Singlespeed & Fixed Gear - Are these dropouts really THAT bad?

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jorgetheboinker
03-14-08, 07:29 PM
When I took this frame to the LBS to see what parts i could snag for it cheap he ended up inspecting it and saying that on top of not having a fork for it (and acting like a 27" fork was going to be the hardest thing in the world to find... which 2 seconds of google and 3 seconds of alfred e bike disproved) the dropouts were going to fall off and kill innocent children and kittens. i realize they're not top notch and it's a pretty ****ty frame... but come on...


maybe it's just the eternal optimist in me that says this bike is going to be awesome?



http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/6306/dropsgv3.jpg



(vvvv before)

http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/1641/bike2kx4.th.jpg (http://img178.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bike2kx4.jpg)



also, there's tons of clearance with the wheels on, so i coulda just gotten a threadless 700c fork like my first friend had suggested instead of having to bother with a threaded 27" :(


huerro
03-14-08, 07:48 PM
It's not that they're dangerous, just that they're indicative of a low quality frame.

Have you bought the fork yet? If not, you can probably find a much better frame and fork for the same money (however much it is).

jorgetheboinker
03-14-08, 07:54 PM
frame was free. fork was 20 bucks.


ianjk
03-14-08, 08:24 PM
I've ridden worse. No need to worry ;)

huerro
03-14-08, 09:34 PM
frame was free. fork was 20 bucks.

I stand by my comment ;), but enjoy the ride (and that's not snark, if you love it, ride the hell out of it).

roughrider504
03-14-08, 10:37 PM
Well they haven't fallen out yet, why would they.

Kitties everywhere may rejoice.

kemmer
03-14-08, 11:44 PM
Meh, it's pretty ****ty but it'll do. What kind of cranks did it have?

v1k1ng1001
03-15-08, 12:05 AM
I hope you have dental insurance

Flint Lock
03-15-08, 12:16 AM
Lisa needs braces.

anomaly
03-15-08, 07:06 AM
You would have been better off saving the cost of the paint and the $20 for a fork (which might not be the right threading) and the bottom bracket conversion cup since that bike came with a one piece crank and putting that towards another frame. That being said, it's done, so good luck!

barba
03-15-08, 07:20 AM
You usually see the "crimped" stay/dropout connection on fairly low end frames (Huffy, for instance). They will probably hold fine if you don't plan on doing crazy tricks and jumps. I would actually be a little concerned with some of the rust in the original picture. I can't tell if it is just surface corrosion or not. Any rattle when you shake it?

carail
03-15-08, 07:58 AM
nice paint job

j0e_bik3
03-15-08, 09:30 AM
When I took this frame to the LBS to see what parts i could snag for it cheap he ended up inspecting it and saying that on top of not having a fork for it (and acting like a 27" fork was going to be the hardest thing in the world to find... which 2 seconds of google and 3 seconds of alfred e bike disproved) the dropouts were going to fall off and kill innocent children and kittens. i realize they're not top notch and it's a pretty ****ty frame... but come on...


maybe it's just the eternal optimist in me that says this bike is going to be awesome?



http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/6306/dropsgv3.jpg



(vvvv before)

http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/1641/bike2kx4.th.jpg (http://img178.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bike2kx4.jpg)



also, there's tons of clearance with the wheels on, so i coulda just gotten a threadless 700c fork like my first friend had suggested instead of having to bother with a threaded 27" :(

are those even brazed? they look like they were GLUED! :eek:

still I (like the others) have ridden the frickin CRAP out of much worse looking setups (my old BMX park bike had drops like those :eek: )

I too think all the kittens of the world can rest easy :D

j0e_bik3
03-15-08, 09:31 AM
When I took this frame to the LBS to see what parts i could snag for it cheap he ended up inspecting it and saying that on top of not having a fork for it (and acting like a 27" fork was going to be the hardest thing in the world to find... which 2 seconds of google and 3 seconds of alfred e bike disproved) the dropouts were going to fall off and kill innocent children and kittens. i realize they're not top notch and it's a pretty ****ty frame... but come on...


maybe it's just the eternal optimist in me that says this bike is going to be awesome?

are those even brazed? they look like they were GLUED! :eek:

still I (like the others) have ridden the frickin CRAP out of much worse looking setups (my old BMX park bike had drops like those :eek: )

I too think all the kittens of the world can rest easy :D

"hey! this is not suck!"

AHemp
03-15-08, 02:54 PM
The lugs would worry me more than the dropouts.

jet sanchEz
03-15-08, 02:59 PM
Put it this way....without a brake, a lot of pressure is going to be put on those drops. Do they look like they can withstand a lot of pressure? To me and to your mechanic, no, they don't. Ride it but do everyone a favour and run a brake.

loser
03-15-08, 03:11 PM
seriously, i used to worry about drop outs for conversion. We were always looking for the strongest ones but have you ever heard of anyone bending a dropout so bad that they fallen? It's a 70era bike, there is a reason why they are still there. Buts thats only from what I have test/seen so far.

edit after reading jet sanchez's post: yeah well makes sense if you keep in mind that this bike has never been riden fixed before.... anyway, I wouldn't change the frame because of that

barba
03-15-08, 05:06 PM
Put it this way....without a brake, a lot of pressure is going to be put on those drops. Do they look like they can withstand a lot of pressure? To me and to your mechanic, no, they don't. Ride it but do everyone a favour and run a brake.


Just out of curiosity, what would make the force exerted on the dropouts by a skid different than locking the rear wheel using a hand brake?

ianjk
03-15-08, 05:46 PM
seriously, i used to worry about drop outs for conversion. We were always looking for the strongest ones but have you ever heard of anyone bending a dropout so bad that they fallen?

The only time I have bent a dropout was on a Chicago Schwinn, when my axle failed and bent like 15 degrees at the bearings, while cranking up a hill.

jlin
03-16-08, 12:43 PM
you're fine. build it up and enjoy it. bad drop-outs don't kill kittens. ************ does.

griffin_
03-16-08, 12:49 PM
dudes at lbs's are a ssholes
don't pay them any mind