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dekindy
03-13-08, 12:03 PM
I had a VO2 max test performed at the National Institute For Fitness and Sports located here in Indianapolis. It was done on the bike.

My Anabolic Threshold was at a heartrate of 125 beats per minute and VO2 (ml/min) was 1678 and VO2 (ml/kg/min) was 17. Max nunbers were 162/3062/32 respectively.

Max heart rate was 162.

Anabolic Threshold was at 77% of max heart rate and 55% of VO2 max.

These results put me in the upper 75% of the average range for a 49-year old. High, good, average, fair, and poor were the five categories.

The resistance was increased in 25 watt increments and my instructions were to keep increasing the resistance as long as I thought I could go for at least one minute at the next highest level. I maxed at 275 watts ad might have been able to sustain one level higher but did not try since I was not sure. The wattage and heart rate numbers were very close to what I had recorded on my Kurt Kinetic trainer.

I do not race nor do I intend to. I am a recreational cyclist wanting to get better so I can ride hills and centuries more confidently and comfortably.

Can I use these heart rate numbers to train on the road? What would be the best range for me to train in on a flat 30-mile training ride? See fat burning question below?

How much would losing 20 pounds change my numbers. I currently weigh 207 lbs. Is this my best shot at improvement since I have seemed to be average or below athletically all my life?

My maximum fat burning zone was at 115-120 beats per minute. I was surprised at how narrow a range that significant fat was burned. Would this be a good range for me to trade in for conditioning and maximum fat loss? Would training in this range significantly hamper my effort to improve conditioning?

Is there any reason for me to get tested again after riding and training during the summer and hopefully losing weight?

FatguyRacer
03-13-08, 01:58 PM
Is there any reason for me to get tested again after riding and training during the summer and hopefully losing weight?


Yes. with your AT at 77% max, your slightly above untrained. You'll make huge gains with the right training. You'll increase you VO2 a slight bit with weight loss. 17 seems kinda low. Were you a life long 2pack a day smoker? The biggest gains will be made shifting you AT closer to your max HR. A good training regime can get your AT to within 93% of Max HR. But since you dont plan on racing, its not necessary to push it that far. But it will help for climbing.

I'm surpirsed the testing center didnt recommend a training protocol for you. Seems like you wasted your money if all they did was hand you a packet of numbers and no explaination as how to progress from there.

What is better than getting your heart rate up and saddle time?

Nothing. No substitute for hard work. There are no short cuts, you have to put the time in to get better. You will be rewarded for your efforts.

N71
03-13-08, 03:02 PM
Did they mention anything about your max heart rate? 162 seems low. Not trying to freak you out (I actually raced with a guy who had a larger than normal heart and a correspondenly low max. He's now a Cat 1) but the old 220 minus age puts you higher.

Az B
03-13-08, 03:08 PM
Did they mention anything about your max heart rate? 162 seems low. Not trying to freak you out (I actually raced with a guy who had a larger than normal heart and a correspondenly low max. He's now a Cat 1) but the old 220 minus age puts you higher.

That equation is pretty useless. I'm older than the OP and my max is 192. Obviously, the range of differences in human anatomy are greater than that simple equation can account for.

Az

N71
03-13-08, 03:47 PM
That equation is pretty useless. I'm older than the OP and my max is 192. Obviously, the range of differences in human anatomy are greater than that simple equation can account for.

Az

Oh, I agree about the equation it doesn't work for me either but I thought they might have made mention of it since it was part of a comprehensive testing procedure. I can't go up a flight of stairs without hitting 150!

dekindy
03-14-08, 06:50 AM
No, never smoked anything.

I have always had a low resting heart rate. In college it was in the high 40's and is still in the high 50's/low 60's. Whenever I have done a fitness test my heart rate returns to normal at a very fast rate. Yet my stamina has always been below average.

When I auditioned for grade school band I did not have enough wind to play a brass instrument so I was advised to play a woodwind instrument. Once in college when my buddy who was a trumpet player and a fairly good athlete each did the test where you blow into a vertical tube to raise the level, he was able to do twice or more the amount that I could. So with all these factors I am trying to determine what my limitation is and a reasonable goal that I might set for myself.

I rode the 162 mile ride across Indiana last summer, did a couple of flat centuries, and rode 4,400 total miles for the year. I was able to increase my average speed on a flat 30-mile training ride from 16.5 to the high 18's/low 19's and hit a 20 mph average once in a burst of fitness increase from doing the ride across Indiana, then returned to the 18/19 range.

They suggested that I do interval work to increase my conditioning. This winter I have been using a Kurt Kinetic Road Trainer and doing some upper body weight lifting which seems to have helped my overall strength and conditioning.

I don't really want to go to the expense of a coach but can't help but wonder if some professional, personal guidance might not be a bad idea. Most of the people that I ride with are stronger than me, despite my improvements, and I want to feel confident that when I go out with them I am not going to hold them up or run out of gas. One thing that does seem to be helping is using Hammer Nutrition gel and perpetuem while I am riding to keep my energy levels up.

buddy
03-14-08, 12:17 PM
I had a VO2 max test performed at the National Institute For Fitness and Sports located here in Indianapolis. It was done on the bike.

My Anabolic Threshold was at a heartrate of 125 beats per minute and VO2 (ml/min) was 1678 and VO2 (ml/kg/min) was 17. Max nunbers were 162/3062/32 respectively.

Max heart rate was 162.

Anabolic Threshold was at 77% of max heart rate and 55% of VO2 max.

These results put me in the upper 75% of the average range for a 49-year old. High, good, average, fair, and poor were the five categories.

The resistance was increased in 25 watt increments and my instructions were to keep increasing the resistance as long as I thought I could go for at least one minute at the next highest level. I maxed at 275 watts ad might have been able to sustain one level higher but did not try since I was not sure. The wattage and heart rate numbers were very close to what I had recorded on my Kurt Kinetic trainer.

I do not race nor do I intend to. I am a recreational cyclist wanting to get better so I can ride hills and centuries more confidently and comfortably.

Can I use these heart rate numbers to train on the road? What would be the best range for me to train in on a flat 30-mile training ride? See fat burning question below?

How much would losing 20 pounds change my numbers. I currently weigh 207 lbs. Is this my best shot at improvement since I have seemed to be average or below athletically all my life?

My maximum fat burning zone was at 115-120 beats per minute. I was surprised at how narrow a range that significant fat was burned. Would this be a good range for me to trade in for conditioning and maximum fat loss? Would training in this range significantly hamper my effort to improve conditioning?

Is there any reason for me to get tested again after riding and training during the summer and hopefully losing weight?

I would like to be tested like this. How do you find a client that does this kind of testing?

~buddy

dekindy
03-14-08, 12:46 PM
I would like to be tested like this. How do you find a client that does this kind of testing?

~buddy

Google searches. Links on bicycle club websites. Asking participants on this forum.

umd
03-14-08, 03:03 PM
I'm getting a V02 test done tomorrow. Should be interesting...

umd
03-15-08, 05:21 PM
I took the OP and changed the numbers for my test...

My Anabolic Threshold was at a heartrate of 162 beats per minute and VO2 (ml/min) was 3600 and VO2 (ml/kg/min) was 53. Max nunbers were 181/4340/66 respectively.

The resistance was increased in 25 watt increments and my instructions were to keep increasing the resistance as long as I thought I could go for at least one minute at the next highest level. I maxed at 400 watts and may have been able to continue at the next level for a few seconds but not much more. These results put me in the "superior" fitness range.

I also did an RMR test, my avg VO2 was 249, my VCO2 was 238, and my resting caloric expenditure was 1714.

dekindy
03-16-08, 07:02 AM
I took the OP and changed the numbers for my test...

My Anabolic Threshold was at a heartrate of 162 beats per minute and VO2 (ml/min) was 3600 and VO2 (ml/kg/min) was 53. Max nunbers were 181/4340/66 respectively.

The resistance was increased in 25 watt increments and my instructions were to keep increasing the resistance as long as I thought I could go for at least one minute at the next highest level. I maxed at 400 watts and may have been able to continue at the next level for a few seconds but not much more. These results put me in the "superior" fitness range.

I also did an RMR test, my avg VO2 was 249, my VCO2 was 238, and my resting caloric expenditure was 1714.

I received a 6-page report labeled ACTIVE METABOLIC TRAINING PERFORMANCE provided by New Leaf - Real Results. True Health. Was yours the same or different?

What is an RMR test? How old are you?

umd
03-16-08, 08:55 AM
I received a 6-page report labeled ACTIVE METABOLIC TRAINING PERFORMANCE provided by New Leaf - Real Results. True Health. Was yours the same or different?

What is an RMR test? How old are you?

Mine was different. An RMR test is resting metabolic rate. Similar test as to find the basal metabolic rate, except for that you had to be fasting for 12 hours and for this I was supposed eat approx 250 calories two hours before the test. The idea is to find the your body's RQ while not being active and not having just eaten, but not in as strict conditions as the BMR.