Indirect Advocacy and possible profit.
03-14-08 | 04:42 PM
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Indirect Advocacy and possible profit.
The Living-Car-Free forum people might be the most receptive to the following idea (NB. it's an idea at this stage, so please don't get your knickers in a twist) but I see it as a form of indirect advocacy, so here it is.
Making life easier for cycling to some extent is about making the roads safer and one way to do this is to reduce the number of vehicles or vehicle-miles.
There are a large number of groups (mostly environmental) that would like to see enormous reductions in personal use of vehicles, and surely cycling groups must be included, so this idea should be thought to include all those that might be interested.
Oil hit a new record high of $111 (Friday March 14, 08) every time it goes up, the cost of a gallon of gasoline also goes up (eventually, if the rise is long lived). If you believe in peak-oil theory and that the world is approaching or on the plateau of peak-oil, then investing in oil is a pretty safe bet. Many industry insiders see no reason that oil can't go to $125 in the near future (few months) and $300 a barrel in the longer term future (that is the effective price per barrel at the pump in the UK and much of Europe already). If a large group, or collection of groups, pooled a portion of the money they want invested and invested in oil, there would be at minimum a subtle increase in the price of oil at the pump. Advocacy and profit.
If you have any substantial pension, savings or investments and those are US dollar based, you need to seriously ask yourself if you have been following the collapse of the dollar and what measures you should take to protect yourself. Hint: follow the market and move to gold, oil, other commodities, and/or other currencies.
Any thoughts?
Making life easier for cycling to some extent is about making the roads safer and one way to do this is to reduce the number of vehicles or vehicle-miles.
There are a large number of groups (mostly environmental) that would like to see enormous reductions in personal use of vehicles, and surely cycling groups must be included, so this idea should be thought to include all those that might be interested.
Oil hit a new record high of $111 (Friday March 14, 08) every time it goes up, the cost of a gallon of gasoline also goes up (eventually, if the rise is long lived). If you believe in peak-oil theory and that the world is approaching or on the plateau of peak-oil, then investing in oil is a pretty safe bet. Many industry insiders see no reason that oil can't go to $125 in the near future (few months) and $300 a barrel in the longer term future (that is the effective price per barrel at the pump in the UK and much of Europe already). If a large group, or collection of groups, pooled a portion of the money they want invested and invested in oil, there would be at minimum a subtle increase in the price of oil at the pump. Advocacy and profit.
If you have any substantial pension, savings or investments and those are US dollar based, you need to seriously ask yourself if you have been following the collapse of the dollar and what measures you should take to protect yourself. Hint: follow the market and move to gold, oil, other commodities, and/or other currencies.
Any thoughts?
03-15-08 | 11:03 AM
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We need to get more bikes on the road. I fear it is too late though, and as oil rises in price, so too will the price of gasoline . I heard today that one gas station in Nevada is charging $5.20 a gallon.
I say it's too late for those people who never got on a bicycle, or gave up bicycling at 16 years of age, in favor of the car. I say it's too late for them, because they let their legs atrophy. They should've stayed in shape so they could ride a bike.
Today, I am riding my Electric Bike. I was keeping it inside for the Winter, but today it's 50 degrees.
It might be my imagination, but I think there are less cars on the road, and I think it's because the price of gas at the local pumps is $3.39 a gallon.
I'm tired of being treated like a second-class citizen because I ride a bicycle. It makes me want to pound on someone's head with a hammer. I have a car! What gives people the idea that cyclists don't have cars? I use my car for grocery shopping, and going to the laundromat where there is a load to carry.
As for investments, I have some silver coins in my coin collection, which I bought when silver was $3.85 an ounce. Yesterday, silver was at $20.60 an ounce. But I didn't have to sell them to get money to get gas, because I rode my Electric Bicycle.
I say it's too late for those people who never got on a bicycle, or gave up bicycling at 16 years of age, in favor of the car. I say it's too late for them, because they let their legs atrophy. They should've stayed in shape so they could ride a bike.
Today, I am riding my Electric Bike. I was keeping it inside for the Winter, but today it's 50 degrees.
It might be my imagination, but I think there are less cars on the road, and I think it's because the price of gas at the local pumps is $3.39 a gallon.
I'm tired of being treated like a second-class citizen because I ride a bicycle. It makes me want to pound on someone's head with a hammer. I have a car! What gives people the idea that cyclists don't have cars? I use my car for grocery shopping, and going to the laundromat where there is a load to carry.
As for investments, I have some silver coins in my coin collection, which I bought when silver was $3.85 an ounce. Yesterday, silver was at $20.60 an ounce. But I didn't have to sell them to get money to get gas, because I rode my Electric Bicycle.
