Foo - Windows Vista.

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Discuss.

you should ride on the right side of the hall.

okee dokee.

is that pic from a school?

he said discuss, not question!:D

trying hard to look like a Mac

he said discuss, not question!:D

ah, i see now...


the op should tell me if that is a school or not.

ah, i see now...


the op should tell me if that is a school or not.

What do you think it is, a fancy prison?...:p

touche! well played sir. To me, it appears to be a school.

If it is a prison, and those locked doors are cells, it is prison for the criminally small.

trying hard to look like a Mac

That's what I thought. I've never used Vista, and probably won't upgrade until I need to get a 64 bit OS, but if I wanted a Mac type interface, I'd buy a Mac. What a rip off...

If it is a prison, and those locked doors are cells, it is prison for the criminally small.

No, it's for the criminally large, there sentence is to be stuff into a small place.

No, it's for the criminally large, there sentence is to be stuff into a small place.

So the place that's a punishment for the criminally small has all the supplies up on a high shelf?

trying hard to look like a Mac

Which costs a fortune, is proprietary, is just as evil, and is essentially a Linux distro which you can get for free :D

So the place that's a punishment for the criminally small has all the supplies up on a high shelf?

only the really good stuff. the crap is stored on the floor, next to the wall.

Which costs a fortune, is proprietary, is just as evil, and is essentially a Linux distro which you can get for free :D

Boom shaka la....

I have Vista on a system I bought recently, and I am not completely disgusted by it.

I see no real advantage over XP, and the system should run a lot faster than my XP with the memory and CPU in that thing, but they seem to perform about the same.

My XP system had 512 MB of ram, and a 3 year old CPU (1.3 ghz???) Pentium with a dual core. The Vista is 1.8 ghz Pentium dual core, 3GB RAM.

There is supposed to be a Service Pack coming out for Vista that will speed it up.

Also, with the latest Office, they have hidden some of the common functions (like Print) so it takes a while to get used to it.

ah, i see now...


the op should tell me if that is a school or not.

Yeah; it's one of the halls of my university.
I was getting back from a race that day.

trying hard to look like a Mac

Barely. Moved the start bar to the top and added a dock on the bottom is a much easier effort than all of the destroying I did while using XP (none of which was worth it).

Which costs a fortune, is proprietary, is just as evil, and is essentially a Linux distro which you can get for free :D

As opposed to your post which is uninformed, ignorant, just as evil as what?, and just shows how ignorant you are.

For the OP: Vista sucks, and even MS thinks so.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/09/business/09digi.html?_r=1&oref=slogin
http://www.news.com/8301-13579_3-9882376-37.html?
read 'em for yourself here: http://i.i.com.com/cnwk.1d/html/pdf/news/131-exhibit-a.pdf

Stay with XP if you are invested in Windows applications.

My mum has it on her laptop (came with it). It really does look and feel like a mac ripoff.

Well, I was really keen on getting a Macbook earlier (when I was doing my co-op and had some money coming in), but I decided to hold off. I upgraded my laptop to 1.5 GB of RAM (originally just for Photoshop work) and installed Vista.

Performance is about the same, but it's so much more pleasant to work with. The effects are not even on the same league as that of Aqua (on OS X), but they are better than XP (read: NONE). Flip-3D is useless, but other programs like Switcher (Expose-like effect) take advantage of Aero to enhance some effects. Having a dock never looked so good before on Windows.

Before talking about rip-offs, keep in mind that Apple did "rip-off" the concept of the Dashboard from Konfabulator...

As opposed to your post which is uninformed, ignorant, just as evil as what?, and just shows how ignorant you are.

For the OP: Vista sucks, and even MS thinks so.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/09/business/09digi.html?_r=1&oref=slogin
http://www.news.com/8301-13579_3-9882376-37.html?
read 'em for yourself here: http://i.i.com.com/cnwk.1d/html/pdf/news/131-exhibit-a.pdf

Stay with XP if you are invested in Windows applications.

Interesting read. Thankfully I didn't get vista. Xp seems good enough, I am not sure where it needs improvement.


OP - great shot. What is that little tool bar you have? Is it useful?

Am I the only one who doesn't care about affects and prettiness? I turned all of that crap off no matter what os I have install.

Am I the only one who doesn't care about affects and prettiness? I turned all of that crap off no matter what os I have install.

Sometimes I like a change more then anything. I flip back and forth between blue and classic windows look.

Sometimes I like a change more then anything. I flip back and forth between blue and classic windows look.

I haven't dived too deep in my copy of vista, but I seriously just want to disable everything, it seems like I can get half way to where I actually want it...

But in truth, I personally don't have problems with it, it doesn't work with half of our software but as a personal OS its dandy...as long as you have the hardware to back it up, its interface with the tablet pc is great too.

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I prefer this. Isn't so bloated that it requires the latest fastest hardware, and gigs of memory. It's fast and lightweight on older systems with only megs of memory (here is proof: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qddueXkD8E). Customization and eye candy comes free with little hassle (Here is a better demo of Compiz Fusion:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ImW0-MgR8I) . It's more secure against virus, spyware, and malware attacks. Includes free software developed by the National Security Agency (Yeah, THAT N. S. A.! See the little badge on top panel?). Requires no disk defrag, and best of all it only cost the price of a blank dvd. All software I use is free of charge (must be priceless).

It's Fedora 8 (Werewolf) with Gnome 2.20.3. Background is a screenshot from Overdrive modified with The GIMP (free image manipulation program) to fit my screen size (also added background). Controls: Darker Ice, window border: Humanoid-OSX-Black, icons: blendedcrystal-2.2, and you can't see it but mouse pointer is binary.rainbow.blue.

By the way. This is just to illustrate my preference (and to show off to other Linux users) not an attempt to evangelize anyone. Please keep using Microsoft based software. I find it comical when I hear about virus/malware paranoia, disk defrag problems, registry problems, DRM issues, the need to throw more money into software for updates and licenses, etc., ad nauseam. :roflmao:

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I prefer this. Isn't so bloated that it requires the latest fastest hardware, and gigs of memory. It's fast and lightweight on older systems with only megs of memory (here is proof: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qddueXkD8E). Customization and eye candy comes free with little hassle (Here is a better demo of Compiz Fusion:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ImW0-MgR8I) . It's more secure against virus, spyware, and malware attacks. Includes free software developed by the National Security Agency (Yeah, THAT N. S. A.! See the little badge on top panel?). Requires no disk defrag, and best of all it only cost the price of a blank dvd. All software I use is free of charge (must be priceless).

It's Fedora 8 (Werewolf) with Gnome 2.20.3. Background is a screenshot from Overdrive modified with The GIMP (free image manipulation program) to fit my screen size (also added background). Controls: Darker Ice, window border: Humanoid-OSX-Black, icons: blendedcrystal-2.2, and you can't see it but mouse pointer is binary.rainbow.blue.

By the way. This is just to illustrate my preference (and to show off to other Linux users) not an attempt to evangelize anyone. Please keep using Microsoft based software. I find it comical when I hear about virus/malware paranoia, disk defrag problems, registry problems, DRM issues, the need to throw more money into software for updates and licenses, etc., ad nauseam. :roflmao:


Can you stream netflix on that computer?

As opposed to your post which is uninformed, ignorant, just as evil as what?, and just shows how ignorant you are.

For the OP: Vista sucks, and even MS thinks so.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/09/business/09digi.html?_r=1&oref=slogin
http://www.news.com/8301-13579_3-9882376-37.html?
read 'em for yourself here: http://i.i.com.com/cnwk.1d/html/pdf/news/131-exhibit-a.pdf

Stay with XP if you are invested in Windows applications.

Gee wiz zac I was just trying to have some fun. Are you ok now? Now go back to studying for your MSDN certs :D

See little green man -> :D <- that's the funny guy - means joke ;)

Gee wiz zac I was just trying to have some fun. Are you ok now? Now go back to studying for your MSDN certs :D

See little green man -> :D <- that's the funny guy - means joke ;)

Ok, sorry. MSDN certs, never is a million years, MS won't be in the OS business to much longer anyway.

I wish OS releases would be more efficient each release, using less memory each time.

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I prefer this. Isn't so bloated that it requires the latest fastest hardware, and gigs of memory. It's fast and lightweight on older systems with only megs of memory (here is proof: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qddueXkD8E). Customization and eye candy comes free with little hassle (Here is a better demo of Compiz Fusion:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ImW0-MgR8I) . It's more secure against virus, spyware, and malware attacks. Includes free software developed by the National Security Agency (Yeah, THAT N. S. A.! See the little badge on top panel?). Requires no disk defrag, and best of all it only cost the price of a blank dvd. All software I use is free of charge (must be priceless).

It's Fedora 8 (Werewolf) with Gnome 2.20.3. Background is a screenshot from Overdrive modified with The GIMP (free image manipulation program) to fit my screen size (also added background). Controls: Darker Ice, window border: Humanoid-OSX-Black, icons: blendedcrystal-2.2, and you can't see it but mouse pointer is binary.rainbow.blue.

By the way. This is just to illustrate my preference (and to show off to other Linux users) not an attempt to evangelize anyone. Please keep using Microsoft based software. I find it comical when I hear about virus/malware paranoia, disk defrag problems, registry problems, DRM issues, the need to throw more money into software for updates and licenses, etc., ad nauseam. :roflmao:

In other news, Ubuntu's major release is scheduled for April 28th. Should be good. I also imagine that PCLinuxOS should be coming out with a 2008 version soon although I personally detest KDE.

I use XP for gaming but I've been slowly ceding more and more of my HD to Ubuntu.

A lot of the major Linux distros upgrade every 6 months. Mostly with tweeks that make them easier to use and configure. I have to admit that that isn't always the case. That's why I switched from Ubuntu back to Fedora last year.

Rob P asks, "Can you stream netflix on that computer?"

Not being a Netflix customer I had to look it up. Netflix says that you need XP with service pack 2, Internet Explorer (even if I had XP that would be a deal breaker) and Windows Media Player (please, even my wife knows that is a lame player, she uses VLC for windows.). I guess I won't be a Netflix customer (at least for streaming) until they upgrade their service. I have streamed lots of other media though. I can play dvds, and I don't miss Netflix.

Oh yeah, another anecdote. I had a computer go down due to bad power supply. Until I could get it fixed I used an old Compaq with an AMD K-6 and 64 megs of ram that had Windows 98 on it (I literally found it in the trash). I replaced windows with Slackware based Absolute Linux and it ran pretty well for such an old machine that someone threw out.

Am I the only one who doesn't care about affects and prettiness? I turned all of that crap off no matter what os I have install.

I think I alternate between this line of thinking and having effects enabled. I like to "work in style."

When it comes to the criticism that Vista is receiving, I'm in the camp that believes that this is part of the recurring cycle of Microsoft releases. Eventually, the operating system will be embraced and will replace XP. A little while longer, it will receive the same preferential treatment when a new release is published by the Borg.

I think, if anything, the criticism will be harsher and a bit longer, since Vista took so long to deliver. I have, however, been testing it since pre-Beta 1 (high school days of Longhorn), and have been somewhat excited for the final release. This isn't a mind-blowing operating system, and almost every software and hardware company out there caters to Microsoft before anyone else, which is a huge advantage.

I'm not praising Microsoft or the operating system; I just don't think that it deserves the treatment it's been getting lately.

Vista with Mac interface sucks in every way. Nice desktop tho.

Recently I bought a Dell XPS M1330 (red - nice hardware as it goes). I dont entirely like Windows, you can tell it's been designed by a committee full of MBAs (I dont have nothing against committees or MBAs, so long as they dont impose anything on me, which they always do - ps: see thread in BF "Mexican fisherman story".

I really wanted a MacBook Pro, but went for Vista coz of dotNet (it's still a stupid name). And now that MS have opened up their APIs....

A lot of the major Linux distros upgrade every 6 months. Mostly with tweeks that make them easier to use and configure. I have to admit that that isn't always the case. That's why I switched from Ubuntu back to Fedora last year.

I still think that despite the major inroads that the Linux community has made in improving the operating system, it has a while to go before it can become a viable competitor to everything out there. The Wal-Mart Linux PC scenario presents an excellent example of this.



Oh yeah, another anecdote. I had a computer go down due to bad power supply. Until I could get it fixed I used an old Compaq with an AMD K-6 and 64 megs of ram that had Windows 98 on it (I literally found it in the trash). I replaced windows with Slackware based Absolute Linux and it ran pretty well for such an old machine that someone threw out.

I threw down Windows 2000 on a Dell Dimension GX1 (233 MHz Pentium I w/ MMX, 64 MB RAM, 6 GB disk), and it performed well for its age. I also installed Windows 2000 on my uncle's work computer (HP Vectra, 400 MHz, 64 MB RAM, 80GB disk) and it ran excellent. He's never had a problem doing any sort of accounting work on it, or anything in general. It really depends on what system it is and how well it's been maintained over the years.

On the other hand, anything with Slackware leaves a HELL of a lot of room for a mean system. If you know what you're doing.

Vista with Mac interface sucks in every way. Nice desktop tho.

Recently I bought a Dell XPS M1330 (red - nice hardware as it goes). I dont entirely like Windows, you can tell it's been designed by a committee full of MBAs (I dont have nothing against committees or MBAs, so long as they dont impose anything on me, which they always do - ps: see thread in BF "Mexican fisherman story".

I really wanted a MacBook Pro, but went for Vista coz of dotNet (it's still a stupid name). And now that MS have opened up their APIs....

Not a Mac interface. I didn't try hard to get all of the Aqua stuff. I took some elements that were useful (dock, Expose) and integrated them. KDE uses a dock too (in a sense), so I guess it's really a cross-applicable GUI element.

Just FYI, ram is cheap right now. One of these weekends I am going to get ambitious, pop open the case to see exactly what I have, and buy a couple more gigs.

Also just fyi, it takes poking around, but you can get a lot of updates many months before the official release at the MS website. I fixed a bunch of stuff that way.

It ain't perfect, but it's better, and for my purposes, there's no alternative.

Interesting read. Thankfully I didn't get vista. Xp seems good enough, I am not sure where it needs improvement.


OP - great shot. What is that little tool bar you have? Is it useful?

Network stack, Finder, active desktop, *much* better wireless support (but then again that came from a new stack), better IPv6 support (it's there I guess), faster HDD reads *and* writes, much better security.

NOt sure if SP3 for XP will give you the above but it's either not out or took some time to come out. Either way, I dont care for XP any more now that I'm using Vista. I *think* OSX is still better and I like the fact that FreeBSD is available for examination (not that I ever will or am skilled enough to check it out, but others, far smarter than I, can eye ball the code).

Which costs a fortune, is proprietary, is just as evil, and is essentially a BSD distro which you can get for free :D

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I prefer this. Isn't so bloated that it requires the latest fastest hardware, and gigs of memory. It's fast and lightweight on older systems with only megs of memory (here is proof: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qddueXkD8E). Customization and eye candy comes free with little hassle (Here is a better demo of Compiz Fusion:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ImW0-MgR8I) . It's more secure against virus, spyware, and malware attacks. Includes free software developed by the National Security Agency (Yeah, THAT N. S. A.! See the little badge on top panel?). Requires no disk defrag, and best of all it only cost the price of a blank dvd. All software I use is free of charge (must be priceless).

It's Fedora 8 (Werewolf) with Gnome 2.20.3. Background is a screenshot from Overdrive modified with The GIMP (free image manipulation program) to fit my screen size (also added background). Controls: Darker Ice, window border: Humanoid-OSX-Black, icons: blendedcrystal-2.2, and you can't see it but mouse pointer is binary.rainbow.blue.

By the way. This is just to illustrate my preference (and to show off to other Linux users) not an attempt to evangelize anyone. Please keep using Microsoft based software. I find it comical when I hear about virus/malware paranoia, disk defrag problems, registry problems, DRM issues, the need to throw more money into software for updates and licenses, etc., ad nauseam. :roflmao:

Hi, let me start off by saying I AM NOT DISHING ON LINUX, in fact I'd love to have it on my desktop and laptop but for the following reasons:
I need to learn a new OS, and all it's peculiarties. I certainly dont want it on my laptop due to lack battery management. The desktop has only just started to support multiple monitors (if I remember the text I read correctly - obviously correct me if need to). Also Apple have removed support for iTunes on Linux. Sure there are workarounds (meaning spend extra time finding these solutions, time that I would rather spend with friends).
Wrt DRM, yeah there are solutions on Windows to get around that. I haven't felt the need to use VLC yet, but I know it's there if I want it. AND IT'S FREE. In fact there are many programs on Windows that are free: OpenOffice, well anyway, you know the score, there's loads.
Virus and malware - yup granted, I hate it. But if you're sitting behind a router, who cares? I have a laptop that's been running fine for 3 years, Windows XP, SP2, WITH NO WINDOWS UPDATES, and it's never had a virus. In fact I went to an online virus checker just to be sure, and nothing was found.
My current laptop has AV software, I may remove it, but I need to find out more about public wireless hotspots before doing so. I hate that AV software eats into my CPU cycles, though there are versions of AV that have a pretty small footprint. AND THEY ARE FREE.
Free software is not only the domain of Linux. Granted, it probably came from the community that now uses Linux, but in any case, it's now available for Windows.

I did have plans to install Linux, but everything I need runs on Windows (Photoshop, Premiere, iTunes, dotNet and a pretty much and langauge + IDE, games (I know play a few, various monitor software, good battery management, multiple monitor support and great graphics and sound support (I dont know if Linux is good at that, or if that suport has only come out, but it;s just what I read last year).

I love the fact that Linux + Compiz (they joined forces with Beryl, right?) runs on such a small footprint on such an old computer. I also love the whole aura behind Linux and free + open source software. I however dont believe all software should be free, it should be a choice whether one wants to sell the software for free or not, and/or give the support free or not.

The desktop has only just started to support multiple monitors

Ah... I am pretty sure multiple monitors have been supported for like 10 years.

Looks like quite a few applications and processes are running.

i don't mind vista too much, I do hate the new thing they done with the sound though you can only use 1 device at a time which sucks if you have 2 sound cards. xp has no prolems with that .. MAC os I don't care for .. not alot of free software available that I've noticed. I tried switching my laptop to ubuntu linux based OS, but I can't get either if my wireless cards to work... the device drivers for windows are the main selling point, mostly because PCs are designed for it from the get go.

the company I work for is rolling out vista imaged machines, I say it will catch on. everyone hated XP for a while too.

I'm normally not an effects guy but I do like working on the cube.

All this talk is making me want to install a new distro on my other partition.

I'm normally not an effects guy but I do like working on the cube.

All this talk is making me want to install a new distro on my other partition.

The cube is a perfect combination of affect and usefulness. I agree, its something I use when I use *nix.

fades, widget, nuggets, colours, backgrounds, themes etc...all useless.