Mountain Biking - Planning to Build up a Lightweight

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Im a little out of the times with hardtails, all iv really looked at in the past year has been for building up my FS, but it weighs in at about 30lbs and is a pain to ride with my buddies who mostly do in between XC and All Mountain riding. So im looking to build up a hardtail that weighs under (or just about) 15lbs. So whats popular right now?

Requirements are, under $900, hardtail, Aluminum, want enough left over for something like XT/X9 componentry.

Wow. Just....

I REALLY hope you're kidding (well... I should say attmpted humor).

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Ha! The Scott Scale LTD, a top-end carbon hardtail, has XTR and weighs in at 18 pounds. It costs $8000 to boot.

Good luck drilling all those holes in your frame.

Anything under 16 pounds will be both incredibly expensive (Actually, anything under 20 will cost a lot), no matter how old the components, and also not be capable at anything but the road. Also, 15 pounds is UCI weight limit for road bikes, just so you know....

How long have you been biking again?

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Nvmd, il go somewhere helpful.

Hmmm, iv seen Al hardtails that weigh 15 for like 1500 new. CF is overpriced.

That's gigantic bull-crap if I've ever heard it. Care to provide the link?

and i was hoping for a helpful first comment, silly me.

My comment was plenty helpful. I attempted to make you aware of your own foolishness. Apparently, I failed.

My comment was plenty helpful. I attempted to make you aware of your own foolishness, but apparently, I failed.

Good thing you quoted him.

Good thing you quoted him.

Unfortunately theres no delete thread button for your trash talk. Doesnt matter im worth more than your bike, career, and future combined.

Unfortunately theres no delete thread button for your trash talk. Doesnt matter im worth more than your bike, career, and future combined.

In the world of rhetoric, that is what would be known as an ad hominem (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem). It is generally considered a fallacy and often reflects the offender's apparent incapacity for intelligent speech.

Unfortunately theres no delete thread button for your trash talk. Doesnt matter im worth more than your bike, career, and future combined.

Goddamn, and people daya I'm a garbage forum member!

I'm waiting for that 8' drop.


I also want proof of your statement that you're more than my life. I doubt in that becuase, well, I've never met any adult who would go by the handle "elf'.

Unfortunately theres no delete thread button for your trash talk. Doesnt matter im worth more than your bike, career, and future combined.

That's a hoot. If you're worth so much, then why do you only have $900 to spend on a 15lb bike? And why did you erase everything you said?

That's a hoot. If you're worth so much, then why do you only have $900 to spend on a 15lb bike?
Be me to it.

That's a hoot. If you're worth so much, then why do you only have $900 to spend on a 15lb bike? And why did you erase everything you said?

As blasphemous as it may sound, theres other things in life more neccesary than bikes, especially for a student, i erased everything i said in an effort to avoid pointless conversations such as this.

Its time to drop this post, move on with life, and go spend time with you fam.

There have been a few clueless,lame ass posters over the last couple of years but ol' elf is truely awesome! I really enjoy reading your killer post.

I'm waiting for that 8' drop.



Dude, im busy, i pamper you ppl too much already.

There have been a few clueless,lame ass posters over the last couple of years but ol' elf is truely awesome! I really enjoy reading your killer post.

I will add that to my page of testimonials.
-thanks

Dude, im busy, i pamper you ppl too much already.

You're the one that brought it up. Got pics yet?

Goddamn, and people daya I'm a garbage forum member!

I'm waiting for that 8' drop.


I also want proof of your statement that you're more than my life. I doubt in that becuase, well, I've never met any adult who would go by the handle "elf'.

It happens to have a story behind it which you will never know.

You're the one that brought it up. Got pics yet?

nawp, i wake up at 7, spend the day in school, go to lacrosse practice at 3:10, get home at 6:00, and finish my homework, (which by that time its dark anyway) im not messin, i really dont have the time.

Ironically the only time i will be able to bike is if my game gets rained out on Sat.

nawp, i wake up at 7, spend the day in school, go to lacrosse practice at 3:10, get home at 6:00, and finish my homework, (which by that time its dark anyway) im not messin, i really dont have the time.

Where the hell do you live? I was flyfishing until about 7:15 and it was plenty daylight. So you gonna get pics of that drop?

Where the hell do you live? I was flyfishing until about 7:15 and it was plenty daylight. So you gonna get pics of that drop?

Maryland, but its too dark to take a pic by 6:30 in the woods. I can make time, but im usually tired when i get back.

There have been a few clueless,lame ass posters over the last couple of years but ol' elf is truely awesome! I really enjoy reading your killer post.

Does Elf beat me in the F.A.L. category?

Im not with it, translation?

Will this work until Elf posts his 8'er.

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b23/konarider24/th_HPIM0283.jpg (http://s16.photobucket.com/albums/b23/konarider24/?action=view&current=HPIM0283.flv)

Was just screwing around, waiting for a friend to show, so I decided to session a loading dock at an old farm.

Ha! The Scott Scale LTD, a top-end carbon hardtail, has XTR and weighs in at 18 pounds. It costs $8000 to boot.

Good luck drilling all those holes in your frame.

Anything under 16 pounds will be both incredibly expensive (Actually, anything under 20 will cost a lot), no matter how old the components, and also not be capable at anything but the road. Also, 15 pounds is UCI weight limit for road bikes, just so you know....

How long have you been biking again?

Thats a negative my friend. I built up my Salsa Moto Rapido up the first time with like 10 year old XTR 8 speed and a 1998 Rockshox SID fork and a 2000 set of Mavic Crossrides. The whole bike weighed 22.3 pounds. It actually weighed less with that build then the current build with full XT drivetrain.
Oh yea, I only spent around $700 on the whole build. Being I got the 07 frame with a hook up from one of the dealers that I'm good friends with.

Thats a negative my friend. I built up my Salsa Moto Rapido up the first time with like 10 year old XTR 8 speed and a 1998 Rockshox SID fork and a 2000 set of Mavic Crossrides. The whole bike weighed 22.3 pounds. It actually weighed less with that build then the current build with full XT drivetrain.
Oh yea, I only spent around $700 on the whole build. Being I got the 07 frame with a hook up from one of the dealers that I'm good friends with.

And.... can you think of a cheap way to cut off another 2.3 lbs?

Without drilling holes in stuff.

well, bottom line is my FS isnt as heavy as i thought it was compared to other bikes for the price.

well, bottom line is my FS isnt as heavy as i thought it was compared to other bikes for the price.

You really need to shut up.

Is this pete messing with us again?

A smarter Ric0h?

This is almost better than the "you get green slime in your fork because your fork pump inhales it from pumping your tires" thread...

I know. He really needs to get some common sense. Literally, do you ride the short bus to school? You know, where everyone is cool because every seat is the back seat? But I got some blue stuff in my fork, I wonder what he'll think it is.

What is the blue stuff in my fork elf?

Maryland, but its too dark to take a pic by 6:30 in the woods. I can make time, but im usually tired when i get back.

Horse manure. There's plenty of light at 6:30. Please try again.

Unfortunately theres no delete thread button for your trash talk. Doesnt matter im worth more than your bike, career, and future combined.


[i cant wait til i get the money to do a build of my own (next fall maybe).

bravo....

Can't you guys IP ban pete?

bravo....

Considering that he is still in school I would bet that it is actually mommy and daddy that are worth so much money, he is just a dependent at this point. Once he makes it to the real world and earns his own paycheck he can say how much he is worth, until then it sounds like he is just a spoiled little rich kid, either that or just an all around liar. :rolleyes:

I am worth $32 this week, according to my paycheck =[
I hate part time work.

Considering that he is still in school I would bet that it is actually mommy and daddy that are worth so much money, he is just a dependent at this point. Once he makes it to the real world and earns his own paycheck he can say how much he is worth, until then it sounds like he is just a spoiled little rich kid, either that or just an all around liar. :rolleyes:

I'm going with that.

Considering that he is still in school I would bet that it is actually mommy and daddy that are worth so much money, he is just a dependent at this point. Once he makes it to the real world and earns his own paycheck he can say how much he is worth, until then it sounds like he is just a spoiled little rich kid, either that or just an all around liar. :rolleyes:

You may be right, but I think he is just plain cuckoo.

nawp, i wake up at 7, spend the day in school, go to lacrosse practice at 3:10, get home at 6:00, and finish my homework, (which by that time its dark anyway) im not messin, i really dont have the time.

Ironically the only time i will be able to bike is if my game gets rained out on Sat.

ah, lacrosse.

there is your problem.

How did I miss this one?

What is lacrosse? Field hockey for the girls that didn't look good in the skirts?

I think ProFail and elf232 are the same person.

I think ProFail and elf232 are the same person.

Yes, how similar we are in all mannerisms. I use the word "nawp" and abbreviate half my words.

You've found me out.

bravo....

I still hold to that even disregarding cash on hand. Im a student, Im lucky to have a bike as nice as mine. My mommy didnt help pay for it either. (hah, excluding xmas and that was just parts)

ah, lacrosse.

there is your problem.

I will physically beat you to a pulp if anyone here bangs on lacrosse! Its faster than rugby and football and requires twice as much skill.

I think ProFail and elf232 are the same person.

Nawp, just co-rebels in a fight to free the world of ignorance and correct spelling.

Dude, im busy, i pamper you ppl too much already.

POSER, quit coming up with excuses and lets see some evidence that you actually know how to ride because based on the advice that you've given to people on riding, I bet you could even bunny hop a curb.

I still hold to that even disregarding cash on hand. Im a student, Im lucky to have a bike as nice as mine. My mommy didnt help pay for it either. (hah, excluding xmas and that was just parts)
Not only are you the richest kid, but i would wager that you are the coolest kid in the trailer park too!


I will physically beat you to a pulp if anyone here bangs on lacrosse!
I'd take you up on that...

Its faster than rugby and football and requires twice as much skill.
:roflmao: The ball goes faster, but thats about it!

Nawp, just co-rebels in a fight to free the world of ignorance and correct spelling.

Actually, I prefer that I not be grouped with you.

You are more ignorant than me, and I use correct grammar mechanics.

I will physically beat you to a pulp if anyone here bangs on lacrosse! Its faster than rugby and football and requires twice as much skill.

from what I recall from college, the only cool lacrosse players were the ones who smoked alot of weed. the real serious ones were all asshats. if you are the latter, I suggest taking up cyclocross. you will fit in just perfect.