get no notice of this fact--you will just realize that you aren't going the right way. I've also had it reset back to "on road" routing for no reason after setting the offroad option. I'm not sure what the cause of this was, but I think it might have been uploading to training center.

Second, If you slightly deviate from the course (missing a turn, etc.), I have had mixed results. Sometimes it will give you clear directions to get back on the course (make a U-turn or turn on this different street ahead, etc.). Sometimes, however, it will just "give up". The course just disappears and navigation stops. If you go back under "saved rides" and select the course and hit navigate again, it will pick up where it left off without a hitch. Annoying, but you can obviously avoid it happening very frequently if you stay on track.

Third, I've noticed sometimes the drawing is off. The line is on a side road nearby. It will snap back to the correct road eventually (like when an event occurs like a turn notification).

Lastly, you may encounter problems trying to do a course for a second lap while you are physically located near the start point. It will still think you are trying to "finish" your last lap even if you stop and restart navigation. Best bet seems to be moving around nearer to the start position.

One other thing.. does anyone know how to get it to flash your upcoming turn notification ahead of time while on the map screen? Is there a button that does this? I'm not talking about going to that screen that just lists upcoming turns.. i want to see the next one without leaving the map.

Just received the maps for my 605. While waiting for the maps to show up I managed to find "Garmin Bobcat", a beta routing and waypoint program for the Mac. I just finished creating a route expecting to then have to convert it to a course since it is about 100 miles, but it seems to load without any issues. Routes that I have tried to load from MapMyRide.com would generate errors and none of the turn markers would be correct.

I am thinking that routing may work for longer rides providing the route only consists of waypoints and does not have track information in it. I'll be testing this out tomorrow and will post how well this works out.

Just received the maps for my 605. While waiting for the maps to show up I managed to find "Garmin Bobcat", a beta routing and waypoint program for the Mac. I just finished creating a route expecting to then have to convert it to a course since it is about 100 miles, but it seems to load without any issues. Routes that I have tried to load from MapMyRide.com would generate errors and none of the turn markers would be correct.

I am thinking that routing may work for longer rides providing the route only consists of waypoints and does not have track information in it. I'll be testing this out tomorrow and will post how well this works out.

Interesting. Looking forward to your report.

Here's a link to "Garmin Bobcat" for anyone else looking for it.


http://www8.garmin.com/support/download_details.jsp?id=3886

Reporting back now on how the "Bobcat" route worked. While the routing worked well, I did experience two crashes. When I reset the Garmin, I found that I had not lost my recording and only needed to hit the start button again to begin recording again. I also did not need to enable the routing. I was still following the route even after forcing the unit to restart. I did notice that while the distance to next turn is pretty accurate, the time to next turn was a bit unreasonable. At one point in the ride, while climbing and not moving very fast the Garmin had determined that I should be able to finish the ride in an hour and that I had over 30 miles to go. Pretty optimistic, considering my average wasn't even as high as 20.

Regarding the two crashes, I am experimenting with the settings to see if there is a work-around to avoid the lock-ups. Both happend while displaying the map. I tried turning off automatic zooming after the first one, but it didn't help. I did notice when I finished that I had map detail set to the maximum setting so I have set that down to "normal." It doesn't seem to make any difference in the display quality but I think the screen refreshes noticeably faster, so something must be different.

For anyone trying Garmin Bobcat, I installed the route directly from the program, not by making a .gpx file. I'm going to try making a .gpx and dragging over next to see if makes any difference.

One issue I have noticed is that the only way to delete waypoints appears to be one at a time. If waypoints are overwritten once you reach the limit, this shouldn't be a problem however, if you need to delete them one by one to get a route to work, it will be easier to completely erase the device and re-enter personal information than to acutally try to delete the waypoints.

Does anyone know if you can have both Garmins Topo maps and city navigator maps on the same SD card? or are you only able to load 1 file at a time? I noticed that maps all have the gmapsupp.img file name. Is there another file name that can be used?

I did notice that while the distance to next turn is pretty accurate, the time to next turn was a bit unreasonable. At one point in the ride, while climbing and not moving very fast the Garmin had determined that I should be able to finish the ride in an hour and that I had over 30 miles to go. Pretty optimistic, considering my average wasn't even as high as 20.

Did you have it set to car or bicycle mode? I have actually found that when set to bicycle mode it fairly consistently uses an average of about 12-13 MPH and ignores your average and even current speed.

Regarding the two crashes, I am experimenting with the settings to see if there is a work-around to avoid the lock-ups. Both happend while displaying the map. I tried turning off automatic zooming after the first one, but it didn't help. I did notice when I finished that I had map detail set to the maximum setting so I have set that down to "normal." It doesn't seem to make any difference in the display quality but I think the screen refreshes noticeably faster, so something must be different.


Let us know if it crashes at the lower detail setting. I have not heard of anyone testing that as being the cause of the problem. I have yet to have mine lock up on me but I also don't sit on the map screen for long periods.

This is a general comment for all users of the Edge 605 and 705.

For those of you that have problems with the unit please contact Garmin support. The only way they know a problem exists is through our feedback. They do not cull through these websites looking for problems. If you know someone else has already submitted the problem you are having still submit it. The more users that submit a problem the higher on their list of items to fix the problem will be.

Email feeback can be done here:
http://www.garmin.com/garmin/cms/home/support/searchsupport

It has you search their database of FAQ's then lets you submit you issue.

Phone contact info can be found here:
http://www.garmin.com/garmin/cms/home/support/supportcontact

Did you have it set to car or bicycle mode?
Double checked and it was in bicycle mode. I have never switched it to car mode. Not sure why the times were so far off. I'll see what it does the next time.

Let us know if it crashes at the lower detail setting.
I checked on the Motionbased forums and someone claims that they tried lower detail settings and it did not help. He also listed just about every setting that you could think of that might be related and none of them worked. It does seem possible that the crashes only happen if the map display screen is used a lot. I have the Davis Double coming up soon and I'll try avoiding the map screen and see what happens.

Todays ride consisted of a short warm up followed by a steep hill climb on tandem. While heading out to where I wanted to start timing, I left the map on but no crash. Once I started timing, I wanted it avoid it crashing if possible so just stayed on the bike 1 and bike 2 screens.

I'm not happy about not being able to look at maps I spent over $100 on the device they were designed to work on, but the reality is that I will probably spend more time looking at the route slip screen for longer rides. Hopefully an update is released soon.

I am actually more concerned with how I am going to manage to delete waypoints. I am hoping that they just get written over when I hit the maximum, but if not, I will probably end up resetting the unit instead of manually deleting them.

OK, The calorie count idea is all wrong.....

I realized AFTER I bought the unit that heart rate or bodyweight has no bearing on the calories consumed.... I bought this unit to replace my polar CS600 only to find that the calories consumed is at least 10x that of what the polar reports.

Cos the CS600 runs a W.I.N.D. sensor, now I have to wear 2 straps and keep both computers on my handlebars with two sets of sensors on my bike..... THIS IS DOWNRIGHT ANNOYING.

After testing various scenarios out on the road I found that the calories burnt is directly attributable to speed and cadence and is NOT based around anything to do with heart rate making the 705 a glorified BPM monitor/speedo.

While Garmin may think that Cadence and speed is a good idea, how can they make an assumption on cals burnt if they dont take into account someones fitness. Paolo's VO2max is much better than mine and Im sure his resting heart rate proves his fitness is better than mine ergo; for a given amount of work he has a lower heart rate.

Additionally, if i Draft behind the group/bus/truck/downhill at 45km/h with my legs still turning, my heart rate decreases, and therefore my energy expenditure decreases, however using the same cadence and at the same speed into the wind solo will see my heart rate jump to close to 95% and therefore my energy expenditure is also increased. So I fail to see how speed and cadence can solely be responsible for calorie expenditure.

When I went and researched this on the support site, it appears that the garmin mentality is that speed and cadence are sufficient to determine calorie expenditure and that this mentality is "by design"

Obvioulsy the R+D engineers at garmin arent cyclists....

I have emailed the support site and to date have had NO REPLY.

If this is not resolved in the next software version, I will probably get rid of my 705, until then I will ride with my glorified BPM monitor.

Does anyone know if you can have both Garmins Topo maps and city navigator maps on the same SD card? or are you only able to load 1 file at a time? I noticed that maps all have the gmapsupp.img file name. Is there another file name that can be used?

Yes, through Garmin's MapSource you can combine both map sets into one gmapsupp.img file, but you will not be able to use the Find "Addresses" or "Intersections" features. Combining the two map sets appears to disable these features no matter which map set you select. I was able to work around this by loading the city navigator maps onto the SD card and the topo maps into the 705. I only need a few topo maps (20MB) so it is not a big issue for me.

I was able to work around this by loading the city navigator maps onto the SD card and the topo maps into the 705. I only need a few topo maps (20MB) so it is not a big issue for me.

Great idea, I didn't even think about doing that. I was only going to load CT & NY & CA topo's... so that should easily fit on the roughly 400MB's of free space.

Thanks.

I have a 2.0 Gb card and I loaded 1.6 Gb worth of data and the 705 that I had took a looooong time to boot up. I subsequently only put about 50 Mb worth of maps on the SD card and it booted right up.

I'm going to try and put street maps on the SD card and topo maps on the 705 like you. Thanks for the advice!

Haha... I'm in CT too... Milford, CT... I just loaded CT, MA, and NY on the SD card.

For those that have purchased any maps on an SD card don't try and add to those maps on the SD card. You will loose them. If you want to add more maps be sure to place them on the Edge itself.

Just an FYI.

got my first freeze up on the map screen today. Sucks. Happened shortly after re-navigating a course after one of the thing's random re-navigations.

got my first freeze up on the map screen today. Sucks. Happened shortly after re-navigating a course after one of the thing's random re-navigations.

I got the same thing too. Viewing the map screen, almost home from the ride, only .5 miles out and it froze. Only thing I could do was shut it off. Ended up with no ride data, bummer.

got my first freeze up on the map screen today. Sucks. Happened shortly after re-navigating a course after one of the thing's random re-navigations.


Mine has frozen up the last two rides and I lost all my data. Every thing was great until the last two days.

I keep my display on the map screen with two data boxes. I just added the data boxes (cadence and HR). So, I am going to remove the two data screens and see what happens.

This is bull****! My 305 worked flawlessly.

Mine has frozen up the last two rides and I lost all my data. Every thing was great until the last two days.

I keep my display on the map screen with two data boxes. I just added the data boxes (cadence and HR). So, I am going to remove the two data screens and see what happens.

This is bull****! My 305 worked flawlessly.

I use those two same data boxes on the map screen, so let me know if that helps.

I use those two same data boxes on the map screen, so let me know if that helps.
Three votes for two data screens with frozen Garmin on map screen. Any others have same settings?

When mine reset, I was able to hit the mode and lap button to reset and I only lost the part of the workout during the crash. When I turned the Garmin back on, it not only still had my information, but it still knew that I was following a route. I think there are two ways to reset. Mode and Lap shouldn't erase everything.

For those that have purchased any maps on an SD card don't try and add to those maps on the SD card. You will loose them. If you want to add more maps be sure to place them on the Edge itself.

Just an FYI.

I would suggest just backing up the SD card. then you could always copy it back and be good as new. I backed up both by 705 & the SD card. so I can always restore to factory.

Quick question on GPX files. If I use mapmyride etc to create a GPX of a ride I want to follow and copy it to my 705 under the GPX directory I can then navigate the route as I expect. What happens if say I take a short cut to chop of a loop and pick the course back up after the short cut. Will the 705 then keep following the course from that point, or will it keep trying to direct me back to where I left the course?

Quick question on GPX files. If I use mapmyride etc to create a GPX of a ride I want to follow and copy it to my 705 under the GPX directory I can then navigate the route as I expect. What happens if say I take a short cut to chop of a loop and pick the course back up after the short cut. Will the 705 then keep following the course from that point, or will it keep trying to direct me back to where I left the course?

Lot of variables that can impact it. Simplified version is that it will re-route in an attempt to get you to the next logical waypoint on the route.

Thanks for the quick reply!

I see, so when I initially leave the route it will try to turn me around, but once I'm closer to the point I'm rejoining the course it will pick up from there?

Lot of variables that can impact it. Simplified version is that it will re-route in an attempt to get you to the next logical waypoint on the route.

Coupled with random crashing, re-routing you back to the start, or dropping the route entirely (see posts above). If it re-routes you, be sure to pay attention and make sure your route still looks correct onscreen.

Garmin MapSource City Navigator Europe NT microSD and SD.
Looking for a good price.
Have any of you used this particular card?

Thanks in advance!

I thought I'd post the response from Garmin on my question about the 705 supporting SD cards larger then 2GB's.

Thank you for contacting Garmin International.


I will be happy to answer your question. Currently, the unit will work with up to a 2Gb microSD card. The 4GB micro SD cards have not been tested with the unit at this point to verify they will work or not.

With Best Regards,

On my ride today, the 705's heart beat didn't start to register until maybe six miles in... I repeatedly adjusted the strap and wet the sensors... it was making good contact. But it wouldn't work. Finally, it started to register but even then, it sometimes fluctuated wildly.... not my heart.. the display.

I'm wondering if my mobile phone (iPhone) somehow interferes with it? In my first ride with this new unit Wednesday, the phone was in a bag on the back. This time, it was in my jersey pocket not far from the strap. Anyone else experience this?

On my ride today, the 705's heart beat didn't start to register until maybe six miles in... I repeatedly adjusted the strap and wet the sensors... it was making good contact. But it wouldn't work. Finally, it started to register but even then, it sometimes fluctuated wildly.... not my heart.. the display.

I'm wondering if my mobile phone (iPhone) somehow interferes with it? In my first ride with this new unit Wednesday, the phone was in a bag on the back. This time, it was in my jersey pocket not far from the strap. Anyone else experience this?

The easiest way to see if it was your phone is to turn the phone off, put on your strap, turn on your Edge. Be sure to do this clear of any Wifi networks and wireless home phones since you are having trouble.

If you are still having trouble go into the accessories screen on the Edge and tell it to re-acquire the HR strap.

If this does not work you may have a bum battery, it is a simple CR2032. The symptoms you described are very similar to what I have had happen when a battery gets low.

If none of this fixes it call Garmin and they will most likely send you a new strap for free.

Dang had my first lock up on the 705. Was following a course and viewing the map screen. Didn't notice that the computer had locked up for a mile or so... Turned the power off and then back on. The map page still had the course running, so I continued my ride.

However from that point on there was zero gradient % or total ascent info available. When I got home and downloaded the ride info into Ascent all of the gradient and ascent info was there.

Guess I need to get back out there and see if I can get my gradient info to start registering on the data page once again. Soft Reset: Lap + Timer while powering up or while power is on? Or any other ideas would be appreciated.

Thanks.