Mountain Biking - Decide on these two hydro's for me...

Hayes Stroker Trails

or

Track down a pair of the old XT 4 pot calipers and get a set of Saint Levers and goodrich hoses and fittings.

And don't go reccomending me Juicy's ProFail, I have a set right now and I could do without them just fine.

Hayes Stroker Trails are nice they came on my Kona. I find their a real pain to keep from rubbing. After a while though the pads don't return as fast as they should. The lever adjustment is nice and quick and convenient. They stop really good though and their not full on or full off like a lot of hydros. You can slowly pull them to a complete stop or stop real fast. Kinda like v-brakes but with a lot more power.

Hayes Stroker Trails

or

Track down a pair of the old XT 4 pot calipers and get a set of Saint Levers and goodrich hoses and fittings.

And don't go reccomending me Juicy's ProFail, I have a set right now and I could do without them just fine.

Sorry, I've nothing to contribute to your decision, but I was curious. What don't you like about the Juicy's?

Their modulation sucks.

Errr, Formula brakes.

But if I really had to pick one of the two, your XT sounds like a nice cobo/project. I'd opt for that.

No, hayes, whatever you do, For the best price go with LX hydros, I use them and they have more than enough power, the tire goes faster than you could ever need the brake to pull, but if you need to blow cash for some random reason, go with Hope disc brakes, they're the best.

I have a set, sick of them, have to likely put in the 3rd set of pistons and o rings tomorrow.

No, hayes, whatever you do, For the best price go with LX hydros, I use them and they have more than enough power, the tire goes faster than you could ever need the brake to pull, but if you need to blow cash for some random reason, go with Hope disc brakes, they're the best.

Why would I throw on LX brakes on a bike that is all XT/XTR/Gravity Light? I also don't give a damn about price.

I'll be getting formulas.

cough elf shut up cough.

I'm gonna say xt 4 pots. They're ballin.

No, hayes, whatever you do, For the best price go with LX hydros, I use them and they have more than enough power, the tire goes faster than you could ever need the brake to pull, but if you need to blow cash for some random reason, go with Hope disc brakes, they're the best.

Why are Hope 's the best.

Could you explain....." the tire goes faster than you could ever need the brake to pull'.

4 pots with 08 XT levers. Best of both worlds.

4 pots for the win.

Why are Hope 's the best.

Could you explain....." the tire goes faster than you could ever need the brake to pull'.

I couldn't comprehend that either, must be noob language.

4 pots for the win.

DOOOOOD!!! You gots to have teh 6 potz fo teh pr0ness

http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc232/ben_li/HopeM6.jpg

You know what I'm going to say ;)

Reports I've been hearing through my Hayes rep is their top DHers who have been running them love the modulation and are happy with them overall.

And don't go reccomending me Juicy's ProFail
I had to read that twice to make sure there wasn't a company called Juicy that makes brakes called ProFail...

Since when did I start preaching Juicy's? The only time I would recomend Avid is during an Avid vs. Hayes or Avid vs. Shimano question. I'm itching for Magura's myself.

Did I recomend Juicy's to someone?

No recollection at the moment, but I can never tell with you.

Update from my searches, it's looking like the Stroker Trails are going to be the brakeset.

It's almost the same money per brake for a complete Stroker Trail set up as it is for one single XT 4 pot caliper.

No recollection at the moment, but I can never tell with you.

Oh you. :rolleyes:

Oh you. :rolleyes:

Look on the bright side,the elf has taken the heat off of you.

No, hayes, whatever you do, For the best price go with LX hydros, I use them and they have more than enough power, the tire goes faster than you could ever need the brake to pull, but if you need to blow cash for some random reason, go with Hope disc brakes, they're the best.

this has to be pete trying to act stupid right?

classic post

I couldn't comprehend that either, must be noob language.

"goes" as in will give out, tire grip will fail before you have to squeeze harder and no, im not running 5$ tires from wal-mart either.

Why would I throw on LX brakes on a bike that is all XT/XTR/Gravity Light? I also don't give a damn about price.

Who's the noob which thinks quality is all in the name, perhaps you should do some research on your own and find why one brake caliper is better than another. Maybe you should consider giving the pointlessly spent extra 300$ to some kid in Nigeria.

I also don't give a damn about price.

Then Hope should be the final answer.

XT 4 pots are brakes.

BOOM!

Who's the noob which thinks quality is all in the name, perhaps you should do some research on your own and find why one brake caliper is better than another. Maybe you should consider giving the pointlessly spent extra 300$ to some kid in Nigeria.

Maybe you should consider shutting up. I don't want $90 brakes on a $5,000 dollar bike, I selected the XT 4pots and Stroker Trails because they caught my interest not based on price.

Maybe you should consider shutting up. I don't want $90 brakes on a $5,000 dollar bike, I selected the XT 4pots and Stroker Trails because they caught my interest not based on price.

I'm assuming you've looked at Magura, correct?

I'm also assuming you're not a weight weenie, though.

Who's the noob which thinks quality is all in the name, perhaps you should do some research on your own and find why one brake caliper is better than another. Maybe you should consider giving the pointlessly spent extra 300$ to some kid in Nigeria.

Wow, in my time here at BF, I think this is the first time Smashy's ever been called a noob.

Elf, I think you're in over your head. Need I put up the hold-digging picture?

Maybe you should consider shutting up.....

I don't think thats gonna happen.I like watching him make an idiot out of himself.

I don't think thats gonna happen.I like watching him make an idiot out of himself.


Yeah...morons are entertaining.

Who's the noob which thinks quality is all in the name, perhaps you should do some research on your own and find why one brake caliper is better than another. Maybe you should consider giving the pointlessly spent extra 300$ to some kid in Nigeria.

It kinda is. Look at like Lexus versus Saturn cars. People here Lexus and thin high quality, you here Saturn you think not so high quality. Price does depend on quality by the way. XTR cranks are expensive b/c ALOT of testing and material researching had been done to fins what would work best and still be light, and Deore are just steel outboard bearing cranks.
I don't think Smashy is a noob either, but you on the other hand, to me you seem like you are just a smart*** who thinks he knows everything. You're even worse than Profail, Cheeto, and I.

Yeah...morons are entertaining.. . . in a morbid, "let's watch the train wreck" kind of way.

I'm assuming you've looked at Magura, correct?

I'm also assuming you're not a weight weenie, though.

I thought about them, I just don't like the lever feel on them.

I thought about them, I just don't like the lever feel on them.
Fair enough.

I thought about them, I just don't like the lever feel on them.

What do you know, you noob.

Who's the noob which thinks quality is all in the name, perhaps you should do some research on your own and find why one brake caliper is better than another. Maybe you should consider giving the pointlessly spent extra 300$ to some kid in Nigeria.

You just called a moderator of the bikeforums a noob?

Someone who works in a bike shop a noob?

You need to shut up man.

God, that's ignorance at its finest.

It kinda is. Look at like Lexus versus Saturn cars. People here Lexus and thin high quality, you here Saturn you think not so high quality. Price does depend on quality by the way. XTR cranks are expensive b/c ALOT of testing and material researching had been done to fins what would work best and still be light, and Deore are just steel outboard bearing cranks.
I don't think Smashy is a noob either, but you on the other hand, to me you seem like you are just a smart*** who thinks he knows everything. You're even worse than Profail, Cheeto, and I.

You, profail and Cheeto are a lot of fun to have around here. You guys are learning as you go and you take the heat pretty well(profail not as much).I think you guys are for real,meaning you get out and ride some. Don't throw yourself in the heaping pile of dung that is the elf.

You just called a moderator of the bikeforums a noob?

Someone who works in a bike shop a noob?

You need to shut up man.

God, that's ignorance at its finest.

Someone who races and is sponsored a noob?

Someone who wrote most of the stickies on the MTB main page a noob?

ew boy.....:rolleyes: *sigh*


Well then again, Smashy. Maybe he's right. ;) I think he may know more than you do.


Im a little out of the times with hardtails, all iv really looked at in the past year has been for building up my FS, but it weighs in at about 30lbs and is a pain to ride with my buddies who mostly do in between XC and All Mountain riding. So im looking to build up a hardtail that weighs under (or just about) 15lbs. So whats popular right now?

Requirements are, under $900, hardtail, Aluminum, want enough left over for something like XT/X9 componentry.

You, profail and Cheeto are a lot of fun to have around here. You guys are learning as you go and you take the heat pretty well(profail not as much).I think you guys are for real,meaning you get out and ride some. Don't throw yourself in the heaping pile of dung that is the elf.

350 miles a month on average isn't riding "some", but thank you and I am learning a lot. Especially how to argue:rolleyes:

You, profail and Cheeto are a lot of fun to have around here. You guys are learning as you go and you take the heat pretty well(profail not as much)

It was that one girl. :( She was bag of fecal depository.

350 miles a month on average isn't riding "some", but thank you and I am learning a lot. Especially how to argue:rolleyes:

It was a compliment. Take it as such.

350 miles a month on average isn't riding "some", but thank you and I am learning a lot. Especially how to argue:rolleyes:

I don't give a rats behind if you ride 35 or 35000 miles a month. The whole racing,traning,lots of miles thing is no biggie. You can't take the complement can ya. You gotta get your two cents in............

I'm messing with you man. Chill, it's sarcasm.

I don't give a rats behind if you ride 35 or 35000 miles a month. The whole racing,traning,lots of miles thing is no biggie. You can't take the complement can ya. You gotta get your two cents in............

You're compliment was back-handed in my case. ;)

I'm messing with you man. Chill, it's sarcasm.


Chill?????? Really????? It's all fun children. This is kinda like working in a daycare. You'll get it one day. Now go sit down and eat your crackers.

Chill?????? Really????? It's all fun children. This is kinda like working in a daycare. You'll get it one day. Now go sit down and eat your crackers.

Saltine crackers are fairly unhealthy. [/fact]

I don't think thats gonna happen.I like watching him make an idiot out of himself.

Hahaha im having more fun watching everyone flip out over here than you can possibly imagine.

Hahaha im having more fun watching everyone flip out over here than you can possibly imagine.

laemr rebttl

Hahaha im having more fun watching everyone flip out over here than you can possibly imagine.

That was a racial remark. I'm offended.