Singlespeed & Fixed Gear - Questions: About tires for skidding.

I skid daily.
A ton of skidding actually, it's pretty fun.
Even alone, I'm not one of those people that skid just to show off.

I'm currently using an Armadillo rear tire, but the skid patch is forming and I've had the tire for 2 days! I'm wondering if I should replace it soon, or just stop skidding on it.
And I'm also wondering if you sexy members of BF could refer me to some tires that'll last longer when it comes to skidding.
And yes, I know tires aren't meant for skidding whatsoever.

what gear you got and what cog?

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(Gatorskins + skid patch calculator)
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I skid daily.
A ton of skidding actually, it's pretty fun.
Even alone, I'm not one of those people that skid just to show off.

I'm currently using an Armadillo rear tire, but the skid patch is forming and I've had the tire for 2 days! I'm wondering if I should replace it soon, or just stop skidding on it.
And I'm also wondering if you sexy members of BF could refer me to some tires that'll last longer when it comes to skidding.
And yes, I know tires aren't meant for skidding whatsoever.

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Hey I thought you were quitting these boards forever and ever? Or did you fail at getting banned. Keep on trying.

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Hey I thought you were quitting these boards forever and ever? Or did you fail at getting banned. Keep on trying.

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Can't just get some advice?
I get troll and flames?

Anyone want to give me a serious answer? Thanks.

the serious answer is......

SKID as much as possible....don't worry about the patches...they make you gully

hipsters will give you props when you pop a tire from skidding through it


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try matching your cog and chainring so the numbers don't have a common denominator (see chart above). if you have the frame clearance, try a larger touring tire with a kevlar belt. i swear by panaracer tserv. one tserv got me through a year of s.f. commuting sans brakes.

Personally, I try to avoid skids at all costs. However, I can offer you my observation that Armadillos aren't a good choice if you enjoy skidding. They have a soft rubber layer over a harder plastic layer for puncture protection. I had Armadillos on my roadie as winter tires. During a group ride, there was a crash and I went into a full-panic skid at 27mph that took off a 5 inch long skid patch deep into the puncture layer. I just threw that tire out.

QUESTION:
I just went through a tire from skidding (mainly because it was my first tire and I was practicing learning how to do it). I have a 48/16 (3.0) ratio, and apparently there is only one skid patch with this ratio. Does that mean that there is basically one spot on the tire that gets rubbed away?

sorry to slow the jerkstore party for everyone.

sorry to slow the jerkstore party for everyone.

no, the more you skid...the more you deserve skid patches...they are the reward....period

First off. This gets discussed (at least) once a week here. There is a search function.
Second. People around here like, gatorskins, soma everware etc. (except for thunderchuncky. He likes search but those are hard to find) I have the soma's and they are holding up fine, but are like $45 a piece. You should also invest in a 17 tooth cog. 17 skid patches will help a lot.
Third. There is a search function.

I just went through a tire from skidding (mainly because it was my first tire and I was practicing learning how to do it). I have a 48/16 (3.0) ratio, and apparently there is only one skid patch with this ratio. Does that mean that there is basically one spot on the tire that gets rubbed away?

one per side, so technically two.

ps, i have no idea how this works whatsoever. voodoo science imo, but i still chose my ratio (47x16) because patch calculators told me it gives 16. best combo in my desired gearinch range.

if you drop to a 47 from a 48 (hardly noticeable), you'll increase your skid patches sixteen times.

armadillos suck.

vittoria randonneur.

don't forget to rotate you wheel.

as in, take it off the bike, turn it a bit then put it back on. it'll change the skid patch position so your tire lasts longer. ya know?

bonti hardcases *****es

^
4 lyfe, basically.

You picked the wrong night kimosabe...


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Ulrich is off the charts!

one per side, so technically two.

ps, i have no idea how this works whatsoever. voodoo science imo, but i still chose my ratio (47x16) because patch calculators told me it gives 16. best combo in my desired gearinch range.

if you drop to a 47 from a 48 (hardly noticeable), you'll increase your skid patches sixteen times.

Thanks man. These cranks are kinda long too, I always clip them on corners, so this upgrade will be good in more than one way. One issue I'm having is finding 47t chainrings and cranks... so maybe I'll switch my back cog to a 17...

one per side, so technically two.

ps, i have no idea how this works whatsoever. voodoo science imo, but i still chose my ratio (47x16) because patch calculators told me it gives 16. best combo in my desired gearinch range.

if you drop to a 47 from a 48 (hardly noticeable), you'll increase your skid patches sixteen times.

If you have 48X16, your wheel will make 3 revolutions everytime your cranks make 1 revolution. Expand from there.

don't forget to rotate you wheel.

as in, take it off the bike, turn it a bit then put it back on. it'll change the skid patch position so your tire lasts longer. ya know?

No! What about the tire label aligning with the valve stem, huh? You'll end up in the jackass thread.


I'm kidding of course, but it could sadly be true. You should have the descriptive label with the valve, labels facing out from the drive side. Also for the wheel itself, if you can't see the label on the hub through the hole for the valve in the rim, junk it. You should also have the labels on the hubs be right side up when behind your bike. Do it! Or it'll look like you do your own work. :rolleyes:

Thanks man. These cranks are kinda long too, I always clip them on corners, so this upgrade will be good in more than one way. One issue I'm having is finding 47t chainrings and cranks... so maybe I'll switch my back cog to a 17...


sugino zen comes in 47, btw.

actually:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=47+tooth+chainring+1%2F8%22&btnG=Google+Search

You picked the wrong night kimosabe...


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http://www.optionnz.com/users/afs/i1/FixedRatio.jpg

This should be a sticky!

waaaaay better:
http://software.bareknucklebrigade.com/rabbit.jnlp
it's java, and thus platform independent. i have it on my linux and windows systems; my girlfriend has it on her mac. i reference it once a week.

No! What about the tire label aligning with the valve stem, huh? You'll end up in the jackass thread.


I'm kidding of course, but it could sadly be true. You should have the descriptive label with the valve, labels facing out from the drive side. Also for the wheel itself, if you can't see the label on the hub through the hole for the valve in the rim, junk it. You should also have the labels on the hubs be right side up when behind your bike. Do it! Or it'll look like you do your own work. :rolleyes:

what?

i love you.

waaaaay better:
http://software.bareknucklebrigade.com/rabbit.jnlp
it's java, and thus platform independent. i have it on my linux and windows systems; my girlfriend has it on her mac. i reference it once a week.

Or you could just.... look at the chart.

Or you could just.... look at the chart.

the chart gives you like 1/8 the information the rabbit util does.
it gives you a gearinch calculator, a table for rpm = mph (and km/h) based on selected gear ratio, a visual depiction on your skidpatch(es) with coresponding revolution, and much more info.
it's quite simply a much more complete resource for getting practical information about your drivetrain.

click the link, you'll see what i mean.

Try the Soma everwear. COG did a write up on them, said they were great for skidding.

the chart gives you like 1/8 the information the rabbit util does.
it gives you a gearinch calculator, a table for rpm = mph (and km/h) based on selected gear ratio, a visual depiction on your skidpatch(es) with coresponding revolution, and much more info.
it's quite simply a much more complete resource for getting practical information about your drivetrain.

click the link, you'll see what i mean.

I know I was just giving you **** ;)

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No! What about the tire label aligning with the valve stem, huh? You'll end up in the jackass thread.


I'm kidding of course, but it could sadly be true. You should have the descriptive label with the valve, labels facing out from the drive side. Also for the wheel itself, if you can't see the label on the hub through the hole for the valve in the rim, junk it. You should also have the labels on the hubs be right side up when behind your bike. Do it! Or it'll look like you do your own work. :rolleyes:

Lol! You don't have to rotate the tire on the rim. You just have to rotate the wheel itself. slacken the chain and pop it off the chain ring, rotate the wheel without rotating the crank, then pop the chain back on.

the serious answer is......

SKID as much as possible....don't worry about the patches...they make you gully

hipsters will give you props when you pop a tire from skidding through it


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damn do0d your socially and fashionably 2 years ahead of all of us...
tell me what's gonna be cool next so i can ditch my fixed and hop on the next bandwagon so you can laugh in superiority

oh, and just ride bontrager hardcases..

(4lyfe)

**** yeah

my gatorskin lasted me 4 months, then i ran over something that sliced through it (and my tube) like a brand new razorblade. my buddy had a brand new soma everwear he gave me and it's been treating me really well the last month. and i skid a fair amount, but not all the time.

No! What about the tire label aligning with the valve stem, huh? You'll end up in the jackass thread.


I'm kidding of course, but it could sadly be true. You should have the descriptive label with the valve, labels facing out from the drive side. Also for the wheel itself, if you can't see the label on the hub through the hole for the valve in the rim, junk it. You should also have the labels on the hubs be right side up when behind your bike. Do it! Or it'll look like you do your own work. :rolleyes:




Or you could just slip chain off the cog, turn wheel, put chain back on. Wheel rotated. No tire removal necessary, labels where they should be, no jackass.

what the hell. who would think i was talking about taking the tire off. i said wheel @_@

i guess when i was trying to avoid the "har har fetch you can rotate wheelz by turning cranks nub!" respond i pidgeon holed myself into another jackass response :(

Try the Soma everwear. COG did a write up on them, said they were great for skidding.


those tires suck. i hope you're kidding. i had one as a front tire, and the sidewalls started going out after three weeks.

those tires suck. i hope you're kidding. i had one as a front tire, and the sidewalls started going out after three weeks.

you have to pump up the tube first.

+1 vittoria rando's
never tried the bontragers, but i'm interested
would steer clear of anything soma

Thanks for all the advice.
And I'm an idiot for not remembering to just take off the chain and rotate the wheel, lul.

I skid daily.
A ton of skidding actually, it's pretty fun.
Even alone, I'm not one of those people that skid just to show off.

I'm currently using an Armadillo rear tire, but the skid patch is forming and I've had the tire for 2 days! I'm wondering if I should replace it soon, or just stop skidding on it.
And I'm also wondering if you sexy members of BF could refer me to some tires that'll last longer when it comes to skidding.
And yes, I know tires aren't meant for skidding whatsoever.


these are:
http://store.somafab.com/everweartire.html

also use this to see if your chainring/cog combo is giving you only one or three skid patches:http://software.bareknucklebrigade.com/rabbit.applet.html

I run 38/15 for 66.8" and 15 skid patches, but you could run a 41/17 and get like 32 skid patches if you skid ambidexterous (I do)

I just picked up a pair of Panaracer Extreme Duro tires. They are holding up well after about a month. The rubber is damn hard but the traction is good. They are harder to break loose and they grab quicker when my weight moves back. And the casing is super thick. They don't feel as good as the gatorskins I was riding in the states, but I do more skidding over here due to traffic and these seem to be more durable. Plus the rubber + the road surface produces a cool squeal when I skid.

With gatorskins, I would go through one every 3 months or so with hardly any skidding. Just commuting would flatten out the tread. The felt really good and had descent puncture protection. And I got them for $16 each.

these are:
http://store.somafab.com/everweartire.html

also use this to see if your chainring/cog combo is giving you only one or three skid patches:http://software.bareknucklebrigade.com/rabbit.applet.html

I run 38/15 for 66.8" and 15 skid patches, but you could run a 41/17 and get like 32 skid patches if you skid ambidexterous (I do)

I run 45/16, and I have one skid patch. I'm not ambidexterous, I skid with the right foot up, and left foot back.
Thanks for the advice, I'm probably going to change my gearing sometime soon.